Bring the Low video settings back

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Psyrus
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

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Dr_Death wrote:this and the fact that the lack of accuracy on the guns are to simulate the shaking of the hands are starting to show up that this mod is not as much of a "simulation" as it said it was..... dissapointing, in an airplane you cant easily see where is the enemy, so i find the lack of large view distance unrealistic and an annoying feature.
Where on earth did you read that PR was a simulation game? I think you may have the wrong idea about what game you're playing...
DesmoLocke
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

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Project Teamwork is a more apt name. Always has been. Reality isn't that much fun anyways. ;-)
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Psyrus
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

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Dr_Death wrote:Well, that's sad, it does seems like if no game out there can fullfill my thirst for a realistic Milsim, not enough money for VBS, ArmA is getting Worse, ACE is not taking itself seriously and PR its not a simulation anymore.
PR was never a simulation, at least since I've been playing (0.25 and on). The closest you can get is ARMA as far as I know, or one of those DCS games...

As for the TOPIC of low settings, I personally would like to see the return of low settings as a stopgap measure, but that's above my paygrade :-o
matty1053
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

Post by matty1053 »

Honestly, I think it's fine the way it is.

I have everything on Low and OFF.

Plus, If it really kills your FPS.

Try to get Gambooster. I realised it helps releve my CPU and give me better FPS....
IWI-GALIL.556FA
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

Post by IWI-GALIL.556FA »

Gamebooster is junk, and obviously something needs to be changed on the next update to allow users to further lower graphics without gaining an advantage over the rest of the players, and limiting their VD is the best way. :)

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SShadowFox
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

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matty1053 wrote:Honestly, I think it's fine the way it is.

I have everything on Low and OFF.

Plus, If it really kills your FPS.

Try to get Gambooster. I realised it helps releve my CPU and give me better FPS....
Does Gamebooster brings my FPS from 5 to about 50 as I used to play? I don't think so...

But as people don't seem to be able to read, only write, it's not supposed to be permanent, just something to have until they find the cause of the major FPS drops and optimize the game.
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Jacksonez__
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

Post by Jacksonez__ »

To be honest, are you guys playing with microwave ovens or what? I bought ~$500 (380&#8364 ;) computer and it can run PR easily on the highest settings with 50 FPS, implying it's not some hardcore-gaming-rig - not even near.

Time to upgrade your PC? Is PR even enjoyable with every setting low and off? It must look horrible.

When it comes to ultra-low settings, why not add them if people want?
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Mats391
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

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SShadowFox wrote:But as people don't seem to be able to read, only write, it's not supposed to be permanent, just something to have until they find the cause of the major FPS drops and optimize the game.
Well lighting does not seem to be the cause for it, atleast if your GPU isnt maxed out. I just tested it with the PR FPSTest and there is no difference between having lighting low or high.
However this might be different if your GPU is the bottleneck, but judging from the performance reports its mostly the CPU.
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

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Jacksonez__ wrote:To be honest, are you guys playing with microwave ovens or what?
I use a steam powered computer.

If people that can't run it on "Low" anymore could afford upgrading the PC, they would probably do that already, don't you think?
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Jacksonez__
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

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SShadowFox wrote:I use a steam powered computer.

If people that can't run it on "Low" anymore could afford upgrading the PC, they would probably do that already, don't you think?
'Sad' truth that if games (/mods) are developed, the system requirements are going to be higher.

As I said.. putting the "ultra-low" settings wouldn't harm anyone, although I bet the game will be very un-enjoyable then, but ugh. I see what people are trying to achieve here, the shadows are rather heavy for older computers.

Why not add fully adjustable settings?
Meerkat
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

Post by Meerkat »

SShadowFox wrote:I use a steam powered computer.

If people that can't run it on "Low" anymore could afford upgrading the PC, they would probably do that already, don't you think?
If you can barely run PR on low settings, I'm sure that your gaming experience is already not enjoyable.
If you can not afford to buy a new computer or even upgrade existing one. Then perhaps you should buy a console (when you have money for that). You don't need to upgrade consoles and every game works high settings and stable 60 fps.
PC games evolves which means you must upgrade your computer regularly if you want to keep up.
Prevtzer
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

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Meerkat wrote:If you can barely run PR on low settings, I'm sure that your gaming experience is already not enjoyable.
If you can not afford to buy a new computer or even upgrade existing one. Then perhaps you should buy a console (when you have money for that). You don't need to upgrade consoles and every game works high settings and stable 60 fps.
PC games evolves which means you must upgrade your computer regularly if you want to keep up.
lol haven't you heard 1.0 has some serious performance issues? I played with 40+ fps in the previous versions and now I get 7...
IWI-GALIL.556FA
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

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Prevtzer wrote:lol haven't you heard 1.0 has some serious performance issues? I played with 40+ fps in the previous versions and now I get 7...
We have to find out why some peoples PC's struggle so much with this new 1.0 and why other peoples PC's weren't affected as much. My friend and I have nearly identical rigs and he can't play with any more then 10 fps with all settings as low as possible. My system runs it with all settings at high at around 70 fps. Why? Who knows...

And now, we wait.....
sirfstar
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

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IWI-GALIL.556FA wrote:We have to find out why some peoples PC's struggle so much with this new 1.0 and why other peoples PC's weren't affected as much. My friend and I have nearly identical rigs and he can't play with any more then 10 fps with all settings as low as possible. My system runs it with all settings at high at around 70 fps. Why? Who knows...
Post the specs of both.
Jacksonez__
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

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IWI-GALIL.556FA wrote:We have to find out why some peoples PC's struggle so much with this new 1.0 and why other peoples PC's weren't affected as much. My friend and I have nearly identical rigs and he can't play with any more then 10 fps with all settings as low as possible. My system runs it with all settings at high at around 70 fps. Why? Who knows...
Make a clear installation of BF2 and PR 1.0, I think that might work. :mrgreen:
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

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sirfstar wrote:Post the specs of both.
I'm running an Intel quad core 2.6ghz, 6gb ram, win 7 64bit, nvidea gtx 660 2gb. We were roomates when I was in college and built the same system for each other a few years back so we could game together. Although we're not roomates anymore, we still live in the same area and until the release of 1.0, would play .98 together quite frequently.
Jacksonez__ wrote:Make a clear installation of BF2 and PR 1.0, I think that might work. :mrgreen:
My friend has tried re-installing everything with no success.
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K4on
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Re: Bring the Low video settings back

Post by K4on »

The impact on having lowgraphics is not a big deal. If you cant run PR 1.0 now, you wont be able to run it fluently on 1.0 lowgraphics as well. These points, of having no lightmaps and forcing grass to not stop rendering after 5 meters, is acceptable even for an 5 year old PC (tested it on my old core2quad 2,66 ghz).

The team put quite alot effort in making this decision, and we still approve this.
Some DEVs are discussing in which ways lowgraphics can be brought back, but yea. read the first sentence.

We will make a statement on this as soon as it's time.
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