some answers

[JimmyKid1996]

It was only a matter of time before everything came out.

[Cossack]

I will attest to one thing. Viirus' brother DOES infact exist. Viirus banned his brother himself for being a troll. That is all I will offer on this.

Yeah, but his own attitude towards community cant be justified. I have seen numerous times he joins server, takes CAS squad and when gets killed, instantly leaves. That is not the way to behave.

My 2 cents :/

[=-=kittykiller]

[Wicca]

I suppose it test the fabric of the Community. There used to be alot more griefers in the past. Atleast from what I have experienced.

The sportsmanship, the gameplay. The rules that arent written. The social aspect of this game. The reason I fell in love with the game, was that eventhough this was an FPS, it was my personal RPG. Where my stats didnt show, nor my skill in leading, flying or shooting. But it was the direct output i used in game that made a difference.

People recognize you, join your squad, talk to you. You make these connections and bonds. Some are never broken, some turn into more than just an internet romance

I have the notion that some people just dont have the social ability to make friends with everyone on the playground. It might be a bad upbringing, lack of attention or the feeling of being lesser than your brothers. But the rest of us seem to have some ideas on how one should behave in the game. What is deemed apropriate and what is not. Even people who use allchat with caps lock enabled, screaming out "justice". In the name of justice do they want their vehicle, or their teams attention on what is at hand.

We all submit ourselfs to the social laws of this community, because it is a community. We dont have them written down, we consider it common sense. And are downright shocked, when someone abuses the gamemechanics, flaws and glitches to their advantage. Some go further more elaborate ways.

I will say this, the community as it stands today viirus, do not agree with your attitude or actions. You may have had skill, and you had recognition. But you never had that ability to envelope yourself in the thought behind the game. Be a soldier, experience warfare and have fun with your friends.

This is not bf2, this is not bf3 and it aint cod either. Its a community, we share a game, and a goal. That one game of PR, we all talk about. Noone will talk about how you rushed docks and killed all the germans, they want to supress that and make it go away.

If only your goal was to make great matches. And give great experiences to your squad and your team, then perhaps you would not have been here in the first place?

[Murphy]

Say what you want about Virus, but to call him "a bad sportsman" because he didn't give the enemy a free kill is quite foolish. If we apply that logic to everything else in the game why not just drop kits and walk up to the flag so the enemy can have a few kills and enjoy themselves. Sorry that point brought up by the video just seems like you want someone to stop playing HIS game and play the way YOU want him to, and life doesn't work like that. All those inf at docks and no HAT guy? If you want to talk about ruining a round point your finger towards the AT guys who decided to whine instead of kill.


Beyond that how do you expect him to turn over a new leaf if you can't even let him clear his conscience? I may not be your biggest fan Viruss but I respect you for manning up to your wrongs in such a public way. After reading this thread it's hard to say the community accepted the apology but taking the first step was important. I can only assume time will sort things out.

[Hulabi]

This isn't the first time "He's come clean", maybe the 7th time rather.

[Wicca]

Say what you want about Virus, but to call him "a bad sportsman" because he didn't give the enemy a free kill is quite foolish.

Yeah, thats why I called him a bad sportsman. *Claps Thats exactly what this is about. Creating a fair playing field between yourself and the enemy.

"Using 2 computers to man a tank." "Ghosting of twitch feed." "Avoiding bans." etc..

I have seen a video where players walk up to other players to get killed. It was OD-S Zombie night I belive. But that wasnt fun, infact that was such a waste of time noone wants to play zombie night, there isnt even a day-z minimod for PR now to prove that point.

Atleast viirus was there with his 50 cal thermals just letting the zombies hit the floor.

I mean really, are you also incapable of understanding social rules, acceptable behaviour and what the difference between a great round and a shit round is?

OD-S steamrolls map = Shit game.

OD-S teamswitches to create fair game = Great game.

But I guess we should all apply the logic you have, since we in no way share a game togehter, infact this is singeplayer with bots. And there is no consequnce.

" I wanna play it my way."

Huehuehue, ur funneh.

