How to prevent bots from using AA

[dine344]

Hello everyone.

I was wondering is there any way to prevent bots from using AA? I wanted to practice flying and bomb dropping on Kashan, but I have problem with doing that. When my team is loosing, I just get destroyed before I see enemy, and when my team is winning, I cant find any targets. So the perfect solution would be to 'help' the enemy team at first, and then just destroy the enemy while being safe from dying.
I guess being completely ignored by bots will also be good solution. But I have no idea how to make this, could you help me?

[Wheres_my_chili]

You could try bombing the friendly bots if all else fails.

[dine344]

You could try bombing the friendly bots if all else fails.

Thanks for the quick reply.

Yeah I tried that obviously, but your team just starts to loose so quickly, and thats the problem.

But I just thought of putting just one bot in the enemy team, and the rest in mine, should be fine.

Anyway, if anyone knows answer to my first question it would be nice.

[Ca6e]

U know evading the AA comes before bombing in "learning how to fly"! Try to evade and bomb, thats the next stage!

And u have flares, use them. And try to use them before u get locked.

[Moszeusz6Pl]

The thing is the bots are really OP in case of AA. If you want to only play single player, you can just delete it from GameplayObjects.con(pr/levels/Kashan_Desert/server.zip/Gamemodes/coop/64/) Find all aav, and delete it(left spawner empty). If you want to still play in mp, copy map. You will have two maps with same name, but just try with one is correct, or change in name in kashan_desert/info/kashan_desert.con(one betwen <name></name>. You can also increase ticket of your team massively, so you won't lose to fast.

[Furst]

Install an older PR version and enjoy the mighty Training mode! Best environment to practice and to get into the game without annoying Bot stuff or weird commands to type in.

[Fastjack]

It is possible, that bots ignoring you but i believe (idk if you have any knowledge about modding) it's out of your range todo that.
I mounted longtime ago clive's Osprey before PR integrated it to PR1.0 on Karbala.
I was wondering, why bots didn't shoot me and i find out that clive created a new vehicle type ai for the Osprey (VTOL) and PR hasn't before any VTOL ai.
The bots wasn't able to identify the Osprey as valid target.

I changed the "ObjectTemplate.vehicleCategory VTOL" to "ObjectTemplate.vehicleCategory VCHelicopter" of the Osprey and enemy bots was able to identify the Osprey as an helicopter. I don't remember if i changed something in the objects.ai of the Osprey too but i believe i made some changes. I think i used the cobra ai too for the pilot and gunner.

Another way todo it:

You can modify the GPO and change the vehicle spawner that spawns AA vehicles and replace them with other vehicles.
Problem is, you cannot make changes in the original map or you loose the ability to play online because you modified Kashan and PB will kick you for MD5.

Best way:

You clone Kashan and modify the GPO and replace everytime, if you want to train your pilotskill, the original kashan with your modified Kashan map.
The Original kashan cannot exist in the same place with your modified Kashan, so put the original map in a safetyfolder and drop your modified map into the levelsfolder. If you want to play online again, remove your trainingsmap (drag and drop it to your desktop) and put the original from the safetyfolder back to the levelsfolder of PR.
Additionally, make a second copy of Kashan as backuop before you screw something up.

Edit: Got ninja'd by Moszeusz6pl

Edit 2:
Bombing your targets can be a little complicated because some of the atgm's or bombs need a laser target object or your bombs scattering around.
In PR, some kits can laze targets and attaching a laser target object to the enemy vehicle. That laser target objects guiding the bomb directly to the target so a better solution would be if you change some (not all) vehicles spawners with vbf2 vehicles. This vehicles have as standard a laser target object attached to it and can simulate that a friendly lazed that vehicle before.

[matty1053]

You can also, find out who is using AAV's by joining the enemy team. Then typing:

Code: Select all

rcon kill [insertnameofbotusingAAVhere]

Make sure you do rcon debug in order for that to work.

[titsmcgee852]

Or download the test airfield map

[MaSSive]

Or download the test airfield map

^ This

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f354-c ... eased.html

[Cassius]

Speaking of training, any server owner kind enough to put up some kind of aerial warfare map for jets?

[melonmuncher]

There's two maps in the current release with no AA
Kashan Alt, only has f18s and migs but can be good practice for the faster jets.

And Khamisiyah Std. There's only ZPU cannons to worry about for the US, but MEC has no trouble. though there's going to be AA in the mains with the next patch. You can practice Su-25 dumb bombs easily enough.

[dine344]

Thanks guys, lots of unique and really good ideas. Will try modifying Kashan map today.

Also

The thing is the bots are really OP in case of AA.

I was afraid to admit that, but that is true. It is why it hurts so much when your team is loosing, AA vehicles are everywhere and it is so hard to dodge them.

Anyway, I think my problem is solved, so thanks for that.

btw - I have another little question - is it possible to dodge already missile that is locked and flying towards you? I will have to learn that if thats possible.

[Fastjack]

btw - I have another little question - is it possible to dodge already missile that is locked and flying towards you? I will have to learn that if thats possible.

Yes and No.

Missiles will always go for the closest heatsignature, doesn't matter if the missile locked on you or the flares. BF2 engine.

If a missile locked on you from behind and you get in time a flare heatobject between you and the missile, you have good chances to survive it.
Also important the distance of the explosion and your vehicle. AA missiles have a big explosionradius and are really fast.

If you fly frontal into a missile attack, you will allways fail because your air vehicles heatobject is between your flares and the missile.

Bots in AAV vehicles aren't OP - they are godlike!
I will not remember how many times a SU-25 dropped their dumb bombs directly into my face on Kashan.

[MaSSive]

I will not remember how many times a SU-25 dropped their dumb bombs directly into my face on Kashan.

I was thinking a bit about that. I think that if they spot you, you become automatically 'laser designated' for AI operating jet, and the result is imminent, you see a FAB for a second flying towards you and BAM - you're dead. Though depending what you were in. Abrams can survive one bomb if its not damaged, second one is lethal.