"I am done teamplaying" (long post)

[Unhealed]

About mics. Players might have good reasons to not use one. Discriminating against that is not a good idea.

But how players are supposed to know if you have a reasons or just being an *******?
So ok, you have a health reason or something, but your statement here:

They are teamplay bureaucrats that believe the only qualification to be a good PR player is to use a mic

Might be true for the helicopter pilot, but is not true for the infantry man, a rifleman/medic/whatever with a mic will be always better than you simply becouse you are defunct infantry squad member without a voice, deal with it, teamplay bureaucrats are right.
I think you should let server admins/mods/squadleaders to know about your problem with the health(if you have a strange voice you can use voice morpher btw), instead of listing your mic related problems here, which is pointless becouse reactions like that is a human nature problem, not a PR problem.

[stray cat]

Well not wanting to use a mic for whatever reason does not mean you are an *******. I can still want to engage in the teamplay even if I cant/wont use a mic.


Another issue is that players with mics often assume they are the greatest teamplayers because they happen to use a mic. This often is combined with complete disrespect of players that do not use one.

Let my simplify this:

A player has this image of what teamplay is:

base teamplay rating: 0

Uses mic +1
Talks trash about players that do not use a mic +1
Being an actual teamplayer and doing teamplay +1
Does not use mic -(infinity)

So in the eyes of a mic nazi anyone who does not use a mic cant ever be a good teamplayer and is damned for eternity because not having a mic is -(infinity), therefore any deed of teamplay cant equalize the negative teamplay score.


In short: Having a mic should not give a player the license to be an ***. But it is often abused for that. Having a mic is the last line of defense someone uses to discredit someone when he wants an admin to kick him.



Mic nazi: "That guy is not teamplaying! He is a heretic!"
Defendant: "No I am not, I flew 80 players across map without losing a single heli!"
Admin: "Hmm that makes sense, he could be a good teamplayer, he proved it."
Mic nazi: "But he has no mic!"
Admin: "ZOMFG BAN THE HERETIC AND PUT SALT ON HIS PC SO NOTHING WILL EVER GROW AGAIN ON HIS IP ADRESS"

[Unhealed]

Well not wanting to use a mic for whatever reason does not mean you are an *******. I can still want to engage in the teamplay even if I cant/wont use a mic.

Yeah, but how are we supposed to know it?
The rest of your post:
Yeah, we all know there is ******** and noobs with microphones, but it doesn't change the fact that without a mic you are more vulnerable as a player, you are invalid member of the squad by default.
For example you saw the enemy behind the corner but you can't say it, you have to type it, and while you are typing it enemy pops up from the corner again and kills you and half of your squad. While someone with the mic would just tell your team that he saw the enemy.

[PoisonBill]

push esc while in the game > option > audio > pull the effects bar down

Instructions weren't clear enough...

[Spook]

1. I can not alt tab ingame because of RAM, so messing with some program outside of PR is out of the question during the game.

>https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f27-pr ... ution.html

That tool takes up 2mb of RAM. I am pretty sure your computer can handle that.

Get a mic and all of your problems will be gone. If it was me I would probably even refuse to get into any chopper whose pilot has no mic. No mic means noob in 90% of all cases. I actually kick for not having a mic on our server because we have a rule saying mumble is mandatory and that teamplay is enforced. Without a mic there cannot be any teamplay.

You are wondering why you are getting kicked out of squads even though you were actually right? It's because you cannot even explain to the SL why you did it and why it was the right decision. YOu think anyone is going to start reading to your ingame texts trying to explain stuff?

Mic is a vital part in PR. PR reached a point where you cannot play without it anymore. Thats my opinion. In most cases you could have avoided kicks by just explaining your situation to the people using your mic. Only the fact that you are not using a mic + a report from a player which was actually not true (like asset waste just because you were burning and landed safely) makes the admin automatically assume you are a newbie since you have no mic and people allegedly saw you flying recklessly. They will tell you to learn flying in coop. A kick would be inappropriate though aslong as you really did not simply fly into a wall for no reason.

[Mauser GDog]

I've seen some rash admins in PR for sure, jumping the gun and kicking people without any idea what the situation was. I'd go to that servers webpage and post a very brief & friendly message to help them improve the quality of their admins.

But....

Playing without a mic, in general, is frustrating for the people you are playing with, and that's the bottom line. I don't kick for not having a mic, but it's less than ideal when squad leading.

If you are speech impaired, then that's a good reason (obviously) to not use a mic. Short of that, you can't expect players to understand why you don't use one.

