Yet another 'Building a new computer' thread! Yay!

[007.SirBond]

He is on budget SirBond. And if you haven't noticed, PRO version costs a bit more than standard V. You obviously have went not budget way. 3770K and 3570K has cost difference as well.

And about 3D - AMD and Nvidia is using two different technologies. AMD - letting 3rd party people do 3D stuff and Nvidia is producing gear for them self and with guarantee that thing will work. Its hard choice - either AMD or Nvidia.

And if your monitor has 3D built in, its hard to tell. Because it heavily depends on it. Also for 3D - 7790 might be too weak and will have to be replaced soon.

And the question about is Nvidia better over AMD and vise versa - there is no answer. Either you are Nvidia or AMD guy or you pick one. Everything depends on your personal experience with both of them.

The one I am using is the first one I've built. I'm still learning. Not sure if ibought the right stuff or put the motherboard properly together.

[Cossack]

Well, if everything works without any major issues, I guess everything is fine. Like if you would put your CPU in LGA 1156 (its older) not 1155, you would notice that your CPU is dead or mobo is dead.

With PC building look at specifications of your components - can they be connected together? And if you use force to plug something in then obviously something is not right.

Only thing you might go wrong with is Super expensive parts put together with cheap parts. Like for example i7 3770K on MSI Z77-GD43 or ASUS P8Z77 LX or cheap Gigabyte board it will do the job, but it will not be able to push maximum from it self. If you try OC on those boards, they will just melt down.

Or another example super duper expensive GPU but rest is cheap - your GPU is bottlenecked.

I could continue all day, but I guess you got the point.

[007.SirBond]

Well, if everything works without any major issues, I guess everything is fine. Like if you would put your CPU in LGA 1156 (its older) not 1155, you would notice that your CPU is dead or mobo is dead.

With PC building look at specifications of your components - can they be connected together? And if you use force to plug something in then obviously something is not right.

Only thing you might go wrong with is Super expensive parts put together with cheap parts. Like for example i7 3770K on MSI Z77-GD43 or ASUS P8Z77 LX or cheap Gigabyte board it will do the job, but it will not be able to push maximum from it self. If you try OC on those boards, they will just melt down.

Or another example super duper expensive GPU but rest is cheap - your GPU is bottlenecked.

I could continue all day, but I guess you got the point.

One more question, I used sata 6gbs cables instead of sata 3gbs cables to connect my hdds and cd/dvd/blu ray drive to the motherboard. I only did it cuz I thought it wud be better. Am I right? What is the benefit?

[Cossack]

There is difference according to this: http://www.serialata.org/documents/SATA-6-Gbs-The-Path-from-3gbs-to-6gbs.pdf. But mainly its all about device and interface. Benefit: they saying SATA 3Gb/s cable would reach its edge and would become bottleneck between device and interface, but to feel it in real world scenario is really hard.

[MrTomRobs]

OP updated with new gear. New additions include the case, PSU and a new CD/DVD reader/writer, so let me know what you think!

Going back to the graphics cards, can anyone give me a bit more info about the difference between the GTX660 and the GTX660 Ti? I've read up a little bit and it's apparently 20% faster in certain circumstances, but is it worth the extra 60 quid?

On another note, i've started to build my fund up again now, apparently Santa (not STANTA as i nearly put) thinks i've been a good boy this year, so that's an extra 100 quid straight off the bat.

[Cossack]

Yes, it is. Ti version uses same 680 and 670 GPU, but the bus is cut to 192 bits. Totally worth it. Simple 660 is using lower end GPU

[MrTomRobs]

Many thanks! Just had a look at the 670 after that commend and it's an extra hundred quid above the 660Ti, so the 660Ti shall be my new weapon of choice. OP updated!

[Daniel]

Yes, it is. Ti version uses same 680 and 670 GPU, but the bus is cut to 192 bits. Totally worth it. Simple 660 is using lower end GPU

Source? How do you know that?

[Cossack]

Source? How do you know that?

Here you go: GeForce 600 Series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

All three use GK104 processor

[Daniel]

Here you go: GeForce 600 Series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

All three use GK104 processor

Nice find!

[MrTomRobs]

Greetings again forum dwellers! I'm still trying to fund my PC and things are still coming along, but it'll definitely be another 4 (at least!) months before i get enough to get all this kit.

However, I'm now about to move onto a discussion for the OS. I can get an OEM version of Windows 7 Professional for about 60 quid, and Windows 8 (can't remember which version) for about 80. My question would be this: In terms of performance and compatibility, is it worth me getting windows 8? I doubt i'll be getting myself a touch screen, because i might absolutely boss it and hook up my beast to my 37inch TV for those absolutely monster gaming sessions, and the rest of the time i'll probs just hook up my 19inch Syncmaster (old, yes, but it works for the time being).

