MEC? still there?

[Rhino]

Jordan (an arab country and obviously in the middle east) and it's main weaponary is US-British, it is the only country in the world which currently operates the battle proven Challenger 1 tank

Didn't know they used the CR1

They also use a modified version of the Scorpion with a 30mm cannon (from the 76mm one it had before) and HOT missiles


I was tempted to make this version when making the MEC Scorpion, but went with the Iranian version which is basically the normal export model of the Scorpion with normal 76mm cannon but doesn't have a night sight:

[hussamsoft]

Rhino;1950302']Didn't know they used the CR1

They also use a modified version of the Scorpion with a 30mm cannon (from the 76mm one it had before) and HOT missiles


I was tempted to make this version when making the MEC Scorpion, but went with the Iranian version which is basically the normal export model of the Scorpion with normal 76mm cannon but doesn't have a night sight:

yeah for the challenger my profile picture shows a lineup of them firing in a training a year ago with the US army, anyway I wonder if the army did any changes to the scimitar its been a long while since I visited one of those military industrial parks, tbh damn i wish that i could see the challenger 1 in PR, but sure i'll have to wait for a future release that finally discards the MEC and replace it with other ME armies, however its more unlikely to see the Jordanian army in PR thats even if the MEC was to be removed

however im surprised that the MEC's scorpion is without night vision, while in an ironic way in wikipedia it says it is fitted with one (not sure about the export model)

[Rhino]

Normal scorpion has a night sight, which you can see to the right of the barrel:


But the export version exported to Iran, Jordan (before it was modified) etc, doesn't have a night sight attached like in the ref I posted above and just has a flat plate to the right of the barrel where it should be:

[Bellator]

They also use a modified version of the Scorpion with a 30mm cannon (from the 76mm one it had before) and HOT missiles

Wouldn't that be a little OP for Muttrah?

ahh thats incorrect in many ways, I'm from Jordan (an arab country and obviously in the middle east) and it's main weaponary is US-British, it is the only country in the world which currently operates the battle proven Challenger 1 tank, with many other assets that is simply not in PR, same for egyptian army for another example (specially with domestic versions of tanks and rifles and such) so it actually adds some more

Well, the Jordanian army would be just another m16 legion and we have enough of those too.

[Heavy Death]

MEC must stay. I started to love it, despite being on the meh side since forever.Its the only link to vBF2 and they have the perk of being universal, like militia.

[Rhino]

Wouldn't that be a little OP for Muttrah?

Which is one of the reasons why I made the standard export version the Iranians use, that, it was easier to make and Iran being in Oman is part of my back story to Muttrah

The Jordan version would basically be cross between the Scimitar and the BMP-2M2

[Death!]

Taking about MEC forces... Can we have the Leopard 2A7 on MEC? Saudi Arabia is wishing to get a shitload of them. Qatar bought like 62, the deliveries will be finished at 2018.

We would just need a retexture to desert patterns. We could have, for example, one Leo 2 on Kashan and the rest of the tanks to be T-72s.

[Heavy Death]

We would just need a retexture to desert patterns. We could have, for example, one Leo 2 on Kashan and the rest of the tanks to be T-72s.

That would be sick!

[Rhino]

Taking about MEC forces... Can we have the Leopard 2A7 on MEC? Saudi Arabia is wishing to get a shitload of them. Qatar bought like 62, the deliveries will be finished at 2018.

We would just need a retexture to desert patterns. We could have, for example, one Leo 2 on Kashan and the rest of the tanks to be T-72s.

Saudi Arabia isn't a main force we are basing the MEC on since they have too close ties with the west, same goes for a few other countries like Oman which uses the Challenger 2E etc which I've mentioned above. If we did base any of the MEC equipment on Saudi Arabia then we would be better off giving them the M1A2 since they already have around 300 of them...

We base our MEC equipment firstly on what's most common in the ME and secondly on countries that are "most likley" to be "allied against the west". There is still much we can add to the MEC but if we aren't going to give them every little bit of equipment we like and as I said above, we ideally want to split the MEC up into many different ME countries but that's a lot of work and unless we portrayed many of the countries we would have to loose some of our assets.

