Any Firefighting Tips You Can Share With Me?

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Ewokinarmor
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Any Firefighting Tips You Can Share With Me?

Post by Ewokinarmor »

Hey guys. Although my normal role as a medic means I usually don't get into head to head gunfights, but when I do I am almost invariably killed, and that's no good to my squad, is it? So I really want to learn how to firefight properly, because everyone else in my squad seems to do it just fine. I'll often die even when I have the upper hand, like this: *true story incoming*

I was once playing as MEC Medic in Muttrah City near an alleyway, and all of a sudden, somebody shot the guy next to me, who luckily fell behind cover. After getting him back up, I decide to take a peek into the alleyway. After inching my way into view while scoped in (I'm using the standard optics), I see this US soldier kinda looking to the side. He clearly doesn't see me. So I shoot him once, he returns fire, and we both run behind cover. I peek out of cover and scope in on the only place he could possibly resurface. Then he pops out again, I shoot him in the chest, and then, somehow he squeezes off about three bursts into my chest and face accurately from about 20 meters, killing me.

So yeah. There are plenty of other stories where I just round a corner to go OMGWTFBBQ *BANGBANG DEAD*, but they're too numerous to post here. Do you guys have any advice you can share so that I don't suck at firefighting in a game about firefighting? Thanks.
Jutsch
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Post by Jutsch »

In the situation you described, you could also just have shot two or three bullets instead of one ._.
Nightingale
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Post by Nightingale »

How come your squadmates aren't protecting you, the medic?
Ewokinarmor
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Post by Ewokinarmor »

Jutsch wrote:In the situation you described, you could also just have shot two or three bullets instead of one ._.
Yeah I know, but I usually keep my gun on semi auto because once I fire one shot (even on full auto), my crosshair is above the enemy's head ._.

Also, I often have to rush out of cover to save the guys that died because they rushed out of cover. Maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration, but that guy WAS shot for a reason, and oftentimes I am exposed to enemy fire. Regardless, I don't always play as a medic, so if anyone had some general tips they could share with me, that would be nice.
Murkey
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Post by Murkey »

I read the title as how to deal with fires, like aim fire extinguisher at base of fire, close doors, don't us the lifts etc :P

OT - general CQB tips:
- Iron sights are generally better than optics. Especially since the medic should be sticking with the squad.
- On that issue, be prepared to let your squad mates do the majority of the fighting. You can cover potential enemy flanking routes and kill people when your squad mates go down and give you solid intel based on footsteps over their bodies etc.
- Sound is important, effects up loud, comms short and quiet.
-When in a fire fight don't sprint and if you can let them come to you.
- Always be in cover unless you're doing something for a specific reason. Even then always be aware of your nearest bit of cover.
- Similar to above always be aware of what angles you're exposed to and which are mostly safe. Minimise the exposure whilst angling to shoot hostiles.
- If you can flank, do it fast and unseen. Slow and obvious isn't really flanking.
- Don't die with smoke on your body or grenades on the kits around you. Use everything then worry about ammo if you survive.
- Might add more later if I think of anything else general.

Cheers, Murkey.
elerik
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Post by elerik »

Well try imagine if thay really hit you you will be really wounded or die. This image rapidly increasse my survival.

to survival list

- spread out from your teamates everytime when squad stop.
- If somebody looking behind corner. Stay away from corner at least 10 meters.
- if your situation is weak (you are almost alone in firefight) keep big distance from enemy. That means suppresion, move, suppresion. Dont care about munition. Time to time check situation and join with sombody around. Give him information and continue tugather until full squad regroup.
- for bigdistance use single shot and optic. For close combat (<30m) use semi and iron sight.
- for room combat use semi or full auto and dont use any sight. Fire from hip.
- Everytime when you hear close fire even you are not surrpres or blow, everytime lie down.
- if you start runnig acrosss street dont look left or right until you get in cover. Dont care if there is enemy and thay shooting to you. Sprint like hell, dont jump. Sprint straigt to side.
If you know that street is coverd by AR or HMG dont move on that street until you have havy armor support, smoke cover or thay was shoot.
- keep in mind that you can fire througt few materials. Like wooden houses, sometims throught bricks, iron fence.
- if you are in house and get under the fire, get our from walls. If you turn around your arms or legs can "get througt walls" and you can be killed even in this cover. So get our from walls in rooms.
- if you will not hit enemy in 1-3 bullets take cover again. And change position if possible if you have feel that he could use granade or granade louncher.
- if you have LAT dont hasitate use it to clear a house, room or fire it to corner. Many suqads just stack behind corner very close each other.
- Look how terrein looks. For example. You dont see corner becouse there is bush in your sight. But you hear enemy fire from this position and you can see top of corner up above bush. So just blind shoot througt the bush where your mind calculate corner can hit him (true story I made it few times succesfull)
- if area atack come leave assats. Or you are death death.
- Dont move on edge of terrain. ON edge move just in sprint. On edge dont lie. Just crounch stand up look fast. crounch. Its faster. If you are on edge and you lie and get under fire. Stand up. Sprint to cover. Dont try crowel.
- On open space area keeep biiiiig spread with teamates. And if your squad stack, susggest tham keep spread.
- If sombedy from your squad say. I cover you guys. Dont forget to him and cover him too when he will rejoing squad. Many squadleaders and squads forget this teamspirits guys back after that. If squad leader run too fast slow him. Because he is who lead.
- And one for everybody. Dont let your squadleaders runs first, if thay are shoot many times it means your squad will not survive.
StevePl4y5
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Post by StevePl4y5 »

