MEC guns OP to Syrian weapons...

[KlipCrazy]

IMHO the MEC guns are far better, it's like playing Al Basrah Skirmish on the UK team....you always win.

I'm not sure why we get these crappy guns as the Syrians when in real life they of course are using AK's, but they also have these weapons from other countries (or at least add scopes):

http://cdn8.wn.com/ph/img/f7/70/a0a99ef ... grande.jpg

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http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/dange ... 5b04_z.jpg

http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/ ... E91P1KLL00

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/defaul ... k=pP3HV4cd

And that map for some reason gives bad FPS compared to other maps.

edit: I could understand getting these weapons if the map was 90% city combat/close combat...but it's not, it's like 15% city combat, and even then shooting some dudes head that's barley poking out on top of a building while you're trying to iron sight him is next to impossible.

[Spush]

The 0.5% of foreign weapons among, the thousands of AKMs, AKS-47, AKS-74, AK74s that the rebels use. Think they have a good set of weapons right now, no need to waste it on the outrageous small percentage of foreign weapons and optics.

[Mineral]

MEC is placeholder for SFA, which will see a lot less scopes. I also don't see how you can base yourself on 2 days of playing. I've seen many rounds were Syrian rebels won. I myself get a very good K/D each time as Rebel. Specially with the RPK. They are many CQB engagements in both the city and outside.

Marksman,spotter and sniper all have scopes on Syrian rebels. Including a very powerful M16 DMR on alternative marksman.

Of course there are some AUG's,M4's and some other things. But they certainly are not in the majority. The Faction is supposed to display an average 50 count of rebels of all sorts and kinds.

Please wait a few more days before casting judgement. And if you do know that those suggested weapons are out of the question as they are too rare to implement.

[Nate.]

lol, someone posted that he thinks FSA weapons are way too op. guess it's a matter of personal preferences and not a real balance problem.

[KlipCrazy]

All I'm saying is whenever I play MEC i have 10-20 kills. When I play Syrian Rebels I have ~1-3 kills.

and even at the end of the round no one on the Syrian team has over 10 kills. everyone is like 1:9 or 2:15, etc.... while the MEC team has multiple people with 15-20 kills and zero deaths, or 1-2 deaths... And I know it's only been two days, but every single time we play i'm not the only one complaining about the lack of balance.

[Arc_Shielder]

I am having a different experience than yours then. But that's normal. It's been 3 days since release.

Give it some time.

[KlipCrazy]

I am having a different experience than yours then. But that's normal. It's been 3 days since release.

Give it some time.

Well I see you're from Portugal, I'm not sure if you play on the American servers (CIA, HOG). If you do then I guess time will only tell, but I have noticed the foreign servers play the game completely differently, and things tend to be...for a lack of a better word less organized. I just think if they made it so the MEC forces only had the iron sights that would make things a bit better.

[matty1053]

I find it completely balanced.

No, i am not seeing things. I have played this map nearly 6 times since the new patch came out.... I swear to god.


The FSA are Insurgents of course.

They have no Armor on their bodies. But out of the 6 rounds I have played on...

2/6 MEC won
4/6 Rebels won

Out of the 4/6 the rebels won.... I noticed, both teams had VERY close K/D. But this game isn't about K/D.
Out of the 2/6 the MEC won.... I noticed the MEC team was 100% more organized then my team. Yet, my team didn't understand that you have to make fobs to win. Or you have to walk 40000 miles to the flag


But there are more CQ engagements. So in CQB, definently the Rebels will win. Since Iron Sights win wars and bloody fights.

[fatalsushi83]

MEC is placeholder for SFA, which will see a lot less scopes.

That's awesome. I'd love to see modern day engagements in PR where both sides have iron sites (only Vietnam offers that right now). Looking forward to it.

Also, to those complaining about low kill/death ratios for the rebels, try playing more defensively. On insurgency I always see people trying to rush enemy positions or poking their heads around corners and getting shot by scoped weapons. If you want more kills and less deaths, find a good rooftop or alleyway that offers you lots of cover and wait for the enemy to come into your sights. From my experience, running around impatiently will usually get you killed.

[obpmgmua]

Actually I like the way it is now. We finally have a proper AK47 wielding faction. The problem IMO is the god damn double damage glitch.

[Kadoken]

I hate unnecessary ellipses.

[Psyrus]

Actually I like the way it is now. We finally have a proper AK47 wielding faction. The problem IMO is the god damn double damage glitch.

Um, that's been fixed already

What you might be experiencing is that you're up against the G3 with no body armor

[Rabbit]

And that map for some reason gives bad FPS compared to other maps.

edit: I could understand getting these weapons if the map was 90% city combat/close combat...but it's not, it's like 15% city combat, and even then shooting some dudes head that's barley poking out on top of a building while you're trying to iron sight him is next to impossible.

Probably due to the shear number of statics objects being loaded at once. However, its optimized in all the ways PR requests. Also, the m16 with a scope is part of the Syrian faction iirc.

try playing more defensively.

This 100x. I made the map for the Syrians to be able to dig in. That is why you see MEC vehicles with no respawn at release and bleed up to the 3rd flag in aas. As syrians, all you have to do is hold, and I have seen 1 FSA with a m16 wipe out an entire MEC squad.

However, as mineral said, the SAF will have very few scopes and will balance out while well in the long run when they are released.

[Conman51]

Im a big advocate of giving militia/ Ins teams more access to DMRs. It will help a little to compensate for their lack of scopes.

[Rabbit]

Im a big advocate of giving militia/ Ins teams more access to DMRs. It will help a little to compensate for their lack of scopes.

The syrian comfac does have DM weapons. I should be SVD and M16 with a scope.

[obpmgmua]

Um, that's been fixed already

What you might be experiencing is that you're up against the G3 with no body armor

Are you sure about that? Is an M4 supposed to kill Insurgents two shots to the chest? Is the 1911 supposed to kill blufor 3 shots to the chest?

[Psyrus]

Are you sure about that? Is an M4 supposed to kill Insurgents two shots to the chest? Is the 1911 supposed to kill blufor 3 shots to the chest?

I believe so, yes

As for the MEC weapons being OP, here's a round that just finished:

Very even [I was on the rebels' team]

[cribbaaa]

All the matches I've played on that map were quite even, whenever MEC has to push in to the main city or bumpy terrain / vegetated areas where scopes matter very little SFA seem to do better.

Fun round as the rebels:
http://www.twitch.tv/fraggingreat/b/511751343

[Nate.]

Well I see you're from Portugal, I'm not sure if you play on the American servers (CIA, HOG). If you do then I guess time will only tell, but I have noticed the foreign servers play the game completely differently, and things tend to be...for a lack of a better word less organized.

Haha, can't believe you really think that

[saXoni]

this game isn't about K/D

You're a funny guy. Please elaborate.

EDIT: We all know you won't elaborate, so I'll just say it. You get nowhere without killing people, so this game is most definitely about K/D, whether it's the people you kill while defending or the people you kill while attacking. You seriously need to do something about all the feces running out of your mouth, it's getting gross.

On topic: Let the G3s come to you and you'll fuck them up in CQB.