New gaming PC dilemma

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LITOralis.nMd
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Re: New gaming PC dilemma

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ASUS Maximus VI Gene Socket LGA 1150 mATX

As Psyrus mentioned, the G600 is specifically made for MMOs, it's unwieldy on the pointer finger (gun trigger) for first person shooters.
I love Logitech mouse products, so for current generation check out the G500S, that is G500S, not the G500, ... it's the evolution and near identical replacement of the Logitech MX518 .

And yeah, the ASUS Maximus VI motherboards have superior onboard audio chipsets. NO need for discrete audio card.
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Re: New gaming PC dilemma

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Not sure what your audio setup is, but something like a USB surround sound headset (eg the Logitech G35) could be used as an alternative to onboard audio.

In regards to the mouse, I'm currently using the Logitech G9X - and it's one of the best products I have ever bought. Logitech doesn't make it any longer, but they do make what I believe is its successor, the G500S, which Littoralis recommended above. I've heard good things about the Corsair M65, too. Gotta love Corsair.
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Re: New gaming PC dilemma

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I'd highly recommend a SSD. A HDD is by far the weakest link in your list. Some of the other stuff could be argued that it is not a good price to performance ratio, but the SSD is a must, even if its a smallish SSD for the O/S with the HDD for programs/storage.
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Post by Steeps »

There are places you can read up a little more on the motherboard/sound card topic if you want.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/31227 ... -necessary
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Zulnex
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Re: New gaming PC dilemma

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So, here is my second revised build.

Graphics
GeForce GTX 770 2GB - $369.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/gigabyt ... 8-1285.htm

CPU
Intel Core i7 4770K - $369.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/intel-c ... 5-1382.htm

OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64 BIT - $99.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/microso ... 1-1285.htm

CPU Heatsink + Fan
Noctua NH-D14 - $89.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/noctua- ... m3-fm1-86-
47090.htm

Motherboard
ASUS Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Z87 - $154.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/asus-z8 ... 0-1285.htm

RAM
Corsair Vengeance Blue CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B 8GB - $89.98
http://products.ncix.com/detail/corsair ... 1-1285.htm

SSD
Samsung 840 Evo Series MZ-7TE120BW 120GB - $99.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/samsung ... 0-1382.htm

Power Supply
Corsair TX750 750W - $139.98
http://products.ncix.com/detail/corsair ... -58382.htm

Case
Cooler Master HAF X - $189.98
http://products.ncix.com/detail/cooler- ... -53776.htm

Monitor
ASUS VG248QE 24Inch - $309.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/asus-vg ... 4-1285.htm

Mouse
Logitech G400S - $39.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/logitec ... 7-1285.htm

Keyboard
Logitech G105 - $49.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/logitec ... 9-1285.htm


Grand Total: $2004.85

I also have to figure out where to get cheaper shipping, but I will do that once this build is final. Due to work, I will not be able to reply for the next few days.

This build is not final. As always, feel free to comment and suggest. I appreciate it very much.
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Re: New gaming PC dilemma

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I-Omer-I wrote:I am using Microsoft wireless mouse (I don't remember what is it's model). I paid it 10$ and I don't have a problem when I playing. If you ask me, an average mouse and keyboard is useful to play and cheaper.
This.

"gaming mouse" is a marketing term really (I'm studying product engineering, 90% of the products don't do what they're advertised to do, design and branding shapes the )

Of course, we should not exclude that a "gaming mouse" could in some cases be more comfortable to play for a specific user.

But please, don't buy it just because it's has a "gaming" prefix.
Go into local shops, close your eyes and feel what mouse is comfortable for you.


And again, I feel bad for forcing my opinion into another person, but if you have the money to spend (won the lottery, taxes, etc..) you can do what you want.

I even think it would be much easier for you to just buy a pre-build computer, since building your own computer is most of the times done out of necessity or not willing to spend that much money on a computer that has lots of useless stuff on it.
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Re: New gaming PC dilemma

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You have a very good point Careless. I was thinking about a pre-built computer but they seem to be very expensive.

