Rifleman Ammo

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Takeda
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Rifleman Ammo

Post by Takeda »

Hello,

I think that ammopack from riffleman should be fixed in some way. As we now 1 pack is enough to reload HaT and LaT, but its not enough to reload 1 field dressing, same with c4.
Pack is just dissapearing. Imho it should be posible to reload 1-2 fields until it will break, or 1 c4.


Thing with field dres happend to me few times, i always was full (without fielddress) and there was nobody in radious of 50m.


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Re: Riffleman Ammo

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One pack sometimes isn't enough to rearm a HAT either(not sure about LAT), it's pretty weird.
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Re: Riffleman Ammo

Post by Moszeusz6Pl »

It depends how many weapons have you used. It's alway able to resupply HAT, but if it's resupplying rifle ammo, grenades and field dressings at the same time, there might be not enough ammo left for HAT. If you want to resupply weapon with only one ammo, make sure that there is nobody staying next to bag, cause he can prevent you from resupplying.

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Re: Riffleman Ammo

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yeah, doesn't the ammo kit first resupply your magazines, then grenades and then to the bottom things? That's how I thought it worked.
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MineralWouter wrote:yeah, doesn't the ammo kit first resupply your magazines, then grenades and then to the bottom things? That's how I thought it worked.
Yep, it's going from the top to the bottom.
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Re: Riffleman Ammo

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MineralWouter wrote:yeah, doesn't the ammo kit first resupply your magazines, then grenades and then to the bottom things? That's how I thought it worked.
But i was full. I have used only field after spawn, and then i thrown my ammo bag to resupply that dress, but it dissapeard in a few secs.
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Re: Riffleman Ammo

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Takeda wrote:But i was full. I have used only field after spawn, and then i thrown my ammo bag to resupply that dress, but it dissapeard in a few secs.
Because you were rearming your field dressing + ammo bag. It doesn't work like from top to bottom, ammo bags just reload everything in the same time. And 1 ammo bag is not enough to resupply 2 empty slot.
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Re: Riffleman Ammo

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Fandango wrote:Because you were rearming your field dressing + ammo bag. It doesn't work like from top to bottom, ammo bags just reload everything in the same time. And 1 ammo bag is not enough to resupply 2 empty slot.
So its not ok when ammobag resupplay ammobag, it should be fixed, coz its not logical.
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Re: Riffleman Ammo

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Frontliner wrote:One pack sometimes isn't enough to rearm a HAT either(not sure about LAT), it's pretty weird.
You can rearm your HAT from one ammo bag if you only used up the rocket. If you reloaded your firearm, used the field dressing etc. you won't rearm the HAT.
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Re: Riffleman Ammo

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Takeda wrote:So its not ok when ammobag resupplay ammobag, it should be fixed, coz its not logical.
No. You can resupply your ammo bag from 1 ammo bag, but make sure you are not resuplying anything else, except 2-3 clips for your rifle. When you throw your ammo bag, it creates an empty slot in your inventory.

Ammo bag is like ammuniton pool, let's say there is 100 points in it. 1 empty slot in your inventory costs approximately 60 points, doesn't matter if it is a HAT, LAT, ammo bag or field dressing. Important part is the count of what you resupply in inventory, not the type.
Souls Of Mischief wrote:You can rearm your HAT from one ammo bag if you only used up the rocket. If you reloaded your firearm, used the field dressing etc. you won't rearm the HAT.
This is wrong as well.
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Re: Riffleman Ammo

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Fandango wrote: This is wrong as well.
Wasn't in 0.98. Are you playing 1.0? HUR DUR
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Re: Riffleman Ammo

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Fandango wrote:This is wrong as well.
lol what? you can reload HAT with one ammo bag, go play the damn game and see for yourself.
also I'm 99% sure you can't ressuply ammo bag with ammo bag.
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Re: Riffleman Ammo

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Fandango wrote:No. You can resupply your ammo bag from 1 ammo bag, but make sure you are not resuplying anything else, except 2-3 clips for your rifle. When you throw your ammo bag, it creates an empty slot in your inventory.
Im sure, after spawn I used only that 1 field dress, so i thrown ammobag to ressuply that field dress, but it broke few seconds later, and i didnt have new fielddress. Imho iit should be fixed in some way, if empy ammo slot eats ammobag instead of focusing on other slots.
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Re: Riffleman Ammo

