Low fps on older hardware but CPU and Grapics Card not at limit?

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ReLo4d
Posts: 2
Joined: 2010-09-11 16:09

Low fps on older hardware but CPU and Grapics Card not at limit?

Post by ReLo4d »

So I can't remember how much fps I got when I first started playing PR but now I get really low fps on some maps and situations. For example on Dragon Fly I get 70 fps in the British base while having around 40 in the city and being near a burning car in the city it gets to 30 fps on an empty server. When I play on a 100 player server I get below 20 fps sometimes which is understandable with this amount of players to get a fps drop but the initial fps drop is what worries me.

I'm by no means a computer pro but I was checking my system while playing in MSI Afterburner and my GPU usage was at 30 %. my vram was around 300 mb and my CPU usage was around 60 % in general but on some cores it was around 60-70 % while spiking to 90 % sometimes but not often.

So is this fps expected from the hardware I have?

Edit: I forgot to mention that changing the graphic settings makes no difference. I get a little less fps if I run the game on high but it really doesn't matter and there is literally no difference between medium and low.

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System Information
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  Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium  (6.1.7601)
      Architecture: 64-bit
   Current Culture: German (Germany)
       Motherboard: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. G31M-S2
         Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz (Physical: 4, Logical: 4) It runs at 2.60GHz tho.
            Memory: 4,00 GB
      DIMM Modules: A0: 2,00 GB @ 800 MHz
                    A1: 2,00 GB @ 800 MHz
         Page File: 1022,21 MB
    .NET Framework: 4.5+ Release Build: 379893, Runtime: 4.0.30319.34209

Display Information
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 Display Device(s): Generic PnP Monitor on NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+
   Display Mode(s): 1440 x 900 (32 bit) @ 60 Hz
    Driver Version: 9.18.13.4052 (340.52)
    Display Memory: 512,00 MB
     Multisampling: 2, 4, 8
               DPI: 96 (100%)

Audio Information
-----------------
  Primary Playback: Lautsprecher (Sound Blaster Pla
 Primary Recording: Mikrofon (Sound Blaster Play! 2
  Open AL Renderer: Software
               EAX: True
           EAX 1.0: False
           EAX 2.0: True
           EAX 3.0: True
           EAX 4.0: True
           EAX 5.0: True
             X-RAM: False

Disk Information
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      Install Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2
                    Free: 26,40 GB, Total: 111,69 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: True
          Mod Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\mods\pr
                    Free: 26,40 GB, Total: 111,69 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: True
     Profiles Path: C:\Users\Administrator\Documents\ProjectReality\Profiles
                    Free: 26,40 GB, Total: 111,69 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: True
    Update DL Path: C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Local\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\Downloads
                    Free: 26,40 GB, Total: 111,69 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: True
   Update Log Path: C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Local\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\UpdateLogs
                    Free: 26,40 GB, Total: 111,69 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: True

Game Information
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    Installed Mods: pr
       Current Mod: pr
           Version: Standalone - 1.0
        PR Version: 1.3.1.0
          Language: english
   Debug Available: False
     Large Address: True
Supported Hardware: None

Profile Information
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      Profile 0001: F>7.62xReLoAd
              Type: Online
 Last Used Profile: True
        View Intro: True
        Fullscreen: True
      Display Mode: 1440x900@60Hz
Display Mode Valid: True
   Graphics Scheme: Custom
     Multisampling: Off
             VSync: False
   Terrain Quality: Low
   Effects Quality: Low
  Geometry Quality: High
   Texture Quality: Medium
  Lighting Quality: Low
   Dynamic Shadows: Off
    Dynamic Lights: Off
 Texture Filtering: Low
    Audio Provider: Software
    Provider Valid: True
     Audio Quality: Medium
               EAX: True
DC_K
Posts: 508
Joined: 2010-07-21 11:27

Re: Low fps on older hardware but CPU and Grapics Card not at limit?

Post by DC_K »

PR is a cpu intensive game and only utilizes 1 core, no way around it. it sounds to me that your fps is normal for your hardware. i've got an i7 4770k @ 3.5 ghz and i never get a consistent fps of 60, it fluctuates a lot. also depends on the map and gamemode (ins will be more intensive since players are collected in 1 place.. well, supposed to be at least.)

make sure you have any other programs running that you don't need at that instance closed.
PLODDITHANLEY
Posts: 3608
Joined: 2009-05-02 19:44

Re: Low fps on older hardware but CPU and Grapics Card not at limit?

Post by PLODDITHANLEY »

I have this and its just about playable, i think PR is very CPU speed dependant mine has a built in 16% overclock I switch on for PR so it's at 2.8ghz ish.

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System Information
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  Operating System: Microsoft Windows?7 ?dition Familiale Premium  (6.1.7601)
      Architecture: 64 bits
   Current Culture: French (France)
       Motherboard: MSI MS-1722
         Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8600  @ 2.40GHz (Physical: 2, Logical: 2)
            Memory: 4,00 GB
         Page File: 4,00 GB
    .NET Framework: Unknown

Display Information
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 Display Device(s): Moniteur Plug-and-Play g?n?rique on NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT        
   Display Mode(s): 1824 x 1026 (32 bit) @ 60 Hz
    Driver Version: 9.18.13.4052 (340.52)
    Display Memory: 512,00 MB
     Multisampling: 2, 4, 8
               DPI: 120 (125%)