[Frontliner]

Mic nazi: "That guy is not teamplaying! He is a heretic!"
Defendant: "No I am not, I flew 80 players across map without losing a single heli!"
Admin: "Hmm that makes sense, he could be a good teamplayer, he proved it."
Mic nazi: "But he has no mic!"
Admin: "ZOMFG BAN THE HERETIC AND PUT SALT ON HIS PC SO NOTHING WILL EVER GROW AGAIN ON HIS IP ADRESS"

I've been using headphones to communicate with mates, friends and enemies(not in PR) alike since 2005. At this point I cannot do without(well I could, but why would I go to non-verbal comms when I have a better working alternative?) and I can't understand why you choose to avoid buying one yourself for no reason. Mumble is mandatory on most servers for years now, and even on those servers who don't have a rule for it, people largely expect you to have one.

Btw, nice generalization that we're all a bunch of ******** for enforcing solid communications

[Cpt.Future]

About squad leader authority:
I often object my squad leaders plan to ride into combat on vehicles. Especialyl since that plan fails many times because of idiot drivers who drive right into the enemy before dismounting, instead of parking 100-200m away before getting out. Many times I get kicked off the squad for that.
Is that nice? Fair? Abusive?

Some may say, the squad leader is the boss, and you shoul follow orders. While that is true in reality, in this game it can not be applied like this. Because players do not have to have any specific qualification to be a squad leader. So why risk a 50+ second black screen because my SL is an idiot?
Also attitude. My basic rule is: the more vocal on a mic a SL is, the more of an ******* he is going to be.
As a SL you do not GET to yell at people, or threaten instant kick if they do not follow you exactly. I refuse to bunch up in a bee line with 1m distance to my squad mate, because grenades.

You need to follow orders. If you think your SL sucks, just leave the squad right away. Don't complain if someone kicks you from the squad because you live in your own little dream world and ignore direct orders.

CO>SL>SM

[Lugi]

Mic is mandatory in PR. Deal with it. Without one you can't be a good squad member, just like an armless guy won't become a good basketball player.

[stray cat]

Mic is mandatory in PR. Deal with it. Without one you can't be a good squad member, just like an armless guy won't become a good basketball player.

No, you have to deal with me flying your transhelis and not having a mic.


Anyways.

Another episode of admin abuse.

Flying flawlessly in my Mi8, on Burning Sands. First I get yelled at for someone because instead of landing him in his desired location, I hovered 1m above the floor because it was uneven. Calls me idiot and that I should learn to fly on a training server. That same guy later crashed 2 helis.

Later in the round, I am asked to pick up people near the sea for transport, so I fly to the sea and nearly get rammed by a chinook who is landing and enemies storm out of it and put some heavy fire on me. So I flee with my tail between my legs to base to repair, but I still find the time to type quickly the location of the enemy heli which landed in the teams rear. (Because if you do not use a mic, you learn to type really quickly).

I get admin warned for not doing my job. Because aborting a landing because 5 enemy dudes + a chinook doorgunner is trying to perforate my flying cow.

Later in the round after many successfuly on the point drops I get a request to land on the airfield because that zone was cappable. The 2 passengers tell me to land quick. So I fly there and land, however the passengers were not happy because I did not do the super fast approach+ hard brake landing. Instead I did a slower turn and more gradually came to a stop (which was still fast, the landing took a few seconds longer). They got out safe andall was fine

Later I get a request from teh same guys, but with a full squad. Again I approach that landing zone, landing behind a building. However this time an enemy apc + at least 10 enemy men and an apache were present. During my landing the apache strafed me and I had to get away quick, with 2 men still in my cargo. Instead of doign the safe thing like instantly fleeing for home, I actually risked my *** to get those 2 still in the cargo on the ground. So I sneaked around some buildings, and landed them, an apc missile or dumbfire rocket hit my tail after I got them out safe and I flew the heli back home, landed it on the spot, with the engine burning.

Then the unhappy fast landing request customer gets angry with me, claims I cant fly and reports to admin for which I get kicked.

I get blamed for the squad dying in that hellhole that was the airfield after they landed safely even though I had to land while getting strafed by an apache, shot in the *** by a rocket.

Again, not a single passenger of my helis died that round. And getting killed 10 seconds after landing by an enemy APC IN THEIR FUCKING HOMEBASE is not my fault. if you ask me to drop you into the bee nest, dont blame me for getting stung.

2h worth of perfect flying and supporting the team and being battle taxi are rewarded with a "you cant fly" insult which was then forwarded to an admin who acted on it without even checking wether if it was true.