[Death!]

Saudi Arabia isn't a main force we are basing the MEC on since they have too close ties with the west, same goes for a few other countries like Oman which uses the Challenger 2E etc which I've mentioned above. If we did base any of the MEC equipment on Saudi Arabia then we would be better off giving them the M1A2 since they already have around 300 of them...

We base our MEC equipment firstly on what's most common in the ME and secondly on countries that are "most likley" to be "allied against the west". There is still much we can add to the MEC but if we aren't going to give them every little bit of equipment we like and as I said above, we ideally want to split the MEC up into many different ME countries but that's a lot of work and unless we portrayed many of the countries we would have to loose some of our assets.

Iran used to be a western ally back then... But point taken.

[MaxBooZe]

Iran used to be a western ally back then... But point taken.

Point and case.

[hussamsoft]

Well, the Jordanian army would be just another m16 legion and we have enough of those too.

actually thats incorrect too, despite being the m-16 the front line service fo RJarmy -royal jordanian army- it has many other stuff that are not in PR, for example it's tanks are CR1 M60 (upgraded) and chieftain tanks which are not in PR, the airforce uses F-16s and F-5s with mirages F-1 whach are not there too (expect for the F-16 of course) they also use AIFV and Ratel IFV which are not there, they use a mix of US-Taiwanese-British-German-Russian made fire arms they have their own AT weapon (RPG-32) and many other stuff, however my point is if PR is going to dissolve the MEC to various ME countries, it wont make another "kalashnikov" or "m16 legion" it will add new armies with some new decent stuff to add

[Kerryburgerking]

Saudi Arabia isn't a main force we are basing the MEC on since they have too close ties with the west, same goes for a few other countries like Oman which uses the Challenger 2E etc which I've mentioned above. If we did base any of the MEC equipment on Saudi Arabia then we would be better off giving them the M1A2 since they already have around 300 of them...

We base our MEC equipment firstly on what's most common in the ME and secondly on countries that are "most likley" to be "allied against the west". There is still much we can add to the MEC but if we aren't going to give them every little bit of equipment we like and as I said above, we ideally want to split the MEC up into many different ME countries but that's a lot of work and unless we portrayed many of the countries we would have to loose some of our assets.

Yet the UK fights MEC in Saudi Arabia (Burning Sands)

[hussamsoft]

Saudi Arabia isn't a main force we are basing the MEC on since they have too close ties with the west, same goes for a few other countries like Oman which uses the Challenger 2E etc which I've mentioned above. If we did base any of the MEC equipment on Saudi Arabia then we would be better off giving them the M1A2 since they already have around 300 of them...

We base our MEC equipment firstly on what's most common in the ME and secondly on countries that are "most likley" to be "allied against the west". There is still much we can add to the MEC but if we aren't going to give them every little bit of equipment we like and as I said above, we ideally want to split the MEC up into many different ME countries but that's a lot of work and unless we portrayed many of the countries we would have to loose some of our assets.

"most likley" countries to be allied against the west is something actually more complicated, for an example, Saudi arabia is an ally to the west, but so does Israel, and Saudi arabian government consider Israel as an enemy which in no circumstances their would be any relations between the two, that means if Syria is to go to war with Israel Saudi arabia (and most of other arab allies of the west) would go against Israel even if that means to go to war, Same for Egypt, if that country stabilizes politically on some one whose against camp david that could grow some tensions.

so a war against israel is a war against the west, why? simple Israel is closer in relations to the west than other arab countries as a whole

[Mineral]

Can't we just agree that the mec offers:

-a fitting faction for all our mid-eastern maps where we don't have the real army factions for them? And that alternating the MEC weapons or vehicles to fit one particular nation would then make no sense on the other maps?
-they have a weapons layout which is both unique as a faction in PR and fitting as a global middle eastern faction?
-they have a large variety of vehicles and aircraft fitting for the region?
-there could always be more and more and more, but that somebody has to actually do it and make it so?