Audio Information
-----------------
  Primary Playback: Casque (P?riph?rique High Defin
 Primary Recording: Microphone (P?riph?rique High D
  Open AL Renderer: Software
               EAX: True
           EAX 1.0: False
           EAX 2.0: True
           EAX 3.0: False
           EAX 4.0: False
           EAX 5.0: False
             X-RAM: False

Disk Information
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      Install Path: C:\Games\Project Reality BF2
                    Free: 150,29 GB, Total: 297,99 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
          Mod Path: C:\Games\Project Reality BF2\mods\pr
                    Free: 150,29 GB, Total: 297,99 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
     Profiles Path: C:\Users\Lydia\Documents\ProjectReality\Profiles
                    Free: 150,29 GB, Total: 297,99 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
    Update DL Path: C:\Users\Lydia\AppData\Local\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\Downloads
                    Free: 150,29 GB, Total: 297,99 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
   Update Log Path: C:\Users\Lydia\AppData\Local\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\UpdateLogs
                    Free: 150,29 GB, Total: 297,99 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False

Game Information
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    Installed Mods: pr
       Current Mod: pr
           Version: Standalone - 1.0
        PR Version: 1.3.1.0
          Language: english
   Debug Available: False
     Large Address: True
Supported Hardware: None

Profile Information
-------------------
      Profile 0001: ploddit
              Type: Online
 Last Used Profile: True
        View Intro: False
        Fullscreen: True
      Display Mode: 1824x1026@60Hz
Display Mode Valid: True
   Graphics Scheme: Custom
     Multisampling: Off
             VSync: False
   Terrain Quality: Low
   Effects Quality: Medium
  Geometry Quality: Low
   Texture Quality: Medium
  Lighting Quality: Low
   Dynamic Shadows: Off
    Dynamic Lights: Off
 Texture Filtering: Low
    Audio Provider: Software
    Provider Valid: True
     Audio Quality: Medium
               EAX: True
Sadist_Cain
Posts: 1208
Joined: 2007-08-22 14:47

Re: Low fps on older hardware but CPU and Grapics Card not at limit?

Post by Sadist_Cain »

PLODDITHANLEY wrote:I have this and its just about playable, i think PR is very CPU speed dependant mine has a built in 16% overclock I switch on for PR so it's at 2.8ghz ish.

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System Information
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  Operating System: Microsoft Windows?7 ?dition Familiale Premium  (6.1.7601)
      Architecture: 64 bits
   Current Culture: French (France)
       Motherboard: MSI MS-1722
         Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8600  @ 2.40GHz (Physical: 2, Logical: 2)
            Memory: 4,00 GB
         Page File: 4,00 GB
    .NET Framework: Unknown

Display Information
-------------------
 Display Device(s): Moniteur Plug-and-Play g?n?rique on NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT        
   Display Mode(s): 1824 x 1026 (32 bit) @ 60 Hz
    Driver Version: 9.18.13.4052 (340.52)
    Display Memory: 512,00 MB
     Multisampling: 2, 4, 8
               DPI: 120 (125%)

Audio Information
-----------------
  Primary Playback: Casque (P?riph?rique High Defin
 Primary Recording: Microphone (P?riph?rique High D
  Open AL Renderer: Software
               EAX: True
           EAX 1.0: False
           EAX 2.0: True
           EAX 3.0: False
           EAX 4.0: False
           EAX 5.0: False
             X-RAM: False

Disk Information
----------------
      Install Path: C:\Games\Project Reality BF2
                    Free: 150,29 GB, Total: 297,99 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
          Mod Path: C:\Games\Project Reality BF2\mods\pr
                    Free: 150,29 GB, Total: 297,99 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
     Profiles Path: C:\Users\Lydia\Documents\ProjectReality\Profiles
                    Free: 150,29 GB, Total: 297,99 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
    Update DL Path: C:\Users\Lydia\AppData\Local\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\Downloads
                    Free: 150,29 GB, Total: 297,99 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
   Update Log Path: C:\Users\Lydia\AppData\Local\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\UpdateLogs
                    Free: 150,29 GB, Total: 297,99 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False

Game Information
----------------
    Installed Mods: pr
       Current Mod: pr
           Version: Standalone - 1.0
        PR Version: 1.3.1.0
          Language: english
   Debug Available: False
     Large Address: True
Supported Hardware: None

Profile Information
-------------------
      Profile 0001: ploddit
              Type: Online
 Last Used Profile: True
        View Intro: False
        Fullscreen: True
      Display Mode: 1824x1026@60Hz
Display Mode Valid: True
   Graphics Scheme: Custom
     Multisampling: Off
             VSync: False
   Terrain Quality: Low
   Effects Quality: Medium
  Geometry Quality: Low
   Texture Quality: Medium
  Lighting Quality: Low
   Dynamic Shadows: Off
    Dynamic Lights: Off
 Texture Filtering: Low
    Audio Provider: Software
    Provider Valid: True
     Audio Quality: Medium
               EAX: True
Very strange, my Q6700 is at 3ghz and doesn't get pushed to its limit yet the game is nigh unplayable.
Tried using process lasso to no avail.
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DesmoLocke
Posts: 1770
Joined: 2008-11-28 19:47

Re: Low fps on older hardware but CPU and Grapics Card not at limit?

Post by DesmoLocke »

Like everyone has said, PR has become very CPU intensive as the game is single threaded. It's an old game built on an old engine pushed to its limits. The larger maps and 100 players has knocked a lot of older and newer processors to their knees. I suggest overclocking as high as you can go or upgrade to a shiny new i7 4790k. It currently has the best single thread performance scores according to Passmark.

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