Anyone else feeling this apathetic lull when playing PR now?

[obpmgmua]

It seems to me that no matter how motivated I become to play PR. As soon as i join a server I have no incentive to play. I get so bored, I alt+f4 after a few minutes. When I do force myself to play, I'm not having the fun I used to have. The things that made PR fun for me all those years ago are gone.

I don't think it's just me having these feelings. Other people I talked to ingame feel the same way. I used to be able to marathon PR on the weekends for 12 hours straight when I needed my fix, now I can barely manage a few minutes. There's no challenge, no tension, no comradery for me in PR anymore. The feelings are gone now. All the good servers and all the good players are gone.

[SIDEKILL3R]

Should be on the feedback section but yeah i share some of your feelings when comes to long and lasting firefights but some good things never last forever i guess but still play PR everyday i wont let nun stop me. Wait for PR2 bro

[Rabbit]

I say it all the time, "clans".

[camo]

You say that all the good players left, I just think they've been replaced and you don't know the names of the new ones. Just take a few months off, that will do the trick.

[Spook]

Same here. After so many years I guess its normal. I try but connot deny the fact that all of this started with 1.0. After that everything went down the hill. I still play now and then but rarely I finish a round. I just get frustrated within first 15mins and rage quit because usually gameplay is shit nowadays. Not much server variety left due to the 100p servers, and from those that are still up NEW is the only server worth playing. Every other server lost tremendous amounts of quality compared to a year ago, its not even funny.

"Clans" lost most of their people. NwA, SRF, QRF, KIA, ODS (rarely see you guys filling a squad), Heroes, TP, FH, ITW/PR.IT, IDF, WST, 3dac (still pretty active, but has seen better times). All of them had like between 15-40 active people each, 1-2 years ago. Now some of them are basically non-existent anymore and you are lucky If you catch a member ingame. All of them were really good guys.

Imo main reason are the main 1.0 gameplay changes. They were adapted to make it more public-friendly and killed the roots of the community. Just as alot of people predicted before the release. You are more effctive playing alone or with 2 or max 3 guys now. I personally stopped playing in big organized squads regulary a couple of months after 1.0 release. Nowadays I often join a server, search for a trans squad, get in, grab an engi or breacher and go FOB and noob hunting. Thats the only thing left to do to have some kind of adrenalin kick. Or I do CAS or fly trans. I never did CAS pre 1.0, because INF was too awesome.

All of my fellow veteran friends from other clans without exceptions share my opinion. Right now its almost only publics holding PR together. Exactly what 1.0 tried to accomplish. Whether its stable or not seems to not be of any interest.

In early posts I predicted a big flow of publics and a big loss of clans with 1.0 release. And these publics would loose interest in PR very fast and leave it empty. First part already happened, second one is happening right now.

I never understood this anti-clan mindset of the devs. They always tried to push clans to the sides and make the game mostly for publics. It just does not make any sense with this type of game. Probably because of the succesfull PRT, which ofc was mainly public-based. They wanted to recreate PRT-like gameplay in public servers. But these were different times, and many tend to forget that most big early PR clans actually were formed during the PRT.

I am looking forward for the next F|H tournament, since its the only thing right now uniting the remains of all the clans and keeping PR alive.

[obpmgmua]

The problem with pubbies is we need them to repopulate the PR community. I still remember when .5 was new, there were 100+ 64 man servers filled to the brim with people, after release it dropped to like a dozen or so servers being full up until .6 was released. And then with every new release less servers and less people overall.

[WhiteRhino]

Guys, you are to hard against DEVS, Just think about how old this mod is. It lost people because it became more complicated with the newest versions, and this style of gameplay don't attract a lot of people. That's normal this game lost people and for those who still playing, they have not the same motivation as for the "good old's versions", because the PRT is gone now and I think that's a little the same for the DEVS. Stop whining about the gameplay quality now, that's too late. I know you are just nostalgic and would see again the teamplay you experienced before, and why not with a new game. But actually this is not possible (PR2 one day?). So keep playing with what you have now, or go play something else.

Ps: Sorry about my shitty english.

[Nugiman]

Took a 2 months break from PR due to real-life and another game (DayZ).
In the last week I slowly started to play PR again, and I have to admit I had a very good time!
Its always about your squad, if you have nice people to talk to and make fun with its always a good round, no matter if your on the loosing team or not.
Just find squads with talking people, and if you dont find one, then squadlead yourself and kick everyone not talking.

[AFsoccer]

Don't wait for someone else to step up and start the teamwork. Like Nugiman said, start your own squad and use good comm discipline with other squads and try to get something going.

[obpmgmua]

@soccer
I say this from both the perspective of a Squad Leader and Squad Member.

It's hard to lead a squad when all the 8 man squads are filled with the same few people who stick together. Not talking about clans though. I've seen brennan's squad on CIA filled with the exact same people round in and round out. I.E. Good players are spoken for and stick together with their friends. I'm the only SL I know who actively takes in pubbies and mic-less players. And some of them have surprised me. But that's not the point.

PR has lost it's luster. It's no longer the game I enjoyed for 8 years. People have changed, People have moved on. My fondest gaming memories are from PR, especially .5 Basrah and .98 Fallujah. I don't want to move on. Modern games suck.

