Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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Trooper909
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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Right got ya..

I used to know the difference between GPU's and CPU's and stuff but ofc things change and now my knowledge is 0.


With the PC in the fully quoted specs from PCspecialist if I tell them not to add a HD and use my own do I have to wipe the whole thing including windows to fit my old one...I say old it was bought like a month ago so I really don't want to waist it..I ask because the guys I got the HD from put windows 7 64 on it for free but I ofc have no disks.
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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Trooper,
about transferring your current windows 7 OS installation on your existing HDD to a new PC,
sometimes it's extremely simple, sometimes not. And sometimes it's impossible.

On the upside, Microsoft built in to windows 7 a excellent tool called "Out of Box Experience" (OOBE) just for the situation you are encountering.

Step 1. Identify which version of Windows 7 you own.
Windows 7: Basic,, Home Premium, Pro, Ultimate
Windows 7: 32 bit or 64 bit
Windows 7: OEM or retail or educational. <--- this is the important bit for us. OEM version will cause problems. And technically might be illegal to transfer.
Watch this video for a quick tutorial on how to find your version:
Find which edition of Windows 7 you are using

Then, in almost all cases, you'll end up using the OOBE utility to transfer the HDD,
the best tutorial I've ever found for this is here:
Windows 7 Installation - Transfer to a New Computer - Windows 7 Help Forums

Let us know which version of win7 you have, and we'll help you out.
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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Windows 7 home premium 64 bit.

The product ID has the letters OEM in it.

So not as simple as just slapping the HD into my new rig then?
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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According to Microsoft you can't transfer an OEM license to a new computer.
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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R9 280X is better than the 660, you might just bare in mind that it uses more power than the 660, but you have a 700 watts supply, so it's not a problem.

It's possible if you use harddrive-clone programs.. Although that's not always succesfull.

There might be also a incompatibility with the OS and drivers, and the motherboard. I had it a couple of times that I had to reinstall Windows with new motherboards.

Eitherway, it helps cleaning up your harddrive space and get rid of useless stuff (unused programs, adware, temporary files, etc..)
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So really I can't just wipe everything on the old HD apart from windows and put it in my new comp?Why?
Its some DRM **** isn't it?

Buying a new OS puts me way over budget with the PC specialist one :(

As for putting my old PSU in it I really don't know how to un wire and re wire it all up.

I have a copy of Vista 32x to tide me over but ofc that isn't ideal.
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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Trooper909 wrote:So really I can't just wipe everything on the old HD apart from windows and put it in my new comp?Why?
Its some DRM **** isn't it?

Buying a new OS puts me way over budget with the PC specialist one :(

As for putting my old PSU in it I really don't know how to un wire and re wire it all up.

I have a copy of Vista 32x to tide me over but ofc that isn't ideal.
Sometimes there are compatibility problems with switching HDD's to another motherboard at BIOS level and driver issues.

You don't have to buy anything if you don't want to, unless you're an obedient political correct person.

You literaly can't miss with the PSU, each cable can only be inserted in one socket, it's just searching for the right one. There will be two or three that go into the motherboard, one that goes to your harddrive and other optional that go to videocards, etc..

You'll have less problem with Vista I think. As for the 32-bit (x86), as long as you're not planning to go hardcore you won't need +3GB of RAM.
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Careless wrote:

You'll have less problem with Vista I think. As for the 32-bit (x86), as long as you're not planning to go hardcore you won't need +3GB of RAM.
Lol you can't be serious...Can you?Nearly every game I'm currently running needs the +3gb to run stable.

What would be the point in all that hardware if my OS don't use it?Am I missing something?
Was just looking to use vista as temporary fix until I can afford a real OS.

What do you mean hardcore?I'm being as hardcore as my wallet will allow lol
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Trooper909 wrote:Lol you can't be serious...Can you?Nearly every game I'm currently running needs the +3gb to run stable.

What would be the point in all that hardware if my OS don't use it?Am I missing something?
Was just looking to use vista as temporary fix until I can afford a real OS.

What do you mean hardcore?I'm being as hardcore as my wallet will allow lol
Hardcore; CAD-simulations, heavy video-edtiting, etc..

I was thinking about multi-threading for some reason :? not about RAM, sorry.
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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For anybody interested this is what I went for
Case
ZALMAN Z11 PLUS BLACK MID TOWER CASE


Processor (CPU)
Intel? Core?i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4670 (3.4GHz) 6MB Cache


Motherboard
ASUS? H87M-E: Micro-ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs


Memory (RAM)
8GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)


Graphics Card
3GB AMD RADEON? R9 280X - DVI, HDMI, DP - DX? 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable


Memory - 1st Hard Disk
1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 32MB CACHE


1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ?R/?RW/RAM


Power Supply
CORSAIR 450W VS SERIES? VS-450 POWER SUPPLY


Processor Cooling
INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER


Extra Case Fans
1 x 12CM Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof) (?5)


Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)


Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs


USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS


Power Cable
1 x 2 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)


Operating System
Genuine Windows 8.1 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (?79)


Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE


Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE


Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour) (?5)


Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)


Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Quantity 1
?821.00 inc VAT and Delivery.
Thanx for all the advice it helped alot.

Gonna give my old one to family member so I'm not going to rip anything out of it.
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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You'll like that I think. Nice pick.
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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That's a beast! ;)

A hundred pounds more but you'll be very satisfied with it, I guarantee!
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When you get a chance I recommend investing in a SSD, even if it's a small capacity one just for your OS plus essential programs :)
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Thumbs up. A long time in good enjoyment to be had, see you on the battlefield at 100fps!
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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Hey..Bumping this thread because something interested me and wouldn't mind it being explained if anyone can.
In Quality Control

If your order status says In Quality Control, this means that your order has been tested and is now in our "hot room" where the system will remain for at least 24 - 48 hours (2 - 48 hours for laptops) until we are satisfied that the system has passed our quality and performance checks. The "hot room" ensures the components in your system are "burned in" and that the system performs correctly before dispatch.
The bolded part...what do they mean by it I assume this is a process people who make there rigs at home don't do and I was just wondering exactly what they mean by it and what is the point.
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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Trooper909 wrote:Hey..Bumping this thread because something interested me and wouldn't mind it being explained if anyone can.



The bolded part...what do they mean by it I assume this is a process people who make there rigs at home don't do and I was just wondering exactly what they mean by it and what is the point.
They run the system to make sure that it operates properly before shipping it out
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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that is the testing stage ain't it?..
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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Burning in a system is a way of testing, yes. I burn-in the systems that I put together.

I assume what they are doing is stressing the GPU and CPU to make sure that the components don't fail. It is a way of weeding out bad components as they are more likely to fail during burn-in. That is where the quality control part comes in.
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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FatalWaffles wrote:Burning in a system is a way of testing, yes. I burn-in the systems that I put together.

I assume what they are doing is stressing the GPU and CPU to make sure that the components don't fail. It is a way of weeding out bad components as they are more likely to fail during burn-in. That is where the quality control part comes in.
Indeed. More info can be found here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_te ... ss_testing

It's also very useful when overclocking components.
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Re: Pre built PC for under 700 pounds?

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Thanx for the info..
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