*NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

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Delta1292
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by Delta1292 »

Spam is defined as non-relevant information, be it spam mail, spam emails or spam chat - that is a definition and not an opinion. When you have to admin a server 24/7 you will very quickly get irritated by people cluttering up the all chat with useless non relevant information (spam), hence why we have a no spamming rule. This rule is also enforced between rounds over mumble (even the devs have implemented an auto mute on map loads...). Moreover, it doesn't really matter what you believe is chatter or is annoying as, thankfully, you are not an admin on our server.

That being said I will have a chat with Beanie and ask him to be slightly more considerate in the future.
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NyteMyre
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by NyteMyre »

you will very quickly get irritated by people cluttering up the all chat with useless non relevant information (spam)
I play PR since 0.5 and i have never been irritated with small talk in /all chat. Why you ask? Because i have the ability to filter important chatter from the non-important chatter.

I'm in an infantry squad in H12, someone reports enemy in A1... NON-RELEVANT INFORMATION for me.... so ignore that. Enemy in H11...now THAT is useful. And i can see that fine between a conversation about which CoD game is better.
his rule is also enforced between rounds over mumble
Why, because you rather sit in silence meditating till the next level is loaded? I like having conversations between maps, joking around and sharing a laugh. I think it's an important thing for the community to chat. To enforce a STFU-zone is just a bad move.

thankfully, you are not an admin on our server.

The only people who complain about spam are the admins, and not the players.
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Delta1292
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by Delta1292 »

Firstly here is a medal I made in paint just for you:

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Right now that we have established the fact you have played PR for a long time we can actually get down to business. You might have the ability to filter the chat for relevant info pertaining to yourself, however, as an admin we have to watch and filter all the chat, the scrolling admin messages, the team balance, and 3 comms channels (mumble squad, mumble SL, and TS3) to name but a few reasons why we dislike spam.

To entertain your little boys own adventure scenario any information pertaining to the location of the enemy is useful and relevant.

We do not enforce a STFU zone during round loads, the devs did that for us (mumble auto mutes during round load if you haven't noticed). Furthermore, it is not what you would like that is important it is what the other 97 people in mumble would like, and going by your persistence in a rather tedious debate I presume they would prefer it if you were to keep quiet. It is important for the PR community to chat and for all those involved in the community to develop friendships and rapport with each other, however, there is a time and place for this, either in your own squad (so you aren't bothering the other 97 players on the server) or right here in the realitymod forums.

Furthermore, perhaps your last comment is due to the fact that you have never had the experience of administrating a full PR server, but maybe the fact that "only admins complain about spam" is due to the fact that they have a lot more information to "filter" and cutting down on the useless chat helps them to admin in a more effective and efficient manner
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ExeTick
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by ExeTick »

just because you are not bothered about all chat spam doesnt mean admins or other people is.

I get frustrated when all chat is filled with non game related things. specially when someone is asking me or other admins something.
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NyteMyre
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by NyteMyre »

All i'm saying is (and especially to this TheBeanie guy): "Chill the fuck out!"

So some players have a little conversation in chat....do not start to be all "I-am-the-mighty-admin-and-you-will-obey" over it.
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Delta1292
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by Delta1292 »

Yeah will speak to him, and hopefully next time you are on our server things will be more chilled.

Glad you liked the medal :)
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Wicca
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by Wicca »

I would also like a medal. I have played since 0.6
Xact Wicca is The Joker. That is all.
Pronck
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by Pronck »

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Here you go Wicca.

*NwA* B.Pronk
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Wicca
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by Wicca »

Thanks, Ill add it to my portifolia of other medals and awards. Man, that thing is getting cramped now.
Xact Wicca is The Joker. That is all.
Pronck
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by Pronck »

Just had a great game on the US team on Ramiel (Insurgency) I want to thank all the squadleaders on the US team for the good teamwork!

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DDS
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by DDS »

Delta1292 wrote:Spam is defined as non-relevant information, be it spam mail, spam emails or spam chat..
we have a no spamming rule...
This is high on my list of what makes a good server. I'm there to play a game, not be distracted by all the useless chatter. Thanks for enforcing this.

Tactical Gamer was an Excellent Server. Yeah that's right, I said that, go a head and BAN ME from your server now!
thebeanie
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by thebeanie »

I have just seen the latest replies in this thread and wish to add a few things.

The only time I have said stop the mumble spam at the end of the game is when it gets way to much. And even then I am aware i cannot enforce it as its only my oppinion that it is highly annoying.

Furthermore I have NEVER threatened to ban somebody... I have been admin a couple month now and have never fully banned anyone and only TB'd a few people and that was for too much TK.