How about PR sends people that judge admins on their behaviour? That should be in the server license.

(I will not publicly disclose who abused my or which server it was, if you really must know ask me in a pm. Then you can ask the server owner for a battle recorder so you can verify I am not talking trash)


The ******* that reported me was not the issue. It is admins who act on these claims for no reason that ruin teamplay.

[Wicca]

In PRTA you are required to have a mic to play. So dont join our server.

U can talk and fly, but you cant type and fly. I think you are lying to yourself. Also teamwork comes easier with a mic, rather than a keyboard.

[spawncaptain]

No, you have to deal with me flying your transhelis and not having a mic.

Not on my watch.

[PFunk]

In PRTA you are required to have a mic to play. So dont join our server.

Since when is this true?

In all the years I've played PR the only rule generally was that SLs and Commanders needed mics, as a server rule. Obviously squad leaders could make their own rule, but by and large the mix was usually 50% mic'd 50% without.

If this is the state of PR's welcoming attitude then I must say I'm not impressed. There's a reason I buggered off for so long, but I guess it didn't get better in time.

Frankly you people make me sick talking like this. Some of the best guns I've ever had in a public PR squad were mic-less, and whats the difference? Half the people with mics barely talk anyway, and when you get into a firefight never say anything useful other than "medic".

Sod this.

[sirfstar]

the mix was usually 50% mic'd 50% without.

lol what? Back then in 0.3 maybe, now its like 95% with mics, 4% with mics not talking and 1% without a mic. At least its super-rare to see someone without a mic on EU-servers, can't say about RU / US ones as i never play on these.

[Wicca]

Since when is this true?

In all the years I've played PR the only rule generally was that SLs and Commanders needed mics, as a server rule. Obviously squad leaders could make their own rule, but by and large the mix was usually 50% mic'd 50% without.

If this is the state of PR's welcoming attitude then I must say I'm not impressed. There's a reason I buggered off for so long, but I guess it didn't get better in time.

Frankly you people make me sick talking like this. Some of the best guns I've ever had in a public PR squad were mic-less, and whats the difference? Half the people with mics barely talk anyway, and when you get into a firefight never say anything useful other than "medic".

Sod this.

Hey, you go play on servers where they dont have mics. I dont mind. We have another standard on PRTA.

People who come in and say hi, I am new. Are more likely to be noticed to. This game became twice as good with mumble. Where anyone could talk. And still you prefer teamchat and squadchat over voice?

I dont get it funk.

Im not really sorry for dissapointing you.

[Frontliner]

The more you talk the more it seems evident to me that your beef with everybody comes from lack of being able to explain yourself properly, which in turn largely comes from you not having a mic. Right now, you're like "DEAL WITH ME NOT HAVING A MIC!" which makes you come of like an asshat, for a server admin lacking the means to communicate properly should be a no-go, and I'm surprised you'd even bring that to public attention. I also wager 90% of all the other server admins and owners are currently quite dumbstruck that you are choosing to willingly ignore a key server rule that has been in place for the last 3 years at the least, on the majority of all servers.

I mean, it's your choice, but you're quite stubborn not putting some 30 bucks into your problem solver, but instead bash server administrators in general - you're not name calling, ok, but you're making a big deal out of an almost non-issue that's ENTIRELY up to you to resolve.

[JTtheOKIE]

Ok, we all get it, you're a great pilot. The fact of the matter is, though, that no-one thinks you can effectively communicate while piloting without a mic. This is a huge disadvantage to the team and players you are transporting.

And I can see why people are frustrated. There's been an increase in the amount of bad pilots recently. We've all been in the situation where you are stuck with a bad pilot. Either they either don't communicate, crash, or leave half your squad behind with open seats in the chopper.

Honestly, what is your reasoning? I've been ridiculed all my life for having a speech impediment, and I still use a mic. And it's not all PR either, I can't stand playing any multiplayer game without one.


Oh, and Cpt.Future, I love your Travis Haley sig.

[Hokunin]

Stray cat, does your religion strictly prohibit you from using mic on PC?


P.S.: I always believed, all specialist squads must have mics, like tank crews and pilots, and also squadleaders - where fast and loud information exchange is a must.

[Arc_Shielder]

Although I understand the very few for not being able to use mics, I am glad that the community pressures every player to use a mic. The standard of gameplay is higher this way. The cohesion wouldn't be as strong if we tolerated micless members so easily.

Now, we can highlight a few occasions when that doesn't happen, but if anyone really believes that a server with no one using a mic will work out just as good as a server with everyone with a mic...