Are the new features and running methods in 8 better than 7? will it reduce my power consumption from being allegedly more efficient? Will it really give me a 10 inch penis?

Joking about that last one...

[Doc.Pock]

Are the new features and running methods in 8 better than 7?

will it reduce my power consumption from being allegedly more efficient?

Will it really give me a 10 inch penis?

Yes, if on touchscreen. (subjective, personal expirience)

Not noticably.

No. If i remember correctly size of your penis is inversly proportional to the amount of windows you have. so I'd go with 7.

[MrTomRobs]

Doc.Pock;1864918']Yes, if on touchscreen. (subjective, personal expirience)

Not noticably.

No. If i remember correctly size of your penis is inversly proportional to the amount of windows you have. so I'd go with 7.

Well i'm still in 2 minds about whether or not i'll end up getting a touchscreen down the line, so i may possibly get it simply for the improved touchscreen interface.

How about intensiveness? Is it more/less/as-close-as-makes-no-difference intensive on RAM and processor as 7? That's really the key point i meant to ask about, kinda forgot to put it in the post...

[Doc.Pock]

its quite the same on ram and with newer systems it doesnt matter at all

edit: with 8GB u wont even notice the 500MB that they use

[MrTomRobs]

Doc.Pock;1864935']its quite the same on ram and with newer systems it doesnt matter at all

edit: with 8GB u wont even notice the 500MB that they use

Cool. Well it's a bit to go before i'm able to get the funds, but i think Windows 8 may just squeeze it because i'm an elitist whore and newer obviously equals better and because i pay more i'm so uber awesome and hardcore...




But also because there's only ?10 difference on OEM versions of 7 and 8

[Doc.Pock]

i mean you can get them cheaper too...
and dual boot is awesome

[MrTomRobs]

OK then you lovely people! I've been saving up furiously over the past 4 months and the time has now come to finally thin about placing my orders for parts. But, seeing as it might be a good idea to, i figured i'd run it by you lot first, see what you think, check if I've forgotten anything and ask another question which i shall save for the end.

So here're my final specs:
Case
Corsair Carbide 300R (?59.98GBP)

PSU
Corsair Builder series CXM 600W Modular 80+ Bronze (?59.45GBP)

Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-V (?128.87GBP)

CPU
Intel i5-3570k (?172.53GBP)

Ram
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4GB Sticks) DDR3 @ 1600MHz (?104.99GBP)

GFX Card
Asus NVidia GeForce GTX 660 Ti (?198.30GBP)

HDD
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB (?65.00GBP)

Optical Drive
Asus DRW-24B5ST 24x DVD (?18.99GBP)

OS
Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit OEM edition (?49GBP)

Overall, I've totalled my system up to a grand total of ?853.11GBP by the use of some offers where you buy multiple items in the same transaction using Amazon. The particular deal I will use will be to purchase the HDD, CPU and DVD in one, and add the separate ones into the basket by themselves. Obviously if it comes out the checkout any cheaper, I shall let you know.

I'd like to see what you guys think, see if it'll hold its own and survive the coming onslaught for games that shall soon befall it, but I'd also like to check and see if anyone reckons i can get things any cheaper from other sources.

Cheers for all of your help so far guys, just a little more and I'll be able to get things on the road.

[LITOralis.nMd]

That is a very decent system,
I would suggest just five additions, none of which you need immediately.
1. an aftermarket CPU cooler. The cheap and very effective cooler master hyper 212 evo
1a. An additional PWM 120mm fan for the 212 Evo,
1b. a PWM splitter
Then do this:
https://www.google.com/search?q=cooler+ ... 20&bih=964

2. Some thermal paste/compound to put the cooler onto the cpu
3. An additional exhaust fan for the top.

The parts list will run fine right now, the stuff I added is the easy and cheap route to overclock the CPU and keep the inner case cooled. Your selected GPU pushes hot air inside the case, as compared to outside, you want to get that hot air out of the case if you also oveclock the CPU.

[MrTomRobs]

That's an absolute top reply, thank you very much! I've added them to the wish list and it shall only be a short matter of time before i chuck on the order. Just need to get myself a credit card

Regarding the additional exhaust fan, any recommendations? The only thing i'm not sure about is whether or not the case will be able to hold another one?

I really can't wait to get started on it

[Daniel]

660 Ti is decent, though you might think of getting the next gen 760 GTX... (About same price)
And why not get new Haswell next gen CPU (i5 4xxx) ?
An i5 4670K for same price and more performance!!! (Though other MoBo requirered then ofc... Z87 instead of Z77 it would be then...)