[Raic]

Say what you want about Virus, but to call him "a bad sportsman" because he didn't give the enemy a free kill is quite foolish. If we apply that logic to everything else in the game why not just drop kits and walk up to the flag so the enemy can have a few kills and enjoy themselves. Sorry that point brought up by the video just seems like you want someone to stop playing HIS game and play the way YOU want him to, and life doesn't work like that. All those inf at docks and no HAT guy? If you want to talk about ruining a round point your finger towards the AT guys who decided to whine instead of kill.


Beyond that how do you expect him to turn over a new leaf if you can't even let him clear his conscience? I may not be your biggest fan Viruss but I respect you for manning up to your wrongs in such a public way. After reading this thread it's hard to say the community accepted the apology but taking the first step was important. I can only assume time will sort things out.

While I agree that the video was bad example for anything, that is only a single episode and you can't use it to paint the whole picture. This dude has had his fair share of chances and will not be missed. He is known griefer, ghoster, glitcher, cheater and has incredibly obnoxious and shitty attitude towards everything. Seen him few times on servers and he deserves global ban just for the shit he sprouts out of his sad face. He is not welcome back no matter what he does. When you have multiple bans all under different aliases it's clear he is shady beyond what anyone here will find acceptable.

And I do not see what you find respectable here anyway, he is openly saying he is an crook and ******* and did not apologize for a single thing, on the contrary he believes everything he did was right. PR scene will be overall better off without him.

[=-=kittykiller]

7th apology



have been TK by him for running to asset

have been griefed by many of his nicknames, fake !r reports = t/o

never see him help his team unless he gets his chosen asset , see above

100 alias // Previous FCUK PR threads

When he gets caught he mans up to ,being a loser that plays PR obsesively but cant play with the other kids has to be superior in some way.

Ghosting one round ruins 2 hours of 60 players time. How many people have left PR thanx to his style of PR

(grief ,asset whore, ban/TO thanks to onside admin, ruin server/ ruin game)

thanks for the Thread and cYA!"

[WeeD-KilleR]

Say what you want about Virus, but to call him "a bad sportsman" because he didn't give the enemy a free kill is quite foolish.

Pretty sure that video is a great example. He rushed the Docks when the russians started to deploy the tropps. As you can see in the first second of the videos, the IDF was just capturing their first flag. Viirus and his driver rushed the enemies on their first flag totally out of the ordinary and yes a HAT guy missed him. But after that the russian side had NO chance what so ever getting their flag back when there is a IFV which is as strong as a tank....

In the end of the video you saw the IDF outcapping the russian. You call that a fair game? Keep in mind, sportsmanship includes fairness. This is by far not fair and just a really lame tactic.

[Anderson29]

I really doubt we will ever really be rid of him....hence his name, virus and that is exactly what he is. But it won't hurt to try I guess.

I really did lol when I first saw this thread....my thoughts were "I fucking knew it"

Virus: Good luck in life kid

[MasterX]

The funniest thing about this all is the part where he's saying that he's good in PR. Just because you have 40 - 0 kills in CAS? Try to run a full squad on the battlefield, giving everyone else a good time.

[Careless]

Video very related to this topic

(just replace every type of person with "sniper", "pretentious to-the-max-reality teamplayer", "caswhore", "assetswhore", etc..)

But in general virusii, the moves portrayed in the video are just jerk-moves.. But on the other hand, you can't ignore the hundreds of other jerks that do the same on Muttrah and other maps..

You accept the fact that other people play in a team, but you try to outlast them in some kind of way. Like literaly looking down upon them (see what I did there).. These are quite sociopathic moves you're undertaking.

You're not able to see your faults and errors until someones pushes your nose onto it, which is a symptom or a direct cause of incompentence.

To be honest, I have more or less the same problem. I get frustrated when I play in a squad, and the retarted squadleader or commander tells us to get a truck/boat and ride into a predictable location of prepared enemies in whoms eyes you're just an easy noob-prey.

Sometimes I too lose my shit, makes me want to just lonewolf or do some asswhoopin' all by myself. But then I realise that this kind of retartedness makes PR what it is, and I like it.

