No room in squads

[Blackburn92xBHD]

since 1.0 was released i think all of us encountered that problem at least once evere 5 rounds: no room in squads! mostly because there are 2 man locked recon/sniper squads (wich is actually not wrong because you need only few people behind enemy lines) or people just locking because they want to play with their clanmates only...

i see 2 solutions for that: either DEV's manage to make it possible to have 10 squads (i think 10 is enough) but im not sure if the engine allows that...

or combining certain squads, for example: a CAS/TRANS squad should be common because it improves gameplay alot, if CAS gets shot down and no one uses the trans choppers (wich happens sometimes) they can just do trans instead of waiting in front of their hangar...

sorry for bad english but i think you will know what i mean.

[IINoddyII]

There is another solution. Join a server with no locked squads rule

[ParadoxicalPancake]

When I've played some rounds, I've seen instances of where teams will have locked infantry squads with just the minimum of four people for certain kits. If three squads do this, you may find the team in a situation where you've got people outside of a squad because certain SL's are being silly.

Most servers do a pretty good job as far as rules on locking squads from what I've seen so far, but I don't really think infantry squads should be locked at all.

[Blackburn92xBHD]

There is another solution. Join a server with no locked squads rule

yes but there are certain squads that need to have only few people in it, so no good solution.

[Archosaurus]

The problem arrives when you need more attack helos, and more trans helos, but can only have more or less of either in one squad.

Personally, its fine. Just learn to do any role, and avoid playing on jerkoff clan servers where they lock the squad at 4 players or something.

Back to the learn to do any role part, yeah, do that. I don't think there is anything we can do to "force" open slots, but to my experience there are always some. Since 1.0 came out if I joined late I could join a squad, and if I joined early I could start any squad and lead it.

[Blackburn92xBHD]

The problem arrives when you need more attack helos, and more trans helos, but can only have more or less of either in one squad.

Personally, its fine. Just learn to do any role, and avoid playing on jerkoff clan servers where they lock the squad at 4 players or something.

Back to the learn to do any role part, yeah, do that. I don't think there is anything we can do to "force" open slots, but to my experience there are always some. Since 1.0 came out if I joined late I could join a squad, and if I joined early I could start any squad and lead it.

i played ramiel on CIA today and there where NO slots for anyone cause they kept their squads locked! an no one was able to create a squad.. there where like 6 guys unassigned.. so much to learn to do any role..

[Archosaurus]

i played ramiel on CIA today and there where NO slots for anyone cause they kept their squads locked! an no one was able to create a squad.. there where like 6 guys unassigned.. so much to learn to do any role..

I have little experience with CIA, but refer to the "jerkoffs locking squad at 4" points.

Try playing on PRTA or Hardcore, I get good games there every time.

[sirfstar]

I have little experience with CIA, but refer to the "jerkoffs locking squad at 4" points.

Try playing on PRTA or Hardcore, I get good games there every time.

PRTA rules actually allows to lock at 4.

All hail 100p, enjoy being unassigned.

[Blackburn92xBHD]

PRTA rules actually allows to lock at 4.

All hail 100p, enjoy being unassigned.

this is not acceptable! 100p servers is probably the best thing that happened to PR since the 0.8 release and the lack of room in the squad ruins it!

[xCryonic]

PRTA rules actually allows to lock at 4.

All hail 100p, enjoy being unassigned.

We at PRTA are currently voting for changing the rule, from 4-man locked squads to 6-man locked squads.

[ghostfool84]

6-man locked squads would be better, hopefully other servers will follow.

[ExeTick]

NwA have a minimum of 6 players in infantry squads before it can be locked. although this is not a official rule atm we try to enforce it anyway.

but like the tank on basrah you can lock it on 3 or 4 players or what ever you like except for 1.

or trans on kokan. but be prepaired to open incase squad space is needed.

[PLODDITHANLEY]

Very short sighted, we have a big influx of players if we don't show them a good time they'll leave and we'll be down to a few 64 servers again.

The clan squads should try to show one player a good time so he joins your clan?

Surprisingly the no locked squads works really well on BIG D.

[sirfstar]

Very short sighted, we have a big influx of players if we don't show them a good time they'll leave and we'll be down to a few 64 servers again.

The clan squads should try to show one player a good time so he joins your clan?

Surprisingly the no locked squads works really well on BIG D.

Nothing surprising at all since it is very specific server. No language barrier is a first big difference. Correct me if i'm wrong but I really doubt that anyone outside AUS playing on this server with 300-1000 ping.
And not every clan is recruiting, its a short sighted statement they should show something.

btw the most short sighted thing there is 100p itself. Did not improve anything but made gameplay faster and arcadish. inb4 FUG U 100P IS AWSOM WE LUV IT

[Archosaurus]

100p is not the problem for locked squads, the players are.

I have played matches on NwA and PRTA with even two people in a locked squad, and sometimes when some better people were on no squad was locked.

[Heskey]

Perhaps we need to make a new 'standard' throughout the community, something like...

Locked squads forbidden UNLESS:

1. You have enough people to adequately man the asset your squad is for (where possible, combine - such as snipers and CAS on a 1 or 2 chopper map)
2. You are waiting for a player to teamswitch / reconnect

This "I only like 6-man squad" nonsense needs to stop - Squads are now 8 men strong, move with the times.

[Archosaurus]

Perhaps we need to make a new 'standard' throughout the community, something like...

Locked squads forbidden UNLESS:

1. You have enough people to adequately man the asset your squad is for (where possible, combine - such as snipers and CAS on a 1 or 2 chopper map)
2. You are waiting for a player to teamswitch / reconnect

This "I only like 6-man squad" nonsense needs to stop - Squads are now 8 men strong, move with the times.

I think an universal rule of "Unless you're flying something or part of a detached sniper team, do not lock." would be good.

Honestly, some kind of coding to prevent locking squads, and for example being able to only use assets if you select some specific option while making a squad (Most likely impossible to implement) would be good.
We need to stop running away from the new players, elitism is bad.

[sirfstar]

100p is not the problem for locked squads, the players are.

We've played like this for years and everything was fine, 100p comes in and now there is not enough squads obviously and don't tell me 100p is not the probem.
Influx that, influx this, blah-blah-blah clans asshats locking squads and all this ****.
It's a 2-sided stick, you do discriminate pubs with locked squads OR you do the same thing about clans and different language squads and its all the same, obviously not completed 100p support fault.
How about new players and crying pubs join clans instead of complaining?

[Archosaurus]

We've played like this for years and everything was fine, 100p comes in and now there is not enough squads obviously and don't tell me 100p is not the probem.
Influx that, influx this, blah-blah-blah clans asshats locking squads and all this ****.
It's a 2-sided stick, you do discriminate pubs with locked squads OR you do the same thing about clans and different language squads and its all the same, obviously not completed 100p support fault.

Can you rephrase that?

I don't understand how 100p is the problem. There were not enough squads before anyway when people locked them, and mind you, if you have 50 players on one team, and you have nine squads of 8 people you have 72 slots, and thus 22 slots that can be locked.

So what is the problem, unless more than 3 squads lock or something?

[sirfstar]

There were not enough squads before anyway when people locked them

It was too rare case happening when people locked 1-2 man squads. Now we have a bunch of asset squads people will not join because you know, its an ASSET squad, and some inf squads that may be locked at 4-5-6 and still not enough room. Alright, i'll open my squad if someone asks and let them learn some russian lol.