Give transport trucks the ability of carrying one small crate

[Death!]

Well, they can carry 4 ammo boxes... Why not give them the possibility of droping a single crate like the fast choppers do?

[Nybble]

When I first read this I thought it was a bad idea, because it seemed like change for the sake of change.

However when thinking about it I realized this could be a good idea, as a full squad would be able to take a single truck and be able to construct a fob, without dragging a logi truck along as well.

All to often I spawn at a FOB and find a logi truck dumped there because the builders had finished with it and only taken the transport truck.

Maybe the trans truck could carry a small crate, and logi trucks could gain some more functionality that the commander could take advantage of?

[Psyrus]

I realized this could be a good idea, as a full squad would be able to take a single truck and be able to construct a fob, without dragging a logi truck along as well.

One small crate alone can't be used to create a fob, to the best of my knowledge. You need 2 of the small ones (or one large one)

[Rhino]

One small crate alone can't be used to create a fob, to the best of my knowledge. You need 2 of the small ones (or one large one)

Ye, if the Support Trucks where given a "Light Supply Crate" then you would need two of them to build a FO, otherwise it would only be good for ammo resupply.
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-p ... dates.html

Rhino;1884767']Light Supply Crate

As mentioned in the Devcast we have made a new logistics crate called the "Light Supply Crate" (LSC) and so far is only carried by the Light Transport/Utility Helicopters. For all intensive purposes, this crate is half a normal "Heavy Supply Crate", which is the supply crate you are all use to seeing in PR. By this I mean the Light Supply Crate has half the ammo resupply of a Heavy Supply Crate and you need twice as many of these Light Supply Crates in order to deploy any assets. So for example you need two of these Light Supply Crates in order to deploy a Forward Outpost and four are required to deploy any additional assets/weapons. You can still request kits off of this crate just like a normal Heavy Supply Crate. This essentially means that the Light Transport Helicopters can still do simple resupply missions on their own to out of the way squads, but in order to deploy any assets, they either need to team up with another Light Chopper, both dropping off their crates at the same location or need to make two trips in order to deploy a Forward Outpost.

[Walmarx]

I like this idea. Too often precious Logistics Trucks are taken by other squads to less-than-optimal positions, or lost to careless route planning. This would allow the truly determined squad leader another means to obtain supplies, albeit at a much slower rate, as a second round-trip would be necessary if only one truck is used. The only conflict to gameplay that comes to mind would be early-round Muttrah, wherein the MEC could begin fortifying positions before capping South City to spawn Logis.

[Jafar Ironclad]

The other issue to bear in mind is that light supply crates confer the ability to request and obtain kits.

[Murkey]

It sounds like a good idea and is worth discussion.

However if each trans truck had 1 Light Supply Crate there isn't much to stop a squad taking 2, leaving people without transport, thus defeating the point of having trucks filling different roles.

Although saying that 2 squads could work together to deploy then meet up to build a fob.

Another issues is, as Jafar said, the ability to request kits. Making a trans truck everything a lonewolf, sniper type would need.

In conclusion, worth considering but may have unintended consequences.

[Heavy Death]

The other issue to bear in mind is that light supply crates confer the ability to request and obtain kits.

And for the sake of that, which would yield more HAT/AA/Whateveryouneedthatverysecond kits, id say that 4 small ones stay.

[UTurista]

BAD IDEA

I think I can say that all Project reality pilots wouldn't agree with this idea.

Even at the moment with the light choppers and such the transport pilot has very little action, only in the begging we have the team rush, but after that we can stay in the helipad for very long time.

By permitting more vehicles to carry supplies you're reducing the action for the transport pilot which will cause less and less (good) pilots to use it (the trans chopper).

If we now we have crates on the truck why would we care about good trans pilots? Well eventually in every scenario is always necessary a pilot but now every single one is to bored to wait for that situation and you'll see yourself on a bad situation.

tl :d t:
Transport Pilots is a slow job and reducing the crate demand is BAD.

[Brainlaag]

I don't support this idea, gives each squad too much self sufficiency.

[Gracler]

Like Brain says it defeats some of the teamwork, and it is a golden truck for lone-wolves so it should continue to be 4 ammo boxes which is actually really nice to begin with.

Even though there is mostly only 2 logitrucks they are often left right next to a fob, so if someone needs it they get a dead guy to spawn there and bring it home. If the Fob gets destroyed then the logi truck is mostly also destroyed then it respawns rather quick in main.

ps. If only the purposes could be swapped between the covered and non-covered truck, so that troops would be "obscured" by the covered one and the crates could be seen on the flatbed so you know instantly if it is empty or not. I know it isn't as simple as it sounds but it has always been weird to me

[Jamesfredette]

I guess choppers are better then trucks..they provide better maneuverability and prove to be fast..howver they can't carry that much load as the trucks.

[Mats391]

i think a better idea would be to give it as a choice for APCs that currently have 4 ammo boxes.

[Frontliner]

I sort of think this is worthy of discussion, but mainly because of the ability to request kits and give a bit of ammunition rather than FOB constructing. Another thing to keep in mind is that only very few vehicles even carry the LightSC, so they are quite rare on the field, but if trans get an LSC too, you might see combined work like this:

Squad A boards chopper and goes to point X.
Squad B as a whole gets into a trans and goes to X as well.
Chopper drops LSC. Squad A captures point X and moves on to point Y.
Squad B arrives, builds an FOB using both LSC, then proceeds to follow A.