So let this topic be a lesson for everyone out there, who adores playing team-based games, but is uncomfortable with PLAYING AS A TEAM..


tl;dr: judging by the reply of the community, this is a sign to get your shit together bro

[TheSilencer]

*sigh*... I will speak as objectively as possible, because that is the code I live by.

I have played with Virus many times in the past year. He may have seriously fucked up many years ago for multiple years, but one thing I can tell you about Virus is what he has done and who he has tried to become this past year.

He loves getting loads of kills, he really really does. He doesn't go into a game with the mentality of trying to ruin a game. He doesn't want to make people have a bad time. His ONLY goal in PR is to kill as many people as he can. And to this day that's all Virus loves to do; kill the fuck out of the enemy team.

What I have to say about his recent ghosting incident:
In the US, we have cops that pretend to be drug dealers. If someone goes up to the officer, and asks for drugs, and the cop gives him the drugs, that person (who received the drugs) is in trouble. But, if the cop goes up to a person and OFFERS him drugs, and the person accepts, the COP gets in trouble. This is what happened when Trooper gave him the link. They didn't go looking for a way to ghost; they stupidly fell to the temptation that was offered by a person they trusted. IMO, both parties should have been punished: them for knowingly ghosting and Trooper giving them the link. He just didn't "happen" to be recording, he was trying to get them in trouble.

I hang with Virus in that TS "The Illuminati CAS Whore Alliance." After a round of complete steam rolling, Virus usually convinces everyone to switch teams to even the teams. We do this quite often. When I'm playing with him, for the past year I have never been heard or seen anything that looks like ghosting. He always plays legit and focuses on only killing the enemy, usually at an objective if we're playing INF. He doesn't play INF with people he doesn't know- usually he plays inf with me, we make a 2-man locked squad and kill enemies, denying them a flag sometimes. Like on Marlin the other day, at the T.V station, that is a fun flag to hold. Or T-buildings, he REALLY loves T-buildings. Especially the crooked T in Muttrah.

He gets upset when he doesn't do well, rages, and promptly leaves so he doesn't let a video game continue to make him mad.

I've never seen or heard him ghost when I'm around, and I'm around quite often.

All in all, he really has become someone who doesn't ghost, or grief this past year. He just loves to kill the fuck out of the enemy team.

Some of you are getting mad at him for winning. Most of you have quite the right to get mad at him for griefing or ghosting or ban-evading in the past. That is what he is saying, he is not trying to excuse it. But those of you who accuse him of hacking or ghosting or griefing now are wrong. He is by no means a team player, but he loves to help the team win by doing his personal best.

[Orford]

*sigh*... I will speak as objectively as possible, because that is the code I live by.

I have played with Virus many times in the past year. He may have seriously fucked up many years ago for multiple years, but one thing I can tell you about Virus is what he has done and who he has tried to become this past year.

He loves getting loads of kills, he really really does. He doesn't go into a game with the mentality of trying to ruin a game. He doesn't want to make people have a bad time. His ONLY goal in PR is to kill as many people as he can. And to this day that's all Virus loves to do; kill the fuck out of the enemy team.

What I have to say about his recent ghosting incident:
In the US, we have cops that pretend to be drug dealers. If someone goes up to the officer, and asks for drugs, and the cop gives him the drugs, that person (who received the drugs) is in trouble. But, if the cop goes up to a person and OFFERS him drugs, and the person accepts, the COP gets in trouble. This is what happened when Trooper gave him the link. They didn't go looking for a way to ghost; they stupidly fell to the temptation that was offered by a person they trusted. IMO, both parties should have been punished: them for knowingly ghosting and Trooper giving them the link. He just didn't "happen" to be recording, he was trying to get them in trouble.

I hang with Virus in that TS "The Illuminati CAS Whore Alliance." After a round of complete steam rolling, Virus usually convinces everyone to switch teams to even the teams. We do this quite often. When I'm playing with him, for the past year I have never been heard or seen anything that looks like ghosting. He always plays legit and focuses on only killing the enemy, usually at an objective if we're playing INF. He doesn't play INF with people he doesn't know- usually he plays inf with me, we make a 2-man locked squad and kill enemies, denying them a flag sometimes. Like on Marlin the other day, at the T.V station, that is a fun flag to hold. Or T-buildings, he REALLY loves T-buildings. Especially the crooked T in Muttrah.

