SV-98 Sniper - Why isn't it a one shot kill? (Like the other SRs)

Bonecrusher76
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SV-98 Sniper - Why isn't it a one shot kill? (Like the other SRs)

Post by Bonecrusher76 »

Why isn't the SV-98 (Green skinned Russian sniper rifle) a one shot kill? All of the other sniper rifles in the game are, and the real SV-98 fires a round very similar to the NATO 7.62mm sniper rifles, so this isn't at all realistic. Requiring multiple hits makes it pretty worthless as a sniper rifle.

For example, I was in a bush with the SV-98, and hit an enemy medic at close range. The medic went prone behind a tree, dropped all of his patches, and I hit him again when he got up. He then proceeded to kill me. Every other sniper rifle in the game would have dropped him in one hit, but not the SV-98. This needs to be fixed.
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Jacksonez__
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Post by Jacksonez__ »

It's horrible sniper rifle. It seems to have odd deviation and the damage is just bad. It's just bad, very bad sniper rifle.
W.Darwin
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Post by W.Darwin »

IS it the Russian Sniper? Because the russian sniper with the green skin is really a worthless kit.

I could shoot the same guy 2-3 times with maximum accuracy while proned without result.

(And I know how to use snipers)
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Re: SV-98 Sniper - Why isn't it a one shot kill? (Like the other SRs)

Post by Souls Of Mischief »

Hits to the limbs should be instakill. Last I used it that was the case and getting frags wasn't too hard.
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Post by Murphy »

Dear people saying they hit targets multiple times and they stand,

You are likely missing shots, this weapon is not an instant kill to factions with body armor but as stated a limb or head shot will grant you an instant kill. I have had plenty of rounds where I rack up many many kills (Kashan is a snipers playground if you avoid being spotted early on), and I feel that while this weapon is surely the bottom of the barrel where bolt-actions are concerned it is still a very deadly weapon in it's own right.

I don't think it warrants a massive damage buff, players need to accept that you need to place your shots accordingly.
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Post by Jacksonez__ »

Souls Of Mischief wrote:Hits to the limbs should be instakill. Last I used it that was the case and getting frags wasn't too hard.
The British sniper is one-shot kill in body area, I usually get a lot of kills with it in Burning Sands. It has very little deviation. The Russian sniper is completely contrary.
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All snipers are one shot kills to the chest, lag affects hit detection more than you think even :(
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Post by Bonecrusher76 »

The SV-98 (green Russian sniper) damage should be raised from 82 damage to the same damage as the other sniper rifles (90). I have a lot of in-game sniper time, very rarely miss, and I'm telling you, the SV-98 does normally require two shots to kill, while the other sniper rifles are all one shot. I originally thought the drop/deviation on the SV-98 was drastically different (before I looked at the config files) because I couldn't understand why I kept "missing." I finally realized that I wasn't missing, it just wasn't one shotting because of the lower damage.

I understand what you are saying about body armor, but the reality is ballistic plates will stop a FMJ 7.62x51mm NATO round just as easily as they will stop the 7.62x54R Russian round, so it doesn't make sense in-game for the NATO rifles to be one shot kills on the chest area while the SV-98 isn't. The rounds are very very similar. I'm not asking for a "massive buff." I just want it to have the same damage as the other rifles. I'm telling you, the slightly lower damage makes a huge difference in game. The game doesn't accurately model body armor anyway, because if it did, the 9mm pistol wouldn't be capable of making chest shots at all, but it is, in-game.

Please buff SV-98 to do same damage as the other sniper rifles, it is currently garbage.
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Post by Bonecrusher76 »

Bonecrusher76 wrote: The rounds are very very similar.
I just compared the 7.62x54R and the 7.62x51mm with a ballistics calculator, they are, in terms of energy, substantially similar (in real life).
Murphy wrote:I have had plenty of rounds where I rack up many many kills (Kashan is a snipers playground if you avoid being spotted early on)
The SV-98 (Green Russian Sniper Rifle) is not used at all on Kashan... you are using one of the other rifles (which are not garbage) to get your "many many kills."
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IIRC, Russian sniper rifle were one of those sniper rifles that had different zeroing. That is, you have to find a sweet spot for longer ranges (I guess aim a bit higher in distances above 500-600 m).

I don't this kit almost at all, but last time at the last 15 minutes of Beirut I took it and used it by successfully engaging IDF soldiers from the big T (the biggest in this map) - they were building a big FOB across the river (NW side of it) at the Apartment Buildings flag (or what's it called) just across the river. It's like 500 meters. It was in the first version of 1.3. But actually I don't remember aiming higher (I just read in PR wiki or somewhere else that Russian sniper has a bit different optics/zeroing), but that's probably because my targets weren't further than 500-600 meters away.

And I had no problems whatsoever to onehit-kill people.
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Post by SANGUE-RUIM »

I also agree that this should be changed, I tested this rifle offline shoting bots point-blank standing still over and over and it doesn't kill them with one shot, unless it's a headshot
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SANGUE-RUIM wrote:I also agree that this should be changed, I tested this rifle offline shoting bots point-blank standing still over and over and it doesn't kill them with one shot, unless it's a headshot
I have also tried shooting bots point blank with it offline, and had the same results. It will not one shot.
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Bonecrusher76 wrote:I just compared the 7.62x54R and the 7.62x51mm with a ballistics calculator, they are, in terms of energy, substantially similar (in real life).



The SV-98 (Green Russian Sniper Rifle) is not used at all on Kashan... you are using one of the other rifles (which are not garbage) to get your "many many kills."

You just compared?

Do you mean you have in your hands 2 different snipers using those ammunition type? AND a ballistic calculator?

Buddy, you're equipped :o
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Re: SV-98 Sniper - Why isn't it a one shot kill? (Like the other SRs)

Post by solidfire93 »

too much Drama around here !

i killed moving target with it(one shot), first time picked it up on Dover !

sniper is better for Ins mode(intel points to find cache), in AAS is a waste of time and Assets...
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Post by Murphy »

Oh you're actually right, it's the SSGP1 (MEC Sniper sucks compared to RUS sniper so I just assumed that's what you mean as the MEC sniper rifle is worst). According to PR WIKI you are all over exaggerating the SV-98 problem.

SSGP1 - ProjectReality Wiki - Wikia

SV-98 - ProjectReality Wiki - Wikia

Although it might be out of date.
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Murphy wrote:According to PR WIKI you are all over exaggerating the SV-98 problem.
I don't think we are all imagining it... would one of the devs please chime in?
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I picked up the SVD (my bad) yesterday on Ramiel and was shooting some Americans in the desert no more than 200 meters away standing still.

Not a single hit while fully deviated.

Someone told me while deployed it has some bug? Has anyone else experienced this?
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Re: SV-98 Sniper - Why isn't it a one shot kill? (Like the other SRs)

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Fir3w411 wrote:I picked up the SV98 yesterday on Ramiel and was shooting some Americans in the desert no more than 200 meters away standing still.

Not a single hit while fully deviated.

Someone told me while deployed it has some bug? Has anyone else experienced this?
Where do you find SV98 in Ramiel..?
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Jacksonez__ wrote:Where do you find SV98 in Ramiel..?
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