Effects

[tankninja1]

Don't know what other people's experiences are but the effects post 1.0 cause terrible client side lag. When I use high rate of fire vehicles like a zpu or bmp-2 its hard to aim because FPS drops off to very nearly zero.

Also the effects are somewhat inaccurate, not in detail but in size. When you play with effects on low the explosions are deceptively small. If a mortar explodes and you can see the whole mortar effect you take a sizable amount of damage. I would expect a little from being 20-30m away from the center of the apparent blast but it take 1/2 your life away.

[Truism]

Dude, when you see a mortar or artillery round explode, you're seeing the blast effect (the explosion and shockwave). This is not the method by which most offensive support deals most of its damage, which is by shrapnel.

NATO 81mm mortars have a listed lethal range of 40m for troops in the open. That's using NATO standard methodology, meaning that:

The target is not in cover.
The target is wearing heavy winter clothing.
The target is prone.
The target has a 50% chance of receiving an incapacitating injury from shrapnel at a distance of 40m from each round.
The air temperature is 25 degrees C.

etc

[tankninja1]

Dude, when you see a mortar or artillery round explode, you're seeing the blast effect (the explosion and shockwave). This is not the method by which most offensive support deals most of its damage, which is by shrapnel.

NATO 81mm mortars have a listed lethal range of 40m for troops in the open. That's using NATO standard methodology, meaning that:

The target is not in cover.
The target is wearing heavy winter clothing.
The target is prone.
The target has a 50% chance of receiving an incapacitating injury from shrapnel at a distance of 40m from each round.
The air temperature is 25 degrees C.

etc

But with your effects on high as opposed to low the blast effect is much more massive. Not just for mortars but for smaller ordinance like grenades

[waldov]

Lots of new effects definitely cause more lag I must say, even on lowest settings. The main fps killer apart from lots of explosions is the smoke statics on Ramiel, Fallujah and a few others. For the Ambience it gives the map to the amount of lag I really don't think it is worth it.

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[Truism]

But with your effects on high as opposed to low the blast effect is much more massive. Not just for mortars but for smaller ordinance like grenades

What do you expect?

Lowering your effects makes it easier for your computer by reducing the amount of effects displayed. There'd be no difference between high and low if there weren't something losing out, either size or resolution. Given how particle effects work in this game I don't think resolution is really a viable option (think CS 1.5 low graphics smoke grenades, the horrible sprite things).

[Spook]

"oh man the new effects suck so bad, the FPS drop is unplayable, old ones were perfectly fine.."
"oh man, the new effects look so crappy on low settings, I want to them to be as awesome as on high!"

fuck logic!

[SANGUE-RUIM]

I wish they'd bring back the new effects (the ones when 1.0 was released)

they were awesome!

I had problems too with lag, but after an upgrade on my rig I solved all of them!

[Spook]

What exactly did they change on the effect since 1.0 release? Except minor fixes and tweaks?

[Inspektura43]

If you mean the OPEN BETA effects.
They looked awesome.

[SANGUE-RUIM]

What exactly did they change on the effect since 1.0 release? Except minor fixes and tweaks?

flames and smoke effects were changed, for instance

just compare burning vehicles smoke now with beta/1.0

[Mineral]

Quite a lot of smoke and fire effects were changed after 1.0 to get some better performance. Like the big oil fire smokes as an example. It's hard to improve performance with them and keep same quality I presume. But I doubt anders and bruno are done with the effects You can expect updates and improvement in the future as well.

[tankninja1]

What exactly did they change on the effect since 1.0 release? Except minor fixes and tweaks?

Back in the beta the effects were reminiscent of Battle LA. Most crashes had extra fire effects. There was more Hollywood like explosions.

"oh man the new effects suck so bad, the FPS drop is unplayable, old ones were perfectly fine.."
"oh man, the new effects look so crappy on low settings, I want to them to be as awesome as on high!"

fuck logic!

I never had a problem with the old effects it is a nine year old game you expect things too be low quality. The new one are a bit pointless on low. They are like having a fancy sports car then taking a chainsaw and sledgehammer to it, that is turning the graphics from high to low not the changing from the old graphics to the new graphics.

[Ason]

Also the effects are somewhat inaccurate, not in detail but in size. When you play with effects on low the explosions are deceptively small.. I never had a problem with the old effects it is a nine year old game you expect things too be low quality. The new one are a bit pointless on low.

I'm not sure I understand, but I guess the ideal is to play the game on High(that's how it's meant to be played), everything under that will give you losses in visual effects and everything.

It feels like you are kinda saying this "when I put viewdistance to 50 % I only see 50 %, and that feels pointless"

But maybe I misunderstood it completly.

[tankninja1]

It feels like you are kinda saying this "when I put viewdistance to 50 % I only see 50 %, and that feels pointless"

Yes and no. What I'm trying to say is that nothing has really improved. The capability is there to make the game really awesome, and some or most people play at max settings. But the game has upgraded and my computer has not so I can really only play at the same level settings I was using prior to 1.0. Only difference between now and .98 is that rapidly exploding shells now cause lag, and changing settings is less proportional. In .98 only difference between high and low explosion effects is that you went from brown/gray explosions to just gray explosions. Now when you go between high and low settings you lose so much detail, explosions look smaller, you lose fire effects, you lose water vapor rings on very large explosions, sometimes effects won't render in odd circumstances.

[Death!]

FN Mag is sounding too quiet on 1.2, it is a damn 7.62mm MG! It should hurt your ears like the FN Minimi does when firing.

The tracks on Leclerc are the only things you can hear, the engine is really low on volume now. Also, sometimes you won't hear the when it shots, it is bugged.

[Raphavenger]

FN Mag is sounding too quiet on 1.2, it is a damn 7.62mm MG! It should hurt your ears like the FN Minimi does when firing.

The tracks on Leclerc are the only things you can hear, the engine is really low on volume now. Also, sometimes you won't hear the when it shots, it is bugged.

You are off topic

[Death!]

There was no open sound effects thread so I took this one as general effects.

[camo]

Could we get the old smoke back? The new smoke effects from smoke grenades looks really bad with all the black smudged through them.

[-=anders=-]

Could we get the old smoke back? The new smoke effects from smoke grenades looks really bad with all the black smudged through them.

To be honest I have no clue what has happened to the smoke grenades! Im with you, they look terrible. Strange thing is; noone has edited them. Not even pre 1.0...

[camo]

To be honest I have no clue what has happened to the smoke grenades! Im with you, they look terrible. Strange thing is; noone has edited them. Not even pre 1.0...

haha oh **** that sucks, they don't even work properly you can see through them