Insurgency Mode Civi Kills

atom9[CH] · Post by **atom9[CH]** » 2013-08-11 18:29

I just noticed that I cant kill anymore civis. Probably after 5 civi kills I get autokilled by the console. Thats not realistic and stupid. I hope you can understand me and change something.
In my opinion its ok that you get -100 but not that you get killed.

|atom9[CH]

=-=kittykiller · Post by **=-=kittykiller** » 2013-08-11 18:31

'atom9[CH wrote:;1933957']I just noticed that I cant kill anymore civis. Probably after 5 civi kills I get autokilled by the console. Thats not realistic and stupid. I hope you can understand me and change something.
In my opinion its ok that you get -100 but not that you get killed.

|atom9[CH]

cool aint it ARGHAHAHAHAH v

nAyo · Post by **nAyo** » 2013-08-11 18:32

I think it's 4 civilians killed within 10 minutes. I don't really support this change either, the last system was good enough but oh well

=-=kittykiller · Post by **=-=kittykiller** » 2013-08-11 18:39

nAyo wrote:I think it's 4 civilians killed within 10 minutes. I don't really support this change either, the last system was good enough but oh well

this system is awesome cuz ure not supposed to sit up high and kill endless civis i.e. medics

the old system was **** cuz and i did just shoot every civi i see especially in aRMOUR !!!
If ure in armour u cud kill any civi u saw as at most you have 5 min respawn yet ure asset takes 10 mins to respawn.

This fix is awesome as you might have to look at what ure shooting and its only 4 in 10 mins

this meens a squad of eight men can kill 21 civis in 10 mins just not one LMG or IFV murdering millions of them

atom9[CH] · Post by **atom9[CH]** » 2013-08-11 19:30

I hate it but its still possible to get over 100 kills but its annoying because in this game I got killed twice from the console.

Raklodder · Post by **Raklodder** » 2013-08-11 19:45

I know that feeling, when being surrounded by two USMC vehicle (transport and Stryker) and six men in uniform, they don't shoot, just look at you for a minute or two, until one hothead decide to stab you in the back with his bayonet.

Heavy Death · Post by **Heavy Death** » 2013-08-11 19:54

What. What is this thread. Youre not supposed to kill civies, hence the limitation.

And Raklodder, sir, that hothead just earned his team bunch of intelligence points... Knifining counts as restraining, which is the same, just a different model.

Raklodder · Post by **Raklodder** » 2013-08-11 20:00

Heavy Death wrote:What. What is this thread. Youre not supposed to kill civies, hence the limitation.

And Raklodder, sir, that hothead just earned his team bunch of intelligence points... Knifining counts as restraining, which is the same, just a different model.

Really? I thought they could only restrain you with restraints or that shotgun. Thanks mate for the information!

Curry · Post by **Curry** » 2013-08-11 21:02

Maybe some people here should stop worrying too much about their KDR and not being listed on top of the scoreboard at the end of the round. The auto kill function is nice function to stop individuals to damage the whole team. One player can ruin the game for 49 other players on the BLUFOR side. ID your targets before engaging and don’t ruin your team’s intelligence points.

There is a 10 mins timer which resets your civi kills. If you kill too many civi’s you maybe should stay off the assets Atom. For the sake of your team.

Curry.

emmanuel15 · Post by **emmanuel15** » 2013-08-11 21:21

Heavy Death wrote: And Raklodder, sir, that hothead just earned his team bunch of intelligence points... Knifing counts as restraining, which is the same, just a different model.

Raklodder wrote:Really? I thought they could only restrain you with restraints or that shotgun. Thanks mate for the information!

Death your'e talking nonsense... Knifing civis definatly thosen't earn your'e team intelligence rather it earns your'e team another hothead... don't thank him for this info cause it's false and if you don't belive cheack field manual which you should have...

40mmrain · Post by **40mmrain** » 2013-08-11 21:31

Not being allowed to shoot at a guy standing next to a a dude shooting at you with his pkm, observing with you binoculars is stupid. Running into APC fire is stupid. Getting blasted with a shotgun and being arrested is stupid. Literally standing on top of an AK (kit) and not being allowed to be shot is stupid. Everything about the civilian is broken, unrealistic, and shit gameplay.

atom9[CH] · Post by **atom9[CH]** » 2013-08-11 21:47

40mmrain wrote:Not being allowed to shoot at a guy standing next to a a dude shooting at you with his pkm, observing with you binoculars is stupid. Running into APC fire is stupid.

100% agree with it

Murphy · Post by **Murphy** » 2013-08-11 22:00

I was wondering why that guy died after shooting me, I think this idea is horrible.

I can now get a few friends and force death upon Blufor players by doing what civilians have done since the start - THROWING MYSELF INTO FIRE.

