Release Iraqi Insurgency mode is not fun :/

fabioxxxx · Post by **fabioxxxx** » 2013-08-31 21:37

XP ... againt injustice

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2013-08-31 22:03

fabioxxxx wrote:Just played basha ... no mortar for insurgents ... haha... "no no we are not nerfing insurgents, stop that or i will call my mommy"

You and your sock-puppet that started this thread are still at it?

Post by **camo** » 2013-09-01 10:51

The worst thing about insurgency now/always is that the civi kit is completely no fun, you can't attack anyone, all you do is heal. If you try and have fun by grouping up and annoying enemy squads someone shoots and arrests you with a shotgun which is just completely unrealistic and game breaking. The reason insurgents are having such a hard time winning is because no one can get a heal or revive because no one wants to go as a civi. Just remove the shotguns ability to arrest with a shotgun and insurgency will be fun again.

ghostfool84 · Post by **ghostfool84** » 2013-09-01 23:05

An alternative civi would be nice also who can not die as martyr but use a pistol. Sure there are a few people who like to play civi, but most dont..thats why you see not many medics in insurgency and medic is the number one reason for people to squad up...so that they can be revived and dont have to spawn.

[508th_PIR] Grey · Post by **[508th_PIR] Grey** » 2013-09-02 11:06

ghostfool84 wrote:An alternative civi would be nice also who can not die as martyr but use a pistol.

That's not a civi. That's an armed combatant.

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2013-09-02 12:00

'[508th_PIR wrote: Grey;1944904']That's not a civi. That's an armed combatant.

"Civi" isn't a "civi" either, just an unarmed combatant. Which has always been the problem with this mode.

ghostfool84 · Post by **ghostfool84** » 2013-09-02 12:34

Yeah you are right, thats not a civi, its more like a medic, of course ROE Rules and everything would not count for them.

Pronck · Post by **Pronck** » 2013-09-02 13:24

With the civilians you can do what the taliban and insurgents do so often, act as civilians but at the same time support the insurgency with intel.

Post by **Ason** » 2013-09-02 14:31

I'm just curious, what do you mean by "Release Iraqi Insurgency mode is not fun" ?
Was there some gamemode called "Iraqi Insurgency" before that you want them to realese again?

[508th_PIR] Grey · Post by **[508th_PIR] Grey** » 2013-09-02 15:59

Mrslobodan wrote:I'm just curious, what do you mean by "Release Iraqi Insurgency mode is not fun" ?
Was there some gamemode called "Iraqi Insurgency" before that you want them to realese again?

With the v1.0 release, the Iraqi Insurgent faction received a significant overhaul.

matty1053 · Post by **matty1053** » 2013-09-04 20:31

I would say that the fact is, insurgents are a easy faction to play.
A lot of times people say: "ins is the best... blah"
Well, I noticed more and more, is people derping around in Insurgency.
I can't seem to get it to my head, but wonder why insurgency isn't voted much.

tankninja1 · Post by **tankninja1** » 2013-09-04 21:22

camo_jnr_jnr wrote: If you try and have fun by grouping up and annoying enemy squads someone shoots and arrests you with a shotgun which is just completely unrealistic and game breaking... just remove the shotguns ability to arrest with a shotgun and insurgency will be fun again.

Then again neither is punching a civi with a restrainer in your hand. Or civis running into mortars that have been falling for long periods of time. Or a civilian intentionally standing in harms way. Or a civilian being a civilian 2 inches from a gunman without a gun to a civivs head.

Shotgun arrests are just a way to balance the game so far as I know.

P.S. Shotguns arresting civis isn't a new feature of insurgency been around for as long as I can remember. Also maybe add beanbag rounds?

Gracler · Post by **Gracler** » 2013-09-04 22:15

camo_jnr_jnr wrote:The worst thing about insurgency now/always is that the civi kit is completely no fun, you can't attack anyone, all you do is heal. If you try and have fun by grouping up and annoying enemy squads someone shoots and arrests you with a shotgun which is just completely unrealistic and game breaking. The reason insurgents are having such a hard time winning is because no one can get a heal or revive because no one wants to go as a civi. Just remove the shotguns ability to arrest with a shotgun and insurgency will be fun again.