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Souls Of Mischief wrote:You can rearm your HAT from one ammo bag if you only used up the rocket. If you reloaded your firearm, used the field dressing etc. you won't rearm the HAT.
Souls Of Mischief wrote:Wasn't in 0.98. Are you playing 1.0? HUR DUR
1 ammo bag allows you to resupply 2-3 rifle clips with 1 HAT (field dressing or C4 for that matter). Read my whole post, your explanation is in there.
Unhealed wrote:lol what? you can reload HAT with one ammo bag, go play the damn game and see for yourself.
also I'm 99% sure you can't ressuply ammo bag with ammo bag.
Easy champion. Read my previous post, again.
Takeda wrote:Im sure, after spawn I used only that 1 field dress, so i thrown ammobag to ressuply that field dress, but it broke few seconds later, and i didnt have new fielddress. Imho iit should be fixed in some way, if empy ammo slot eats ammobag instead of focusing on other slots.
I'll repeat this for the last time, when you use your field dressing and then throw your ammo bag to resupply your field dressing, you are resupplying BOTH AMMO BAG AND FIELD DRESSING. And 1 ammo bag is not enough to resupply 2 empty slot of your inventory. If you still can't get what I'm saying, I can't help you.
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Re: Riffleman Ammo

Post by Souls Of Mischief »

Fandango wrote:1 ammo bag allows you to resupply 2-3 rifle clips with 1 HAT (field dressing or C4 for that matter). Read my whole post, your explanation is in there.
Feel free to point me in the right direction....

No, it doesn't, atleast in my experience.
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Re: Riffleman Ammo

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Souls Of Mischief wrote:Feel free to point me in the right direction....

No, it doesn't, atleast in my experience.
I already did.

You are not experienced enough then.
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Re: Riffleman Ammo

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Fandango wrote:I already did.

You are not experienced enough then.
I haven't played PR for some time now, but if you used anything besides the HAT, atleast in my experience, you won't be able to rearm the HAT with one ammo bag. Feel free to provide proof that it is possible.
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Re: Rifleman Ammo

Post by speedazz »

And how comes when you have more than one ammo bag next to each other, you can reload ammo at faster rate? Ammo bags gives extra hands to rearm? :D
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Re: Rifleman Ammo

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Souls Of Mischief wrote:I haven't played PR for some time now, but if you used anything besides the HAT, atleast in my experience, you won't be able to rearm the HAT with one ammo bag. Feel free to provide proof that it is possible.
You can use your gear to some point to being able to reload your HAT from 1 ammo bag. Notice the total ammuniton count that HAT has in the inventory, just 1 (same applies for C4, AT mine, Field dressing, Ammo Bag etc.). Also, you have 2 smokes, 2 incendiary, 6 rifle magazines (mostly, can't remember all the guns ammo count) etc. they are plural, not only 1. As an another example, rifleman kit has unlimited ammo, if you use your ammo bag after couple of magazines fired. Is this really hard to get?

1 Smoke + HAT
1 Incendiary + 1 Field Dressing
3(approximately) rifle magazine + LAT

They all the same. Just count the ammuniton you have for specific gear, same mechanic applies to everything. I don't have time and will to prove it though, seriously this is basic stuff.

OP has diffrent problem though, he is talking about reloading field dressing with rifleman kit which is not possible with his own ammo bag. I'm not sure if he is used to co-op mechanics or just didn't get the point.
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Re: Rifleman Ammo

Post by Souls Of Mischief »

Fandango wrote:You can use your gear to some point to being able to reload your HAT from 1 ammo bag. Notice the total ammuniton count that HAT has in the inventory, just 1 (same applies for C4, AT mine, Field dressing, Ammo Bag etc.). Also, you have 2 smokes, 2 incendiary, 6 rifle magazines (mostly, can't remember all the guns ammo count) etc. they are plural, not only 1. As an another example, rifleman kit has unlimited ammo, if you use your ammo bag after couple of magazines fired. Is this really hard to get?

1 Smoke + HAT
1 Incendiary + 1 Field Dressing
3(approximately) rifle magazine + LAT

They all the same. Just count the ammuniton you have for specific gear, same mechanic applies to everything. I don't have time and will to prove it though, seriously this is basic stuff.
This was a rough day, but what the hell are you talking about? All I got from your comment - just 1 =/= plural. Somebody, please explain like I'm 5. Count what? WTF do I need to count. You just threw random numbers together and finished it with "just count, this is basic stuff. Just test it for 5 hours and you'll get it".
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