Mine teamkill system

[Jacksonez__]

You can place up to 25 landmines (or what I have heard) but place only 3 markers.
Devs, can you make it up to 8 markers at least?!

[granderslice]

Its actually the water-bottle IED now, not a mine. Most players just grab the nearest vehicle and drive without a destination or purpose. These are the players who run over marked IEDs and create these problems - especially the players who want to run the ammo techy to the cache, which is both redundant and useless. My feeling is that if you want to take on the responsibility of a vehicle, you assume the possibility of running over mines (IEDs) and are therefore held accountable by losing points, increased spawn time, or some other punishment for not taking care of the vehicle.

[CR8Z]

It just doesn't matter how many markers you put down, how many stacks of stones you set up, how many times you type in team chat, or how loud you yell in local, as there is always some.... idiot? that walks into a friendly mine field.

I have literally stacked stones in a semi-circle around a choke point for all friendlies to see, AND guarded the entrance to the mine field yelling at people in local, AND THEY STILL walk into the trap. The guy actually had to jump over the stones!!!

Either take them out, or just let it happen. There should be no punishment in either direction. I'm pretty sure you can't code or admin stupid out of people.

[Vicious302]

Couldn't we just start by increasing the re spawn times from mine kills? Or spawn time in general might help. I think a blanket doubling of re spawn time would greatly increase quality of play. Do it for the .37 release.. if it's not working out... fix it in .38 but the greatest thing about the launcher is the ability to do those small types of things and test them.

[Solid Knight]

Make it neutral. Plenty of people walk over obvious mines that have been marked and warned about. Hell, I'll even tell people on mumble not to go over a bridge because I mined the hell out of it yet they just push on and blow up the mines. And, of course, luck would have it that the enemy crosses said bridge a minute or two later. This happens a lot on INS because "OMG I GOT TO SHOOT THE ENEMY".

[waldov]

over 13000 views and 95% of people voting for a change in the system, is that enough to make it happen?

[Arab]

Are they going to add the Mine IED's etc as Markable?

It seems no-one wants to work on a system where there's a warning on the screen of an ied/mine.

It would be much easier to have a floating mine marker icon in 3D over any mine/waterbomb/ied. People are lazy to read text. Making something visually simple will reduce the teamkilling.

[waldov]

Are they going to add the Mine IED's etc as Markable?

It seems no-one wants to work on a system where there's a warning on the screen of an ied/mine.

It would be much easier to have a floating mine marker icon in 3D over any mine/waterbomb/ied. People are lazy to read text. Making something visually simple will reduce the teamkilling.

and stop punishing the guys planting mines

[Psyrus]

It seems no-one wants to work on a system where there's a warning on the screen of an ied/mine.

Feel free to get started, anytime

[Takeda]

Feel free to get started, anytime

What about small hovering marker (just a bit above the ground) like in FH2?, it would be visible only from 5m or lower?, I thinks its easy(FH2 already done it) and would fit perfect.

[Psyrus]

What about small hovering marker (just a bit above the ground) like in FH2?, it would be visible only from 5m or lower?, I thinks its easy(FH2 already done it) and would fit perfect.

Since all the devs have their hands full with their own projects for PR now, if you guys want to see something like the above implemented, this is how you go about it:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f388-p ... ysics.html

Show a proof of concept, working, ingame (preferably), and then if it gets community and dev support, you'll see it in a future release

You may even end up a dev, too

[Takeda]

Show a proof of concept, working, ingame (preferably), and then if it gets community and dev support, you'll see it in a future release

Just run forgottenhope2.exe -> join server -> take scout -> plant mine, Voil

[Mats391]

Just run forgottenhope2.exe -> join server -> take scout -> plant mine, Voil

It is not that easy i think. To make the mine 3d marker visible you need to increase the draw distance for all 3d markers and so it will be for everything that uses 3d markers. So you have to go through all the objects that use 3d markers (flags, c4, claymores, bridges (?)...) and remove those, if that is even possible.
Example:


But even then it wont fix the problem that mines that got placed before you join the server are invisible to you.
Imo just changing the system that noone gets punished (besides obviously dieing) would work fine. Maybe admins should get notified about mine teamkills either way to prevent griefing.

[waldov]

Imo just changing the system that noone gets punished (besides obviously dieing) would work fine. Maybe admins should get notified about mine teamkills either way to prevent griefing.

Yeah that's a nice and simple way of solving the problem and shouldn't be that hard for someone who codes PR you'd think. Lets face it 99% of mine team kills are unintentional and a good proportion of them are actually due to people being careless in insurgency the punishing needs to stop for sure.

[IWI-GALIL.556FA]

I think the system is fine the way it is. People just need to look at their fricking map.

[waldov]

I think the system is fine the way it is. People just need to look at their fricking map.

You could also say bf2 is fine ,people just need to work as a team. The whole point about mods and games is you can make gameplay additions to encourage these things you want ie. all the teams mines not getting set off by idiots on your team.

[IWI-GALIL.556FA]

You could also say bf2 is fine ,people just need to work as a team. The whole point about mods and games is you can make gameplay additions to encourage these things you want ie. all the teams mine getting set off by idiots on your team.

Yes, but PR has taken most HUD away and most 3d markers away too. I don't see this mine marker being added just because people are too ignorant to look at their map.

[Takeda]

Yes, but PR has taken most HUD away and most 3d markers away too. I don't see this mine marker being added just because people are too ignorant to look at their map.

Mine marker isnt same that mine marker visible from about 2-3m radious, and this may improve gameplay, coz Water IEDs are same what Nade traps was. You can place it even in a Dome of Death and there will be 1 guy who will step on it, even if its marked with 3 marks on map, with stone marks, etc.
Play as a Ins with ieds, and you will know what i mean.
In Forgotten Hope 2 Mine marker works, so it would work in PR too imho.

[Gosu-Rizzle]

In Forgotten Hope 2 Mine marker works, so it would work in PR too imho.

Yes, it works great in FH2, but this is Project Reality. I dont mind magic floating markers in a casual game, but thats not what PR is.
Those players who cant spot a mine or use their map deserves to get killed. (and eventually they will learn) Same thing goes for the guys planting the mines, they will learn that you shouldnt plant mines and traps in areas where lots of friendlies run around.
But the punishment for mines should be removed completely imo.

[Takeda]

Same thing goes for the guys planting the mines, they will learn that you shouldnt plant mines and traps in areas where lots of friendlies run around.

They did not for good 3 years that im playing, and i think they wont ;D