Help with possible new Computer

[CarbonVI]

Hi guys im in need of some help, my PC has recently blown and im in need of a new cheap one which can run PR I dont mind medium graphics just on which can run it smoothly. I've been looking at this one HERE No too sure if it can run it good but if you also could suggest some CHEAP PCs preferred under 200 or low 300 please can you post UK sites

[LITOralis.nMd]

Another forum member from the UK just went through buying a PC in the same price range:
check out the convo here, his Ebay.co.uk dealer might work for you:

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f329-h ... 350-a.html

See next post

[LITOralis.nMd]

hi guys was looking to upgraade from a 20 fps all low laptop
will any of these be suitable to get a steady 50fps?

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/bargain-hardware-store/Gaming-Media-PC-s-/_i.html?_nkw=desktop+pc&_fsub=3141104010&_sid=121231090&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

am i guna get some PR out of these things>? if so which pc shud i buy max price 200


http://stores.ebay.co.uk/bargain-hardwa ... 34.c0.m322

The ebay store, at the time he first linked to it, had pretty good prices and they had decent customer service in regards to swapping (upgrading) a part or two.

[CarbonVI]

The one I seen had these specs below:
Intel Core 2 Duo E2160 CPU
Memory: 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM
Hard Drive: 80 GB SATA hard drive
Optical Drive: DVD-ReWriter drive
Graphics Card: Nvidia Geforce GT 610 1GB/ATI Radeon HD 5450 2GB

Is that good enough for PR standards?

[LITOralis.nMd]

definitely NOT going to be able to run PR.

That CPU is just worthless at this point. Like you can probably buy 100 of those CPUs for 50 quid from an e-recycler.

That GPU is also definitely not going to cut it.

You'd do better randomly pulling PCs out of garbage tips,

... Just having a laugh, but yeah, that's not going to cut it.

[CarbonVI]

Just seen this and for the price seems great:
Case : Vantage Blue Midi Tower Case + 4 x 120mm Fans
Power Supply : 500 Watt With Power Cable Supplied
Motherboard : Gigabyte F2A55M-HD2
CPU : AMD FM2 A8 6600K APU Quad Core CPU 3.9Ghz (turbo 4.2Ghz) Black Edition
Hard Drive : 1TB Sata 6Gb/s Hard Drive
Memory : 8GB DDR3 1600mhz Memory
Graphics Card : ATI 8570D

[Daniel]

Isn't that one of those AMD APUs (integrated quite good graphics IN the CPU, but not enough to handle PR afaik) or IS that mentioned " Graphics Card : ATI 8570D " even the integrated one? If so, maybe it can run PR, but the CPU/APU might become quite hot... (wait for another reply of Litoralis please)

At least the " Memory : 8GB DDR3 1600mhz Memory" is good, maybe you can mention the manufacturer?

[LITOralis.nMd]

Daniel is right, the Graphics Card : ATI 8570D is the integrated GPU on the CPU die, it's not powerful enough to play PR with.

That being said, the rest of the components are quite nice, if the cost of that PC plus cost of purchasing a discrete GPU is in your total budget, I would consider that a decent option.

[MaSSive]

You're missing a 200 to be able to cut in and get a decent rig. So save some money and wait for the time to come. You can get last machine you listed but you will need a decent gpu to run anything on it. APU will not cut it.

[Daniel]

But, Litoralis, isn't the APU GPU in that APU between the GeForce GT 640 and GeForce 9800 GTX+ performance wise?

[LITOralis.nMd]

I just don't know any real world users of the HD 8570D integrated GPU who play BF2 or PR.

3DMARK06 is a decent approximation of DX9 graphics, though not a perfect proxy:
AMD Radeon HD 6570 results:
Search Radeon HD 6570

AMD Radeon HD 8570D results
Search Radeon HD 8570D

[CarbonVI]

To be honest this PC seems alot better than my older one which was atleast 7-8yrs old and could run BF2 PR on medium and only had 2gb RAM and Nvidia 8400GS 2gb graphics card I'm not expecting top notch graphics off this but something pretty basic which i could run it on Medium still and be able to play PR BF2

[PLODDITHANLEY]

I'm still enjoying PR with a 9600 GTM in a portable.
Couldn't you find a similar card second hand for peanuts?

Can't you salvage any parts from you old one?
I bought an asrock G41 mobo and a second hand E8500 for under one hundred pounds, you could still use you 8400GS?

Even Microsoft didn't give me any hassle reinstalling Vista on a new mobo and cpu.

This is the wife's comp but with a 500 Psu and a cheap card that'll still run PR OK.

[Ninja2dan]

I used to be able to run PR quite well in the "early days", but my PC has been dying bit by bit over the last two years. I originally built it back in 2004 using the top components available at the time, some of them not even available yet on the commercial market. But nowadays, most kids in grade school have a better PC to play their Minecraft.