The civi is the most fun class the insurgents have. You punish the enemy for shooting you by resetting there score and mess up there respawn timer etc.

The shotgun kits are limited so you will only see one out of every 4-8 players and if you have a friend with you he can quickly kill the "breacher" first then you can annoy the rest.

Removing the shotgun ability to arrest then you are allowing all kind of stupid odd behavior like dancing on tanks and apc's etc.

Just use your rope and get onto a roof and hide if there is a breacher around. If he tries to catch you up there then you steal his rope

its weird why an unarmed civi has a phone now and the collaborator kit don't though... why can a civi afford a phone and not a collaborator?

007.SirBond · Post by **007.SirBond** » 2013-09-04 22:34

Gracler wrote:The civi is the most fun class the insurgents have. You punish the enemy for shooting you by resetting there score and mess up there respawn timer etc.

The shotgun kits are limited so you will only see one out of every 4-8 players and if you have a friend with you he can quickly kill the "breacher" first then you can annoy the rest.

Removing the shotgun ability to arrest then you are allowing all kind of stupid odd behavior like dancing on tanks and apc's etc.

Just use your rope and get onto a roof and hide if there is a breacher around. If he tries to catch you up there then you steal his rope

its weird why an unarmed civi has a phone now and the collaborator kit don't though... why can a civi afford a phone and not a collaborator?

There was a exploit people could abuse when civies had a cellphone and played as squad leader.

obpmgmua · Post by **obpmgmua** » 2013-09-07 22:18

Yeah Insurgents got nerfed hard. I specially hate it that to be useful you have to get a bolt action rifle. Which is shit for combat. Shouldn't the Mosin and Enfield be zeroed to 600m like their scoped counter parts? and not 300m like the aks and g3s? Also I don't mind taking the Sks from the sapper but I do mind it when you took the small IEDS.

Pronck · Post by **Pronck** » 2013-09-08 12:19

007.SirBond wrote:There was a exploit people could abuse when civies had a cellphone and played as squad leader.

Exploit? It was a feature! And they should bring it back!

Mikemonster · Post by **Mikemonster** » 2013-09-08 22:59

Yeah, it actually made you value your life whilst also dobbing on the enemy.

epicelite · Post by **epicelite** » 2013-09-26 16:09

tankninja1 wrote:Shotgun arrests are just a way to balance the game so far as I know.

P.S. Shotguns arresting civis isn't a new feature of insurgency been around for as long as I can remember. Also maybe add beanbag rounds?

The problem with shotguns is players using them and giving NO FUCKS about what they are shooting because theirs no penalty if they hit a civilian as opposed to a insurgent. I play as a civy, stay in the compound with my team. I stand near the doorway and let a insurgent hide behind me, and some breacher just runs in and blasts us both with his shotgun and gets REWARDED for violating the ROE.

I keep posting about beanbag rounds in the "suggestions" forums but it never gets accepted by a mod, everyone should go spam it till one thread makes it through.

obpmgmua · Post by **obpmgmua** » 2013-09-26 22:16

@epicelite

I agree. Shotguns should really have a 'BeanBag' shell, that is used solely for arresting non combatant insurgents. It could breach doors like buckshot too to balance it out. if you're a Civi or you Dropped your kit, being hit with a beanbag arrests you. As an armed insurgent it just kills you.

Vicious302 · Post by **Vicious302** » 2013-09-26 23:17

1. Hideouts
2. IEDs
3. SPGs
4. Collaborator (PKM Ambush, Suicide Vehicle Intel, Martyr and IED spotter)
5. Informants (Commander Waypoints)
6. Suicide Vehicles
7. Marksman
8. RPG
9. Technicals (IEDs, RPGs, SPGs Ammo, SPG, Rocket, 50 cal)
10. Mortars

10 Things you can do that I don't see done enough as an insurgent, Make sure your team has these things before you try using AKs or going head on into blufor forces.

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