[AFsoccer]

I get it. I've also noticed that with 100 players it may be impossible to form a new squad because they are usually all claimed, but keep trying. Yesterday I joined a squad and the SL was doing nothing so a few of us asked if he wouldn't mind giving the SL slot to me and he did. Today I joined Ramiel AAS (Blackhawk down) and noticed the US didn't have a commander so I did that... and within a few minutes, the team went from no one talking to impressive teamwork. I could also tell the SLs were really getting into it because they felt like part of the mission.

We were all pubbies once. We just need to whip these new guys into shape and bring them up to our level.

[K4on]

are you missing stuff like that?
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f112-p ... rtion.html

just play with the right people at the right time.

[Rudd]

I certainly hear the OP's pain, the gaming community isn't what it used to be; although I don't mean that as an insult to those who currently play I recognise that the pressures of more modern games have taken key parts away from this community; perhaps we'll be reunited in PR2.

I think the key to enjoying your experience is to take no shit. Find a squad leader you like or leave the server. If you are a squad leader, kick anyone out who isn't living up to their responsibilities. They can stay on the server, but not in your squad.

Although I will admit the PRBF2 learning curve is massive. I killed a CROWS humvee the other day on karbala with the most perfect parabolic trajectory SPG you could ever have seen (would have made a video but server crash) over a little hump of sand. Amazing shot at 150m (so below the HUD distance markings). How many people know how to work the SPG? Not alot. Imo it's not that simple, but I've been around since the very start of PR. But that's the nature of the game, how to make it more realistic without taking the ease out?

I don't play much anymore due to RL constraints, but people need to be more relaxed as well as more strict. A contradiction yes, but there are times you have a laugh and it doesn't matter if sq 2 takes an APC from your squad, there are other times where the shit is hitting the fan and you need discipline.

It aint easy, and it's harder today than it was a year ago due to extraneous factors imo, but it's still a good time. I don't play if I don't have 3-4hrs of disposable time now.

[Nate.]

I am really sick how everyone is always like 'uuuh PR was so much better back in .5' - when you could not even talk to the guy next to you.

I agree with Spook, but I had good rounds in 1.0. Everyone tends to blame everyone else for shitty gameplay all the time. obp, I suggest you join the F|H Tournament and other events (NEW on Thursday) and you will have some fun


I can't play PR at the moment because I am abroad, but damn, I miss it.

[matty1053]

I do agree.
But I don't agree.

In order for a new player to come back...
You have to make him enjoy PR.

Don't always kick players you don't know out of our squad for someone else. Because the new player would think... "so PR is always like this eh?? *leaves the server*

You have to set a good example to make the player come back again, and again.


It's like you are at a kid in a candy shop.... you love their candy and after you purchase a piece of candy you get kicked out of the store everytime. So eventually you will not come back ever again.

[Brooklyn-Tech]

why is criticism of current gameplay mechanics and it's comparison w/ previous gameplay mechanics being linked with the acceptance of new players in one argument??

i think these are two very separate issues.

[obpmgmua]

@nate

Have you ever played .5? Summer 2007; Devfile 24/7 Basrah. I made friends with the admin desertfox and donated a sum of money for a reserve slot. I spent a week playing PR straight. Eat, Sleep, Shit, Play PR. Such trivial matters like mumble didn't matter when the gameplay was so damn good.

The problem is not with nostalgia. But with the current landscape of PR. Hostility to new players, Gameplay has gone to shit, and Servers are like member only clubs. Unless you got a tag or donate some funds you ain't getting in.

[camo]

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

[Rabbit]

@nate

Have you ever played .5? Summer 2007; Devfile 24/7 Basrah. I made friends with the admin desertfox and donated a sum of money for a reserve slot. I spent a week playing PR straight. Eat, Sleep, Shit, Play PR. Such trivial matters like mumble didn't matter when the gameplay was so damn good.

The problem is not with nostalgia. But with the current landscape of PR. Hostility to new players, Gameplay has gone to shit, and Servers are like member only clubs. Unless you got a tag or donate some funds you ain't getting in.

.5 was still very gamey. People would drive a truck right into the middle of a bunch of enemy get out, lose the truck and get into a firefight and die pretty fast. All it was, was a slightly more tactical version of bf2 with some different features. A lot of the people I played with before enjoyed the gamey nature of it, and moved away as PR focused in on realistic fighting, tactics etc.

I find both quite fun, except for the people that want to play 1.0 as they played .5.

[obpmgmua]

@rabbit

It's not just .5 it's all previous PR versions that were better than 1.0. PR for me peaked at .98, It was the best hardcore, tactical shooter I played. Yes better than Arma. I liked .5 because it was damn good. I started at the tail end of .4 and didn't like it at all because it just wasn't worth the stats loss. PR .5 was the first mod that I played that made me not care about my BF2 stats. I didn't like .6, .7 and .8 as much because they were lacking. I like to think of it like this;

PR up to .5 = BF2 Hardcore mode
PR .6 - .8 Infant Stages of a new game.
.9-.98 PR Perfection
1.0> Detraction from perfection

Wait how did this discussion turn from feeling boredom in 1.0 to a trip down memory lane?