Firing from the hip a cheat or not?

[L4gi]

Its not that hard to shoot from the hip in CQB in .98. I do it all the time.

[Inspektura43]

I put a transparent tape with a little dot and place it on my screen where the bullet would land. That way I have aiming without actually aiming, though it's not as accurate as aiming because of the recoil. But in close combat situations, having not to push the right mouse button which take a half second to aim can mean life or death.

Dont know about small arms but that works great with the hat-kit against everything (even helis) when you hipfire it

[Sgt. Mahi]

I put a transparent tape with a little dot and place it on my screen where the bullet would land. That way I have aiming without actually aiming, though it's not as accurate as aiming because of the recoil. But in close combat situations, having not to push the right mouse button which take a half second to aim can mean life or death.

Lame!!!

[notmyingamename]

no one fires from The hip, stop saying "from the hip", all shots fired in PR are shoulder fired, sighted or unsighted.

The only exception are the MMGs, like the M240, which is a true hip fire.

that's where hip fire really shines. maps like korengal or fallujah often come down to those tight spaces during that final push in the cache, and the non-scoped AR is invaluable. send a few frags in and have your honorary john rambo lead the way for democracy

[MrBrooks]

I put a transparent tape with a little dot and place it on my screen where the bullet would land. That way I have aiming without actually aiming, though it's not as accurate as aiming because of the recoil. But in close combat situations, having not to push the right mouse button which take a half second to aim can mean life or death.

So I was right about some people sticking tape on their screens lol.

[PR0_SNIPE]

This isn't Call of Duty - meaning that your round won't go some weird direction when you hipfire. It'll go where its pointing, i.e. straight.

[saXoni]

I put a transparent tape with a little dot and place it on my screen where the bullet would land. That way I have aiming without actually aiming, though it's not as accurate as aiming because of the recoil. But in close combat situations, having not to push the right mouse button which take a half second to aim can mean life or death.

That's pretty much equivalent to downloading a software that gives you a crosshair. Should be a banable offense.

[cyprezz]

That's pretty much equivalent to downloading a software that gives you a crosshair. Should be a banable offense.

I think you guys are taking this way out of portion here for all the hater out there. Banable offense, really? I don't think you guy understand the serious disadvantage of firing while "unaimed". There's just way too much recoil and inaccuracy, that in most cases I can be three feet away from someone and empty all my rounds without even having killed anyone from that especially when I'm moving and firing fully automatic, as oppose to firing while aiming and moving using full auto. The deviation is so big compared to aiming, it's practically stupid to use in most cases. The only time I would say this would be an advance is when you are behind a recoiless weapon like a .35 cal or the machine gun on the helicopter, but the advantages are very little because the tracer bullet makes a good indicator of where the bullets will land as soon as you fire it. Or if you are faced to faced with your enemy where you can practically spit in their face, even then the little dot isn't much of an advantage because I can still visualize where the center that it would not matter if I'm off a few inches, all that round and the close proximity of the enemy would make who ever fire the most would win in that case.

I think I may have over exaggerated the advances in my last statement. But you guys are making this into a mountain hill over an ant hill here. BTW I rarely firing unaimed, even in close combat because when I'm advancing toward an close quarter area where enemies are known to be, it will be the enemy who is waiting in the room with their weapon aimed that will kill me with the first three rounds that comes out vs my entire rounds that I would have fired uncontrollably . The only time it has it advantages is when we're both surprise by each other present in a very close proximity like 1-2 feet away where Both people are firing without aiming. That's the advantages I talking about. Let me tell you something also, there are many times when I and the enemy are in that situation that no one died after both of us empties our rounds, it's when we took out our knives that someone ending up died. Also there are times where I'm chasing an unsuspecting enemy from behind and I manage to get so close, I feel so confident to not even aim and just fully unload my rounds to his back. But that's not really an advantage is it?

[40mmrain]

That's pretty much equivalent to downloading a software that gives you a crosshair. Should be a banable offense.

okay, but good luck ever proving that anyone does it.

[cyprezz]

Dont know about small arms but that works great with the hat-kit against everything (even helis) when you hipfire it

I haven't tested the HAT with my method, but don't the deviation increase as you move your aiming? I do see a trade off with my method though. It takes like a second or two to aim with the HAT and your field of vision is narrowed quite a bit, but the downside of unaiming is that you can't tell how far the deviation has become when the rocket is flying to it's target. Your best bet is to move as little of possible. Also, since you are not aiming with it, you won't be able to aim and hit things very far, since aiming does give you a magnified vision.

[Mikemonster]

Fine by me if you stick a dot on your screen - If you can put up with it no problem to me!

There are loads of exploits etc that you can do with PC's to get an advantage, this to me is really just common sense (if you can put up with it).

If you have a good soundcard you can alter the settings 'on the fly' so that you can pinpoint enemy tanks by hearing them. This is not really on in my opinion, who cares about a red spot though?

[MrBrooks]

@cyprezz - I have to agree it is a bit ridiculous the way you walk into a room guns blazing and hit nothing. In real life you would hit those guys shooting with your feet, so I see why you use your sticky tape method. Still, if you are using this and nobody else is then this gives you an advantage, so it's wrong in that respect..

[sgtamato]

There was a post about the fact that if you fire without aiming the rounds will het in center of your screen. The post said to put a dot in the center of your screen and this would give you a good point of impact for close range exchanges. I checked this by firing at a wall and my rounds hit as post said they would.It suggested putting a dot there as a reference. Was quite accurate at close range. Not so so good the further away your target is. this post was back in 2011

[Souls Of Mischief]

That's pretty much equivalent to downloading a software that gives you a crosshair. Should be a banable offense.

Not sure if sarcasm or....

[[508th_PIR] Grey]

Still, if you are using this and nobody else is then this gives you an advantage, so it's wrong in that respect..

The difference is that everyone is free and able to do the same, with impunity. It's really no different from someone using advanced hardware - gaming mouse/keyboard/gamepad/TrackIR/etc.

[WeeD-KilleR]

Not sure if sarcasm or....

No I am pretty sure GGC bans you for using such a program, money quote:

GGC won't tolerate non-game-specific crosshairs and will ban players - with a corresponding screenshot proof - for it! How this crosshair is produced is irrelevant!

Non-game-specific crosshairs / NVIDIA 3D Vision - General Discussion - GGC-Stream

The only difference here is that you apply this 'hack' (which by defintion it is a hack) physically instead of virtually. Similiar to using low graphics as an advantage, not because your system is bad...

[Spec]

Let's not discuss it. In my opinion, SaXoni is right. But at the same time, we'll never be able to reliably prove that, so no point arguing.

One subsequent post on this topic removed.

[Cassius]

I guess if you figured out the pattern of the spray you know where to aim your weapon to have a likely hit. I did not pay attention, but I assume there is one pattern of bullet spray when you fire from the hip.

What this means, while it looks like the bullets go all over the place in a random order, the order is not random at all, but always the same pattern.

[Spec]

This thread was about AA, and I don't see it going back there, so locking. Sorry folks.

And I'm pretty sure the pattern is entirely random.