This has turned into a suggestion thread for what to add to the MEC which is highly out of place as it started as a 'why is mec here?' discussion;

[Nate.]

Can't we just agree that the mec offers:

-a fitting faction for all our mid-eastern maps where we don't have the real army factions for them? And that alternating the MEC weapons or vehicles to fit one particular nation would then make no sense on the other maps?
-they have a weapons layout which is both unique as a faction in PR and fitting as a global middle eastern faction?
-they have a large variety of vehicles and aircraft fitting for the region?
-there could always be more and more and more, but that somebody has to actually do it and make it so?

Amen.

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[Rhino]

Yet the UK fights MEC in Saudi Arabia (Burning Sands)

afaik, Burning Sands is a fictional map that some parts like the town etc where inspired by bits of Saudi Arabia but that doesn't make the map is actually in Saudi Arabia. But there is nothing to say the MEC didn't invade Saudi Arabia and NATO is helping liberate it, but ye w/e works for you at the end of the day there is no storyline to PR so you can make on up yourself

TBH we have far worse things with map locations and names in PR, for example the map currently called "Beirut" isn't based on that city at all, it only got that name after it was made, yet "Operation Marlin" is based on the city of Beirut. On top of that you've then got the map "Lashkar Valley", which in r/l is in Helmand Province in Afghanistan, where British and USMC troops are currently stationed, yet for some odd reason German troops are on the map fighting the Taliban, where they are deployed in Northern Afghanistan and the map looks nothing like Lashkar, which is in fact a town/city.

"most likley" countries to be allied against the west is something actually more complicated, for an example, Saudi arabia is an ally to the west, but so does Israel, and Saudi arabian government consider Israel as an enemy which in no circumstances their would be any relations between the two, that means if Syria is to go to war with Israel Saudi arabia (and most of other arab allies of the west) would go against Israel even if that means to go to war, Same for Egypt, if that country stabilizes politically on some one whose against camp david that could grow some tensions.

so a war against israel is a war against the west, why? simple Israel is closer in relations to the west than other arab countries as a whole

Hence why PR has no official back story.... And like Min said:

Can't we just agree that the mec offers:

-a fitting faction for all our mid-eastern maps where we don't have the real army factions for them? And that alternating the MEC weapons or vehicles to fit one particular nation would then make no sense on the other maps?
-they have a weapons layout which is both unique as a faction in PR and fitting as a global middle eastern faction?
-they have a large variety of vehicles and aircraft fitting for the region?
-there could always be more and more and more, but that somebody has to actually do it and make it so?

This has turned into a suggestion thread for what to add to the MEC which is highly out of place as it started as a 'why is mec here?' discussion;

[Eddie Baker]

This thread is starting to look too much like a suggestion, and it already did reek of it. And it is a re-suggestion at that, and it seems to come up every release.

[obpmgmua]

I have a love/hate relationship with the MEC. I wish they'd have lighter caliber Assault Rifles and not full power Battle Rifles. Look I like the G3 as much as the next guy, but the kick is so high and with half the ammo count; CQC is a *****. And don't get me started on using it in full auto during emergencies. It still takes 3 shots to down a guy with the G3 to the chest like the M16/M4/L85/ETC, Armor or not. And the G3 is zeroed to 300m like an assault rifle which IMO is a waste of it's abilities.

I was really hoping that the MEC would use the AK47 professionally. I personally think it would fit. The assets are already there and for balance sake they can keep the G3 just in case. When I go Insurgent/ARF I almost exclusively use the FAL/G3 because nothing drops Blufor faster and more accurately than a battle rifle.

[Bellator]

chest like the M16/M4/L85/ETC, Armor or not

BS. Just learn to use the G3: it isn't that hard and really doesn't need more than 2 shots to take down a blufor soldier. in close combat its actually quite useful, sometimes better than m16 types, especially the american m4/m16 that is limited to 3rnd burst. There is a ton of Ak-47 wielding factions already: we don't need another one especially if it means displacing MEC's g3 use.