I like a gaming mouse as there are some extra programmable buttons on it (I play Simulator and FPS games).
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Re: New gaming PC dilemma

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I actually use DPI switches fairly often on my mouse (more than enough to justify them). Double thumb buttons are an absolute must.
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Post by Steeps »

Yeah I love my Logitech G500. It really is preference between all the models they have. Just don't get a mouse with 9000 buttons, it isn't necessary. I have like 3 or 4 on mine. Really nice using one of them as a Teamspeak talk button.
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Post by ElshanF »

Steeps wrote:Yeah I love my Logitech G500. It really is preference between all the models they have. Just don't get a mouse with 9000 buttons, it isn't necessary. I have like 3 or 4 on mine. Really nice using one of them as a Teamspeak talk button.
Loved that thing. G700s is a big recommended upgrade though. It's amazing. Just more comfortable, -some- more G-keys and amazing wireless preformance. My g500 left clicker was a tad broke so Christmas came in handy !
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Re: New gaming PC dilemma

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I'd suggest going up one step from this:
Motherboard
ASUS Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Z87 - $154.99

Specifically at your price range, you can get much better VRMs, MosFETS, capacitors and conductors for a few dollars more.

Here is the big list of Z87 motherboards,
Sin's Hardware - VRM List
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Re: New gaming PC dilemma

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'[R-COM wrote:LITOralis.nMd;1989582']I'd suggest going up one step from this:
Motherboard
ASUS Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Z87 - $154.99

Specifically at your price range, you can get much better VRMs, MosFETS, capacitors and conductors for a few dollars more.

Here is the big list of Z87 motherboards,
Sin's Hardware - VRM List
I used to be really into hardware/builds and that list means nothing to me... What would you recommend for him?
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Re: New gaming PC dilemma

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The general idea is if you're going to buy the i7-4770k and that excellent CPU cooler, you still need a motherboard able to run at overclocked frequencies for years on end without mobo components burning out.

With that said, and the facts that this is your money, and I'm a cheapskate, let's find the best bang for the buck to get a mobo that lasts:

ASUS:
Z-87 Expert
Z-87 Pro V (lowest spec'ed Asus I'd recommend for long term use) ( I own the Z-77 Pro V myself)
MAXIMUS VI GENE
MAXIMUS VI HERO
Good read on the Asus LGA1150 line up: ASUS Motherboard Differences & Naming Convention | Gamers Nexus - Gaming PC Builds & Hardware Benchmarks

ASROCK:
Z87 Extreme4 (This has been on sale very good prices in recent months, also least over-spec'ed of my recommendations)
Z87 Extreme6

GIGABYTE:
Z87X UD4H

MSI:
Z87‑GD65 GAMING (the least over spec'ed of what I'm recommending)
Z87 MPOWER MAX

In short got o Sinhardware link above, and anything that has high ratings on components and is recommended for liquid cooling would be a possibility. Then you have to pare it down to your price range.
Which is what I did above.
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Post by Steeps »

I would recommend the ASUS Pro V personally. I wish I had gone with the Pro version for mine because I have currently run out of SATA plugs with the plain V version I have.
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Re: New gaming PC dilemma

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[R-COM]LITOralis.nMd wrote:The general idea is if you're going to buy the i7-4770k and that excellent CPU cooler, you still need a motherboard able to run at overclocked frequencies for years on end without mobo components burning out.
Does he even plan to overclock?
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Re: New gaming PC dilemma

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A bit overkill, eh? You don't need 500000+ VRM phases to handle a 4770K.. A Z87-PRO\A will suffice... Even so, the 4770K is an odd chip, it really has problems going past 4.2 on the 50% and the other 50% of chips can get around 4.4-4.6 with out ridiculous amounts of voltz. A HAF-X is IMO, a bad choice... go 760T or 750D, newer and actually support decent WC loops.. If you want a HAF, go 932 or even better, the Stacker.....!
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Re: New gaming PC dilemma

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Thank you so much for your help everyone!

I will use ASUS Z87-A ATX Motherboard and a Corsair 750D case.

As always, please feel free to suggest. This build will probably be final by the end of Sunday and I will start ordering parts next week.
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