He gets upset when he doesn't do well, rages, and promptly leaves so he doesn't let a video game continue to make him mad.

I've never seen or heard him ghost when I'm around, and I'm around quite often.

All in all, he really has become someone who doesn't ghost, or grief this past year. He just loves to kill the fuck out of the enemy team.

Some of you are getting mad at him for winning. Most of you have quite the right to get mad at him for griefing or ghosting or ban-evading in the past. That is what he is saying, he is not trying to excuse it. But those of you who accuse him of hacking or ghosting or griefing now are wrong. He is by no means a team player, but he loves to help the team win by doing his personal best.

He convinces you to switch teams as the other team has the stronger CAS in the next round.

2 man locked squad for the purposes of team work, helping the team and getting his rocks off killing the fuck out of the enemy more like. how about squad leading and sharing some of his self confessed killing the fuck out of the enemy skills. Nope they would just slow his KD gain down.

He helps the team win by doing any thing possible to achive the highest KD even to the point of camping the enemy main with his jet and killing the enemy CAS before it has a chance of getting any altitude. Then he is free to again kill the fuck out of the enemy.

Thanks for supporting the opinion of the community and being the 2nd man in his 2 man squad proves to me that you both have the same view for this game. I would suggest backing up and distancing yourself.

[TheSilencer]

No no no, you seem to be confused Orford, and placing words in my mouth that aren't mine. We 2-man squad because he is bad at squad leading big squads and prefers to play with people he knows.. He's admitted that to me. Also, When we switch it doesn't matter what the map is. Like on marlin, we switched to MEC (ojn marlin) because the US was spanked (on kashan).

Also, you said exactly what I said. We 2 man squad to kill shit loads of enemies as inf. But does that not help the team?

So please, get off your high horse and don't place things I never said into my statement. I don't support the communities opinion, nor do I support what Virus has done in the past.

All I am attesting to is that Virus has sopped griefing and ghosting and does try to balance the teams. He has literally said that to me many times. "Hey, let's switch to even the teams." All the time.

You highlighting what I've said only proves to me that you are the type of person who only selects what he wants to hear because anything that is against his view is automatically wrong. Open your eyes, broaden your perspective, and stop bashing and do something productive instead of getting butt-hurt over a game.

You are judging him on the character he used to be instead of the person he is trying to become.

[Psyrus]

You are judging him on the character he used to be instead of the person he is trying to become.

I don't care either way in this thread, E-drama is far too trivial for me. That being said, I'd just like to point out that the above statement is how it naturally will occur. The former (used to be) is based on evidence and experience, and the latter (trying to become) is based on hopes and aspirations, and thus it's natural that someone will be judged upon the former until such a time that the latter becomes the present.

[TheSilencer]

Yep. And that is why I pointed it out. Thank you.

[dtacs]

Where's Fall, Valts?

[chrisweb89]

I don't like him personally and I'm pretty sure he doesn't like me, but that's just personalities. My even larger hatred comes from his game play style. I know he doesn't hack, and I've never accused him of that. I do know however that he is the most recognizable name when it comes to lowest of the low tactics. If you're on a server(Any server because he jumps between them so much), and you get camped leaving main when there aren't any flags or any reasons to be nearby, my and many others first thoughts is "oh, looks like virus is here". Had this happen way to much, and all since he joined CIA, when I had to play there to get my PR fix.

I play hard and rush flags, but I also know when its not even worth the effort because the other team is derp, or when to back off and let the round continue. Its a tactic that I think PR needs to keep people sharp, and except for some unbalanced maps is very stoppable even by a mediocre team with a good roll out.

On camping bases though I feel the complete opposite. Everyone has seen multiple times either virus on their team hovering over the other team's base on kashan, or their own team getting engaged at 500 alt over their main and the wreckage falling right back to the runway. That is what virus will be remembered for, by me and I don't forgive easily, and if I do it takes a long time.