[Ca6e]

Actually i like this idea! Its more realistic, cause also IRL when u go into the first lines with truck u fill it with a whole lot of stuffs, from food, weapons, ammo, and i mean everything.

I would like to see that, so logistic trucks, become even more for logistic support only, that mean supplying heavy fobs, mortars positoins,...

As we saw it many times, almost every sq take logi and the truck, so soon in the main there is no truck for mortars sq, or sq building heavy assets fob.

I think it will make game more dynamic.

[Death!]

I think I can say that all Project reality pilots wouldn't agree with this idea.

Even at the moment with the light choppers and such the transport pilot has very little action, only in the begging we have the team rush, but after that we can stay in the helipad for very long time.

Transport Pilots is a slow job and reducing the crate demand is BAD.

Pilots get back to base, trucks pretty much always won't unless destroyed -- they stay abandoned as inf dies. Don't worry about it.

However if each trans truck had 1 Light Supply Crate there isn't much to stop a squad taking 2, leaving people without transport, thus defeating the point of having trucks filling different roles.

Although saying that 2 squads could work together to deploy then meet up to build a fob.

Another issues is, as Jafar said, the ability to request kits. Making a trans truck everything a lonewolf, sniper type would need.

In conclusion, worth considering but may have unintended consequences.

Servers should deal with it, maybe put a rule like forbiding one-maning trucks unless taking them back to base as it is with APCs already. I always thought abandoning the transport trucks or humvees to be destroyed by the enemy when reaching the destination point and wasting tickets a bad thing, with the truck being a mini-logi, they will be more valuable.

i think a better idea would be to give it as a choice for APCs that currently have 4 ammo boxes.

That is worth to think about too.

[Gracler]

I guess choppers are better then trucks..they provide better maneuverability and prove to be fast..howver they can't carry that much load as the trucks.

All the heavy choppers like chinook, mv22 and even the Mi-17 hip can carry the same or more than the medium trucks that are used in PR. So yes choppers are often the best choise although they make a lot of noise and can easily be spotted and shot down.

i think a better idea would be to give it as a choice for APCs that currently have 4 ammo boxes.

It would be a good addition to the apc, but it is already cramped for space so how can it realistically fit inside it? I suppose the combined space taken by 2-3 ammo boxes is almost the same but they are easier to use as floor lining than one bigger box.
The big advantage of the apc is that it is never abandoned like the logitruck so you have a crate that is mobile all the time like the helicopters.

I sort of think this is worthy of discussion, but mainly because of the ability to request kits and give a bit of ammunition rather than FOB constructing. Another thing to keep in mind is that only very few vehicles even carry the LightSC, so they are quite rare on the field, but if trans get an LSC too, you might see combined work like this:

Squad A boards chopper and goes to point X.
Squad B as a whole gets into a trans and goes to X as well.
Chopper drops LSC. Squad A captures point X and moves on to point Y.
Squad B arrives, builds an FOB using both LSC, then proceeds to follow A.

The battlefield is already littered with "requested kits" from apcs and crates dropped by choppers and logi-trucks. It is supposed to be a "preparation" when people select there initial kit, not something you change whenever you like just because you brought your own truck.

Actually i like this idea! Its more realistic, cause also IRL when u go into the first lines with truck u fill it with a whole lot of stuffs, from food, weapons, ammo, and i mean everything.

I would like to see that, so logistic trucks, become even more for logistic support only, that mean supplying heavy fobs, mortars positoins,...

As we saw it many times, almost every sq take logi and the truck, so soon in the main there is no truck for mortars sq, or sq building heavy assets fob.

I think it will make game more dynamic.

That is exactly what the transport truck contains... extra ammo like extra LAT, HAT AA and other fire and forget weapons, but why would you swap your personal rifle every 2 minutes when all it needs is ammo?

all you need to make mortars is 2 crates that you can ask from whoever "stole" the first truck and then you can "borrow" a transport truck to give yourself extra ammo.

[Hurricane]

However if each trans truck had 1 Light Supply Crate there isn't much to stop a squad taking 2, leaving people without transport, thus defeating the point of having trucks filling different roles. [...]
In conclusion, worth considering but may have unintended consequences.

That was my first thought as well. Even nowadays transport trucks are being solo'd or used by a 2-man recon team who park it in the middle of nowhere. Giving the truck a light supply crate would make it more valuable for lone-wolfing guys.

i think a better idea would be to give it as a choice for APCs that currently have 4 ammo boxes.

We can already request kits on the vehicle itself, and it carries ammo boxes. I don't see why APCs should get logistical capabilities.


All in all, it sounds like an interesting change but I would't fiddle with the logistics ingame too much. I think the segregation between transport and logistics is there for a reason, and we should stick with it.

[Gracler]

We can already request kits on the vehicle itself, and it carries ammo boxes. I don't see why APCs should get logistical capabilities.

The point would be to create a forward fob, with the help of maybe 2 apc's. But overall I don't feel like we need more logistics either so it is good the way it is now.

[Darman1138]

I'd keep it as is. I like calling in a chopper to drop supplies. No chopper? Work around it. Find a way to get supplies. IRL the military doesn't have everything handed to them and there are hardships that people run into and have to find ways to overcome. Whether that means calling in TRANS or running back to get a Logi, it's something that presents a challenge we have to overcome to obtain victory.