Secondly, I do enforce the CHAT spam when it gets too much... The game is there to be played and when people are having full blown conversations over global chat its abit much. Especially when I'm trying to keep an eye out for reports and other stuff.
Takeda
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by Takeda »

Guys, make smt with lack of Admins. I liked pre 1.0 NwA but these days are ****. You are loosing your "brad", when server crashes so often, and there's no admin = GB camping outside INS main and other russian server like free-will. Also playing Basrah -> Burning -> Mutrah is a bit booring ;d.
rebane24
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by rebane24 »

they have only same maps. Muttrah + al bas :)
ExeTick
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by ExeTick »

feel free to make a maplist so we can change it.

only reason basrah is played is because it is a good seeding map, And almost all our admins are working or studying during the morning hours and our admins (atleast me) are getting very tierd of the constant server crashes.
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Pronck
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by Pronck »

Takeda wrote:Guys, make smt with lack of Admins. I liked pre 1.0 NwA but these days are ****. You are loosing your "brad", when server crashes so often, and there's no admin = GB camping outside INS main and other russian server like free-will. Also playing Basrah -> Burning -> Mutrah is a bit booring ;d.
There a are a few reasons why there are not always admins online. One of them is real-life occupations like work, family, children, holiday etc. you know the drill. About server crashes, well as far as I know every server crashes a lot, some maybe a little bit more then others. When the admins aren't online then it will follow the map rotation, which needs and I agree with that, a change since it's getting pretty boring and contacting admins over TS isn't always successful because with a DayZ Server also needing supervision most admins are already occupied.

If you see any rule breakers, record it, make a screenshot and report it on the forums. The admins unfortunately don't have the time to spit trough every BR file. It will make sure people think twice about breaking the rules when there's no admin.

And for the lack of admins, well some people don't want to be an admin or simply aren't made for the job (like me). I for example made a shot at it and I noticed that it isn't something for me since I lose my temper very fast especially since there some c**** in the PR community whom like to piss people off and benefit from their reactions. I noticed that being an admin is not a very fun job to do even though I was one for a very, very short time. That means that not everyone is eager to apply for it.

I hope this explains enough why some things may have occurred. In case you need immediate help, jump on our TS and look for an admin and ask if he can help.
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GlaDi
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by GlaDi »

B.Pronk(NL) wrote:There a are a few reasons why there are not always admins online. One of them is real-life occupations like work, family, children, holiday etc. you know the drill. About server crashes, well as far as I know every server crashes a lot, some maybe a little bit more then others. When the admins aren't online then it will follow the map rotation, which needs and I agree with that, a change since it's getting pretty boring and contacting admins over TS isn't always successful because with a DayZ Server also needing supervision most admins are already occupied.

If you see any rule breakers, record it, make a screenshot and report it on the forums. The admins unfortunately don't have the time to spit trough every BR file. It will make sure people think twice about breaking the rules when there's no admin.

And for the lack of admins, well some people don't want to be an admin or simply aren't made for the job (like me). I for example made a shot at it and I noticed that it isn't something for me since I lose my temper very fast especially since there some c**** in the PR community whom like to piss people off and benefit from their reactions. I noticed that being an admin is not a very fun job to do even though I was one for a very, very short time. That means that not everyone is eager to apply for it.

I hope this explains enough why some things may have occurred. In case you need immediate help, jump on our TS and look for an admin and ask if he can help.

Another reason is GTA V :-P
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Takeda
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by Takeda »

I understand that, but there were a few cases where admin, just left after server crash, and went to another. Its ok, their will, but at least they can change shownext, before they leave.
Nwa >0.98 was better, dunno why, but it was smt special about teamwork on server. And i miss Jevski. He was ******* sometimes but he rly took care about server imho.

See you on the battlefield ;)
Delta1292
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by Delta1292 »

Maplist can be changed, however, from experience Basrah seeds the server best out of all the maps (including skirmish/infantry layer/whatever other maps).

With admins, we cannot make people admins, if clan members want to contribute then they can come forward and ask to be an admin, however, even with the large number of admins we have many of them are getting tired of the PR Community, if you join our server you do not have an immediate right to be switched immediately when you ask or have a say in what the next map is or to argue with the admins, you chose to join the server so be polite, it costs nothing. If I join the server I spend most of my time doing nothing but switching people, sorting out people camping main bases, sorting out people stealing assets, etc. because most of the time people do not bother to read the rules so inevitably it goes into an argument and I speak personally here but I'm fed up with it. Myself and the other admins pay for the server to have somewhere where we can game and have fun, we do not pay to sit and babysit people who simply can't be bothered to read or comply with the rules.

And about Server crashes, well what can I say, we are playing a very heavily modified game it happens. Our server is set up and configured correctly so there is not a lot we can do other than let it restart and play another map.

As a final note, what I said above is not directed at anyone but my honest opinion of what it is like to be admining the server. It is not a whine or *****, it is a statement of the reality of admining.
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Takeda
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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)

Post by Takeda »

Delta1292 wrote:if you join our server you do not have an immediate right to be switched immediately when you ask or have a say in what the next map is or to argue with the admins, you chose to join the server so be polite, it costs nothing. If I join the server I spend most of my time doing nothing but switching people
I thought that there is some kind of "script" that matches ppl with same tag together. For instance on DRK we have never problem with switching, coz we are always in same team right from start.

huh?
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