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Re: 3ds max 9

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Would have though that 64x64 is already too much for the bin :D

@Darwin
We already have different smaller rocks that mappers can use to build cliffs. Another example of that would be Baracuda supply fort at the water fall. There is a pretty nice cliff. Of course those "lego-cliffs" are less optimized than custom made ones, but allow lots of freedom for mappers. Also cliffs and rocks are not that hard to make, any mapper could easily make some themselves i think :)
Also we are limited at how many statics we add. The first limit is disc space. Every new static will make the installation bigger. This is not that big of a problem since PR is still tiny compared to modern games, but should still be considered.
The second and more problematic limit is through the way the BF2 engine loads stuff. Basically it loads everything and then sorts out what it needs and unloads not needed stuff again. Those are the reasons why we do not add stuff that someone somewhere might use some time. We actually are doing the opposite and are trying to remove things that are not used by any of our core maps.

@Rhino
Need more pics of rocks please, way more entertaining than that stupid boat :p
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Re: 3ds max 9

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Basically it loads everything and then sorts out what it needs and unloads not needed stuff again.

O_o ...........

Well....

If it unload unneeded content...
Bottom line this means longer Map-loading.. And thats all.

From the information you give me, the only thing I conclude is it would not influence in-game performance even if we had 20 000 different rocks type

Need more pics of rocks please, way more entertaining than that stupid boat
You mean this new playable asset that everyone talk about who defy the limits of BF2 engine? That ''stupid'' boat?

hehe :P
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Longer map loading AND higher chance of client crash on map load. I know a couple of people already crash after a couple of maps as they run out of memory due to BF2 shitty memory management. Once in game only the rocks placed on the map would matter.
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Re: 3ds max 9

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That really is a major flaw.

I can see now that PR lifetime will have an expiration date...

Unless some badass programmers come put a touch of excellence in the core. And modify these weaknesses.
Like the fact that BF2 will only use 1 processor in your computer..

With 20+ Gig's games of todays, I thought there was space for incredible amount of new content and therefore alot of potential for PR future.

But everything is stretched to its maximum already O_o


Unless one day you decide to give it a fresh new start and remove all the map, return to Zero and
make new content but this time with all the knowledge gathered in the past years to only release extremely optimized maps/meshes/animation/sounds/TEXTURES.. etc etc

Haha, textures palettes needs to be redone :P
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This wont put an expiration date on PR. These limits have been there since the beginning and we added quite some content. There is also room for more, but we would rather not spend it on statics that may never be used :) We have a repository full of all sorts of models that were no longer used in PR and got removed (some because they were broken). Our mappers can get stuff from there or if they need something special they ask for it.
I really do not want to stop you from creating statics, but just explain why they might never be used. Your flowerpot, bin and bus station all seem to be for more modern urban maps just like the skyscrapers. Making prop sets for new environments is always nice especially if you are working together with a mapper that currently works on a map for it (turkish_moose). I would continue that path instead of making things that you think should be added to existing maps. Even if the community mappers might not ask for it directly, you can just look at what maps are being made and then create something you would like to see. E.g. elephant skeletons for Sahel :p
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Re: 3ds max 9

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Yeah that's where my aim was pointed at you know...
Rocks..

That's somekind of stuff u can place pretty much everywhere
Teehee
(And don't deny it, the topographic aspect in the big majority of PR maps lacks of Rocky realism)

But yeah, putting your nose in other people project to offer your help sometime is an effective way to create awesome product...

Or get slapped in the face

But hey, who dare cares
(I just made that up)




Anyhow, unless you had specific intention for the Machbet, I intended to chill.
Once in a while I rationalize and to be honest, I negleted alot my life in the last 3 weeks

(I was literally only modelling in 3dsmax days n' night)

I might get back in shape and comeback with a regular pace


Since anyway my intensity was not welcomed, I will adopt a slower mood
Or maybe i'll just do stuff on demand like I wrote in my signature











Edit:

Look, 2 things that lacks in pr maps

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Clean cutting edges

And bushes.. Alot of bushes, mixed with rocks
Because, thats how it looks like IRL
(Maybe with a new set of bushes optimized to be stacked in groups
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The Machbet would replace the Avenger as AAV for the IDF. But that is future stuff and not for next patch or anything, so take your time. I know the feeling of spending too much on modding PR. Right now i should be learning for physics exam and lurking forums instead :p
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Re: 3ds max 9

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I believe that's one of the PR crew motto uhh?

