Khamisiyah Insurgency Layer

[Kerryburgerking]

There's no way US would win if MEC was OPFOR.

[matty1053]

Have the map like Black Gold INS... problem solved...

This would be fun. IMO. The City would have more caches able to defend cuase of course.

[_Fizzco_]

I really want a map with MEC as blufor on insurgency.

That's precisely what Outpost is

check out the thread https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f593-m ... m-wip.html

Currently being worked on by our lovely Crocop.

[Kerryburgerking]

Conventional armies as insurgents would'nt work. Just look at Dien Doung, how many time did US win?

[Nugiman]

How about:

MEC as Blufor

and

Insurgents as Opfor


MEC got light armor support (mostly jeeps and trucks, but also one BMP and 2 BRDMs, maybe air-trans and light air CAS like gazelle)
vs.
Insurgents with techies (2 rocket techies and dozens of MG techies) and old "captured" tanks and bomb trucks

[matty1053]

How bout a Rocket Techie.


Have 2 Rocket Techies= Insta-win for the INS.

What I would love to see.

US vs INS or MEC.

the MEc only has 2 choppers. (Trans both)
They respawn in 8 min

MEC has only 3-6 BTR's. (Respawn only one time after destruction)
MEC has only 2 BMP's (Respawn= NONE)
MEC has only 1 MTLB (The 30mm one. 1 Respawn)
MEc has only 3 Logis. (Respawn normal)
MEC has only 2 Jeeps. (The one with the .50cal)
MEC has only 1 Jet. (Respawns after 15min of round start. Respawns two times)


Then eyah.

[Kerryburgerking]

Really, Insurgents who have jets? Do you know how much it takes to maintain a jet? That's hardly something an insurgent faction can do...

[Jacksonez__]

Really, Insurgents who have jets? Do you know how much it takes to maintain a jet? That's hardly something an insurgent faction can do...

Indeed.

It requires many engineers just to sit the pilot in the cockpit. It's not like hop-in-and-go.

[Kerryburgerking]

Indeed.

It requires many engineers just to sit the pilot in the cockpit. It's not like hop-in-and-go.

But it takes alot of persons to maintain the aircraft...

[K4on]

Hmmm... Not sure how you would make insurgeny happen on this map.

[matty1053]

Ok trash the jet then.

And the Taliban is very wealthy. (IRL)


But the places would be obvious where the caches would be at.

The city. Bunkers , and everywhere else.

[Arab]

Hmm. Well then how about Tank Battle on that map?

[AFsoccer]

<Bump>

I'm in the process of creating two insurgency layers for Khamisiyah, as an experiment to see if they'll work. I like the idea of giving you guys more options and insurgency would certainly open up more areas of the map to fight over. So I think what I'm going to do is create a INS 64 layer with US Army vs MEC and a INS 16 layer with US Army vs Insurgents. To make it work, the 64 layer would have heavy assetes and the 16 layer (with insurgents) it would be jeeps only:

INS 64

US Army:
1 x A-10
1 x Kiowa (or attack littlebird)
2 x Bradleys or tanks*
Several uparmored Humvees
Trans helos and support vehicles

MEC:
2 x tanks or BMP2s*
2 x AA vehicles
1 x BTR60
Several UAZs with machine guns
AA guns in bunker area
Trans helos and support vehicles

I'm hearing some comments that say that US would never have a chance against MEC in insurgency, so let me know what you think. The US will have air power (kind of like in the AAS ALT layer) and the MEC won't. Will this be enough to balance things?

*As for heavy asset balancing, I can't decide if it should be 2 tanks vs 2 tanks, or mix things up a bit by offering one faction tanks and the other APCs with TOW. It seems like the MEC would be defending so maybe they should get the BMP with TOW and make the US come to them?


INS 16

US Army:
Blackhawks
Uparmed Humvees
Support vehicles

Insurgents:
SPG techies
Techies w/ MGs


So if you guys have any thoughts, feel free to share them. Now is the time to tailor this how we like, and how we think it will work best.

[Kerryburgerking]

Did you play Dien Doung? US NEVER won on that map.

[Rabbit]

AFsoccer;1969592']

INS 64

US Army:
1 x A-10
1 x Kiowa (or attack littlebird)
2 x Bradleys
Several uparmored Humvees
Trans helos and support vehicles

MEC:
1 X BMP-1
1 X T-62 or PT-76
2 x AA vehicles
1 x BTR60
Several UAZs with machine guns
AA guns in bunker area
Trans helos and support vehicles

I really like the inf layer, very simple If I can recall correctly you brought up people mention remnants of their force, and that is how mec is in an battle like it. I would say scrap it up a bit, Reserve type vehicles having to be pushed to the front.

I know they would need new skins and re-worked to work with them, but I think it could be pretty cool.

[Kerryburgerking]

I really like the inf layer, very simple If I can recall correctly you brought up people mention remnants of their force, and that is how mec is in an battle like it. I would say scrap it up a bit, Reserve type vehicles having to be pushed to the front.

I know they would need new skins and re-worked to work with them, but I think it could be pretty cool.

Make 1 AAV the ZSU-23-4 and the other the Gopher.

[Ason]

Sounds good, altough I don't see why US needs to have one more map against innsurgents, why not have MEC vs INS?

[Rabbit]

Sounds good, altough I don't see why US needs to have one more map against innsurgents, why not have MEC vs INS?

Because the standard layout is MEC V US army/ US marines. So it would be MEC v INS Speaking English with American accents.

I'm sure it wont be to much longer before you can play as MEC v INS.

[Ason]

Because the standard layout is MEC V US army/ US marines. So it would be MEC v INS Speaking English with American accents.

I'm sure it wont be to much longer before you can play as MEC v INS.

ah yeah I forgot about that.