[0909-0917] APC & CAS CTD

[Psyrus]

Description:
During the course of the game, through an unknown cause, both the driver and gunner of APCs and CAS choppers (Cobra, Hueys) will crash to desktop. All vehicles of the same type will CTD at the same time (all CAS hueys, or both pilot & gunner in Cobra, all LAVs). Is apparently a known issue but I see no bug report so I thought I'd submit one just in case.

Steps to Reproduce:
Has happened now three times between the two levels listed. First the APC gunners & drivers crash to desktop simultaneously, then it happens to the CAS pilots as well. Just happened 3 minutes ago on Jabal (2x US APCs CTD and both CAS CTD simultaneously) with confirmation over mumble.

Tested On:
BigD Servers; Jabal Al Burj 64, Muttrah 64

Video Settings:
Does not seem to matter, because it happens to me (everything maxed out, all settings including textures/lighting) and other people who run medium/low for all settings.

[eversmen_br]

Happened two me twice in the same day , every body in the squad that was using a apc got CTD.
PR:BF2 v1.2

[Spook]

Were all crashed vehicles close to each other?

Usually hitting certain objects causes crashes inside of the vehicles and randomly for people close to the area. E.g hitting wooden supply boxes from techies with hellfires on Lashar AAS. I was able te reproduce it on the first try after experiencing that in a live game but after that i could not make it happen again.

check the BR and see if the crash occurred right when engaging something.

[BlackGus]

Same accident in Silent Eagle with APC Puma and after with tank Leopard.

[Arab]

Were all crashed vehicles close to each other?

Usually hitting certain objects causes crashes inside of the vehicles and randomly for people close to the area. E.g hitting wooden supply boxes from techies with hellfires on Lashar AAS. I was able te reproduce it on the first try after experiencing that in a live game but after that i could not make it happen again.

check the BR and see if the crash occurred right when engaging something.

Do you mean that firing the cannon at those wooden supply boxes cause the crash, or ramming them?

[WeeD-KilleR]

Do you mean that firing the cannon at those wooden supply boxes cause the crash, or ramming them?

If Spook is talking about the same situation it was with me on Laskhar. We both CTD when I fired a hydra at those wooden boxes.

[PatrickLA_CA]

I can confirm it happens to CAS choppers as well as jets. I'm not sure was it always the case, but I've noticed most of the times flying jet I've been diving when the CTD occurred.

[Fir3w411]

These CTD are extremely common for me on any jet.

I remember one time I was PLA and was in CAS. The jets had just spawned, my pilot and I took the twin seater. About five minutes in the air, we both CTD simultaneously. I rejoin the server, wait for the other jet. I take off and just like before, CTD. This happened a total of 3 times. All of them in jets.

The worst CTD for me is the mass CTD, I've had amazing rounds squad leading completely ruined because literally seven people in my squad CTD at once, it's really bad..

[Arab]

Basically it affects APCs, CAS and Jets.

[Danesh_italiano]

Well, I noticed this:
Every time you finish loading a game (in the middle of the round), and click in "Assignment Squad", it is possible to hear the explosions of ALL vehicles that have been destroyed in the beginning of the round until the time you entered. And if the vehicle is in the briefing place, you can watch the vehicle "alive" and exploding.
Imagine the detonation every time a new player be get in to the server? May be the excessive of explosion may be causing the server CRASH or CTD for the players.

Much times (not always), during the match, also when I give respawn on the FOB, I also hear the sound of detonation.

[Arab]

Well, I noticed this:
Every time you finish loading a game (in the middle of the round), and click in "Assignment Squad", it is possible to hear the explosions of ALL vehicles that have been destroyed in the beginning of the round until the time you entered. And if the vehicle is in the briefing place, you can watch the vehicle "alive" and exploding.
Imagine the detonation every time a new player be get in to the server? May be the excessive of explosion may be causing the server CRASH or CTD for the players.

Much times (not always), during the match, also when I give respawn on the FOB, I also hear the sound of detonation.

Yeah that's normal, even in vBF2.
It's simply your client synchronizing with the server to keep it up to date with events i.e destroyed vehicles, player positions. Happens when you join a server but 'Deploy' wasn't pressed since ready to join for a long time.

[Mats391]

For devs:

It's most likely that these vehicles don't have proper ai template, hence the vehicles crash after a while.

This is from other modders experience that their weapon causes a CTD.

For example, the jet us_jet_f15 has a ObjectTemplate.aiTemplate pilot_cas_v2_mp_ai line which is invalid.

It should be ObjectTemplate.aiTemplate "name of vehicle" and an AI folder containing objects.ai and weapons.ai in the vehicle folder for all vehicles that AI's can use including parachute.

Doesnt the AI only matter for coop? Seems weird that wrong AI would cause issue with no AI around.

[Arab]

Doesnt the AI only matter for coop? Seems weird that wrong AI would cause issue with no AI around.

Yeah you are right. The AI Template is obviously only for bots, and isn't used for Online mode (Except Online Co-op and Co-op), where it'll display an error message.

[Spectrium]

Muttrah City, E7kp7 sector 7, AAV-7 Gunner.


(Arrow is not the path we followed)


I was gunning AAV-7 with a random guy on Muttrah City. We decided to enter gap between containeers on the picture from north to south for overwatching coast side. When we come to the most southern part of it ctd happened to me. Also I remember that my friends were having ctd issues around this point when they do CAS.

Edit: I do not know what happened to the driver. He was random guy.

I didn't check it again but i will when i find time.

[fabioxxxx]

CTD on Khamisiyah ***: vehicle BMP3 on the main base, me and the gunner and a guy on a BMP2 got CTD at the same time .both APCS where in the main base...some of us entering or changing seats .

Latter on the mach only my driver got CTD on the BMP3 . The only thing i noticed is that he was changing seats on the APC during that time.