As for my own specs, it's an AMD 2.2GHz single-core, 1GB AGP video card, 2GB DDR RAM, a 600W PSU, etc. The single-core is the biggest problem, as most games now won't even allow it to attempt to run without dual-core or better. AGP is also a dinosaur now, with 1GB barely being good enough to watch HD video. And with a lot of the newer PC's running 64-bit OS, going 4GB and above on RAM isn't a problem.


I helped my girlfriend pick out a new PC a few days ago because her last one was running XP. The new one is an ASUS M11BB, running an A8-6500 3.5GHz quad-core, 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM, 1TB HDD, and the previously-mentioned integrated Radeon HD 8570D. It has only a 300W PSU, and the case came lacking an internal rear fan, but for how it's set up right now that's not a problem for what she uses it for. Cost was just over $400 US, and I plan to purchase the same model next month if my current PT job works out.

Although that cost is a little more than your desired budget, that's what you'll have to expect. You're not going to get a decent gaming PC for less than that, unless you buy used/refurb and that's a risk. You pay less, but you'll be buying a new one much sooner too. With the ASUS M11BB for example, a better 500W+ PSU and a good video card are all that's needed to bring it up to being an excellent gaming rig that will last for years. You might be looking at $600-700 total for a system that should be capable of running just about any game out there on max settings.


That Dell 745 you linked as an example though, I wouldn't use that for much more than reading emails. A 1.8GHz CPU is like what you'd find in a personal tablet, and most MP3 players like the ipod have more storage than the 80GB HDD included in that PC. They say it's "Gaming Ready", but I doubt anything much more than Mahjong would work well on it.

My personal suggestion, coming from someone who knows what it's like to be lacking a decent PC and is short on cash...wait until you can afford a good one, don't just buy the first cheap thing you can get your hands on. I've been rocking this pile of shit for almost 2 years now after it was officially ****, only because I'm saving to make sure the next PC I buy won't be useless the day after it arrives.

[houdaifatam]

Hello guys, I'm helping a friend to pick a new pc :- Cyber PowerPC Gamer Ultra GU6022 Gaming PC - AMD FX-4100 3.60GHz, 8GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, AMD Radeon HD 6450, Cooler master Elite 431 Case, NVidia GeForce 7025 Motherboard, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Will this run PR ? and on what settings ?
Price: 297 pounds / 500 bucks

[houdaifatam]

*bump any help would be highly appreciated

[Daniel]

AMD Radeon HD 6450 will not really be able to "run" PR, maybe only on 1024x768 @ 25 fps or so? At least I HIGHLY recommend for a new Radeon R7 265 for around 100 bucks. Hell, that one even outperforms my Nvidia GeForce GTX 570...

OR if not too expensive, an R9 270 or R9270X for around 150 - 170 bucks...

[LITOralis.nMd]

houdaifatam,
are you/your friend buying direct from Cyberpower.com or through a third party retailer? If a third party retailer, post a link to the website and we can give you some other options.

The HD6450 will not run PR at very high settings, the rest of the PC is a good ratio of price/performance.

If your friend doesn't want to put more than the US$500 into a PC atm, consider the Watts rating of the PowerSupply in those CyberPower PCs you are choosing between. IF it's at least a 400W PSU, he can buy a mid range graphics card later as an upgrade and the PSU wil have enough Watts on the 12Volt Rail so he wouldn't have to replace the PSU and GPU at the same time.

[houdaifatam]

houdaifatam,
are you/your friend buying direct from Cyberpower.com or through a third party retailer? If a third party retailer, post a link to the website and we can give you some other options.

The HD6450 will not run PR at very high settings, the rest of the PC is a good ratio of price/performance.

If your friend doesn't want to put more than the US$500 into a PC atm, consider the Watts rating of the PowerSupply in those CyberPower PCs you are choosing between. IF it's at least a 400W PSU, he can buy a mid range graphics card later as an upgrade and the PSU wil have enough Watts on the 12Volt Rail so he wouldn't have to replace the PSU and GPU at the same time.

Third-party retailer plus I can go up to 650 bucks. Sorry for the late answer, I had exams .
You can use any website to advise me.

[LITOralis.nMd]

I don't know many UK resellers,

Also, does he need peripherals? keyboard, mouse, speakers, headset, monitor etc included in the total price?


Aria has these quick ship gaming PCs:
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Ebuyer:
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Amazon.uk has hundreds of PCs,
Amazon.co.uk: ?290 - ?650 - FREE Super Saver Delivery / Gaming / Desktops: Computers & Accessories

In short, try to find a PC with a better GPU than the one you first mentioned. You should be able to find a at least a GTX650 in a UK 450 Pound PC, and even better if you move up to 650 Pounds.