"Blufor now has to consider it's targets more, and can't mindlessly spam ordinance without proper intel on the target". I get that being the point, but players will exploit this mechanic.

007.SirBond · Post by **007.SirBond** » 2013-08-12 01:21

40mmrain wrote:Not being allowed to shoot at a guy standing next to a a dude shooting at you with his pkm, observing with you binoculars is stupid. Running into APC fire is stupid. Getting blasted with a shotgun and being arrested is stupid. Literally standing on top of an AK (kit) and not being allowed to be shot is stupid. Everything about the civilian is broken, unrealistic, and shit gameplay.

Seeing as how PR is suppose to replicate some sort of aspect of realism. The civilian mechanic is unique as it is something no other game offers. I like it, yes a civilian intentionally running into the line of fire from M240 is not very common in real life, but if this case was to occur in real life, you could still face punishment for murdering a unarmed civilian.

Israel faces negative criticism all the time in the media for the deaths of unarmed civilians because sometimes civilian collaborators are so crazy that they have no self-preservation, they end up being killed being in the wrong place at the right time.

lets say you are in the battlefield, and a mob of civilians begin throwing stones at you (Perhaps there are armed insurgents near them, firing on your squad mates and you have a few men down and unresponsive, perhaps some of the civilians are not throwing stones but are immobile for other reasons but clearly between you and the shooters), these stones are large enough to cut, injure, perhaps even incapacitate you or even kill you from blunt force trauma. If you choose to open fire, you are shooting down unarmed combatants. You would face heavy negativity if the media discovered this. Imagine if they were children! This type of dilemma is not new for soldiers operating in areas where unarmed civilians live. The punishment as of right now is not even severe enough! It doesn't even capture the essence of how much moral guilt, and mental problems that would persist for a soldier who had to gun down unarmed women and children. Be glad this is just a videogame!

ComradeHX · Post by **ComradeHX** » 2013-08-12 01:53

40mmrain wrote:Not being allowed to shoot at a guy standing next to a a dude shooting at you with his pkm, observing with you binoculars is stupid. Running into APC fire is stupid. Getting blasted with a shotgun and being arrested is stupid. Literally standing on top of an AK (kit) and not being allowed to be shot is stupid. Everything about the civilian is broken, unrealistic, and shit gameplay.

My sarcasm detector is a little broken, though.

Quobble · Post by **Quobble** » 2013-08-12 02:04

haha atmo.
das kommt davon wenn du ?berall nur draufballerst, nur um kills zu kassieren.
"that happens if you just pound on everything, just to earn the kills"

srsly.
the new system is awesome.

saamohod · Post by **saamohod** » 2013-08-12 02:52

The new system is ok. Just avoid killing the civilians, that's all. If you do excessive civi kill, you will be arrested and put to court martial (which is imitated by auto-killing the offender on the spot). Seems fair. What's the problem? SIMPLY DON"T KILL THE CIVIS !

Rissien · Post by **Rissien** » 2013-08-12 03:10

Its to keep you from indiscriminately killing them. Though does become a problem when they act as human sheilds. Was gunning in the LAV-25 on Fallujah. Civi was standing right infront of the doorway to a known cache trying to keep me from killing insurgents inside. End of round i ended up killing 7 civies with the penalty another 3 that were within roe *had just spawned/revived someone* I never got autokilled tho because I was at least careful not to go on sprees. It did suck when id just get a civi kill shooting in a room I just saw an rpg in, or see a head on a roof shoot HE and civi kill but I made due.

=-=kittykiller · Post by **=-=kittykiller** » 2013-08-12 03:58

emmanuel15 wrote:Death your'e talking nonsense... Knifing civis definatly thosen't earn your'e team intelligence rather it earns your'e team another hothead... don't thank him for this info cause it's false and if you don't belive cheack field manual which you should have...

there are no knives on ins maps for blufor (french oops even then melee is arrest)

enemy kit cant be used blackscreen

so whats ure point! you have no point! RTFM superceeded by PTFG

on ins maps melee kills earn you 10 intel civi or regular insurgent. kill civi -10 intel
(apart from after1min after spawn/medikit/resushands/usekit\drive)

=-=kittykiller · Post by **=-=kittykiller** » 2013-08-12 04:07

'atom9[CH wrote:;1934013']I hate it but its still possible to get over 100 kills but its annoying because in this game I got killed twice from the console.

You sir are the epitomie of stoopid

ok so 100 kills at 1 intel a piece = 100 intel

2 deaths due to minimum of 8 civi kills = -minus 80 intel

so in conclusion

its possible u lost more intel than you gained your team thus contributing mostly to your KILLS AND NOT SPEEDILY FINDING CACHES

What a total TIT!

92 intel is a cache almost yet ure killing of 8 civis meant ure team had to work to pick up your slack. After you gloriously raped the known caches lol lol harhar haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar IFV lol

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