Well, how you should act in a moment like that really just comes from experience, after playing for a while you're gonna start getting them spidey senses lol. The more you make mistakes, the more you die, the more you'll also learn from it, and little by little you're gonna gain this instinct, and you'll just know what to do when you have to do it.

But anyways, for tips, CONTROL THE ENGAGEMENT:
- You said when you shot that guy, he returned fire you both took cover. You have to learn to deal with enemy fire and take the chances. You just shot this guy, his sights were not up, he was not ready to accurately acquire and neutralize his target, you had the upper hand. You should have stayed where you were, trying to fire at him, but he was never gonna get you, and even if he did get into cover you'd have the situation under control. By going into cover you lose the control of the engagement, he could have easily thrown a nade at you and you wouldn't know because you weren't covering him. Now, when he popped up again, you shot him and he survived and somehow killed you, that happens, it's a game, it's not perfect. But that only happens when you're in a situation of equality with your enemy, when you take the upper hand and pin him down, you have him in the bag. He was able to kill you, because he reacted to your fire accordingly.

- I'm gonna give you a practical example. This one time on dovre winter, I was a sniper, and I was relocating. About 10 seconds after I reached my position on a small hill with my binos out, an AR pops out of cover about 100m away, he walked for a bit and then saw me, layed down on the ground and deployed his gun. I quickly switched to my sniper, and deployed it, I was already prone. We literally just looked throught the scopes at each other for about 5 seconds waiting for our guns to stabilize. Had I fired my gun before it was ready, I would have missed and he would have killed me, because the sniper can only fire 1 shot at a time, while the AR... well. But unlucky him, I was already prone and stopped for a bit, and I stabilized much faster and killed him. I wasn't counting the seconds for that sniper rifle, I just felt when it was ready to fire. But the point is, you can't panic.

- Actually, ignore all I just said, because my real only tip is: DO NOT PANIC.

EDIT:

- One final thing, manage your ammo. The worst thing that can happen on a CQB situation is you pull the trigger and you just hear *click, click* lol. You can keep tabs on the rounds on your mag by holding Q, there's a little meter thing that goes up near your mag count at the bottom of the screen that roughly tells you how full is your mag. That is a very rought indication tho, so make an habbit of counting your shots. When ammo is promptly avaliable, reload your gun often.
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Post by Nate. »

Don't prone-dive when you see an enemy in a 1v1 situation (for short-midrange). He'll just start laughing and kill you with ease. Deviation takes longer to settle when going prone, so he can just relax, aim and fire without you having a high chance of hitting him.
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Post by Frontliner »

Ewokinarmor wrote:Then he pops out again, I shoot him in the chest, and then, somehow he squeezes off about three bursts into my chest and face accurately from about 20 meters, killing me.
That's an issue with how the game is programmed in terms of lag compensation and interpolation. The person taking the initiative(going around the corner; switching between crouch and stand at window; etc.) get's a window of around 0.2 seconds before the other person sees him acting; add in human reaction time and you're almost half a second late. I know that Valve games such as Counter Strike and others let's you reduce the interpolation down to 0.02 seconds,(though for some unfathomable reason the standard config has it at 0.1) at which point it's not noticeable any longer. The same happens when you go back behind a corner, and somebody still manages to shoot you - that's also the interpolation kicking in.

If anyone wants to take this to the extreme, type in cl_interp 1(Source Engine;CS:S) or ex_interp 1(Goldsrc Engine;CS 1.6) and try to get anywhere.
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_Fizzco_
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Post by _Fizzco_ »

Pro tip, Always have your gun on full Auto, if you need to use single shots its easier to switch when your miles away then it is to switch from single shot to full auto when your right next to them. (Plus you can basically do single fire with full auto on)
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