'' So take your time ''


Hehe
:mrgreen:








I can'T do those rocks rhino im sorry

I leave Project Reality


The community died

Admins are big faggots in servers

Players are also faggots

talking like internet trollz and shit




I can't stand this shit anymore,

GG

Epic game, shit playerbase

rotten admins


Im out




I was just banned from a server because listen to that story


-I take the commander post to setup a FOB in fallujah, server is seeding, 25v25 ...
-The fob fails to be properly defended, the Squad Leaders do as they want, I setup Waypoint around the Fob where I ask to setup razorwire to make a larger perimeter of secured area, The SL's setups defenses inside the M11'ish compound and only camp inside the walls

Ied's

no more fob.

''sigh''

I respawn in main, Wait for other players to spawn to get in my Jeep,
A guy respawn and take an other jeep alone.
I stop him by blocking the exit of Blufor main with my own jeep

I repeat him '' Hey , lets get in the same vehicle, don't waste this jeep man ''
-Doesn't listen, get blown up in arch

-I tell him he is an idiot, He replies me this round is not important.
- He is now mad that i called him an idiot, He keeps trolling me in the chat

-I report him for being arrogant, insulting me, and wasting assets, he get's warned.

-He is then more angry and come at me when i'm building a new Forward outpost and shoot me in the head and keeps saying '' Ban me, ban me man? come on, DO IT, ban me ''

- I report him again, Admins write '' Don't make false report ''

WTF?!

I respawn, Try to discuss with the admins, he clearly doesn't give a fuck.

When no justice is made by the official, its the street justice that must be done.
I go back at him, take revenge, Then get warned


All in all, I never really fuck with anyone, to begin with I asked the noob to play in teamwork, where he flipped a finger at me.

I called him an idiot and at this point he just kept fucking with me, while I was passive to his behavior

When he Tked me it was too much,

I tked back and thats ONLY at this point that admins decided to intervene.

When the admin warns me I told him '' Shut up man '' since he did nothing for his TK but warns me when i revenge for his innaction toward the first offender to begin with



Now im banned.


wtf

fuck this shit

im outta here


cancerous people


Maybe i'm the problem but ? doubt it because I had formidable rounds being Commander, Squad LEader, Infantry, CAS, Tank.. Anything. As long as there was mature players around


And the few times I played with mature admins on



Its being more rare





Thats why i suggested an official PR server back then.

We need something serious with mature administration.

This game is going to shit because the in-game players are not being controlled by righteous administrator




Most of admins are immature power-tripping people.


If an admin cannot even look at the game log to identify a Teamkiller that was being reported for trolling 5 minutes ago That's what I call a shitty admin




I'd rather be dealing with insect and monsters than this kind of humanity, at least I would know what to expect from the other living things that surrounds me.


This is just bullshit to deal with humans that are half brained


I'm out now, going to meditate and pray for karma to make its job



I mean.. the player base is not so bad, we got epic people and I role-played with many charismatic mens so far (that's when the game is the most epic)

But only ONE admin can fuck up the mood of an entire server
Admins are so important
And most of them are fucking shit










Sorry for the spam, I didnt see any option to delete my profile in this forum , so I'll just get banned

Good luck :)
Sorry..

I'm done with the virtual life and virtual video-game.. Next time I'm playing a game, it's going to be in real life, and If I meet a faggot like I meet in video game, i'll just fucking shut-him up with my fist

Stupid internet faggot, loud mouth whimps
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So no rocks?
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Re: 3ds max 9

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Was looking forward to new rocks in PR
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Re: 3ds max 9

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maybe some arma style stallinium rocks?
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hades198 wrote:maybe some arma style stallinium rocks?
Shut up hades, you aren't even in Australia.
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Re: 3ds max 9

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Did this guy catch a bad case of Daniel syndrome or what
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Re: 3ds max 9

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lolwat. What the actual fuck happened here.
Hahahahaha
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Re: 3ds max 9

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WOW!
I guess working too much makes you crazy and PR was all he had.I admired him for his modelling enthusiasm. When i was a newbie, i too got banned from servers,but then i learned what was permitted and how to operate on the battlefield and so forth.
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Re: 3ds max 9

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The amount of weird people that PR attracts never ceases to amaze me.
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Re: 3ds max 9

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He couldn't handle BF2's memory management.

RIP
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Locked thread.
Sad to see you go, despite being annoying at times i certainly was looking forward to your progress :)
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