About MEC

[Gerfand]

MEC is a fictional faction in BF2, very inspired by Iraq Troops, but w/ some upgrades that give an more symetrical and "balanced" gameplay to BF2

Because PR had a bunch of assets there they decied to stay w/ this fictional faction...

and this is the point, it's a fictional faction, so should they get fictional equipament?
Not some high tech thing like an T-14 or T-90SM, but something like an t-72 variant w/ good armor, or even a fictional in house variant(as MEC would be something like the CSAT from ARMA 3 or PAC from BF2142)

[Mineral]

Not a pure fictional faction. They are based on Middle Eastern countries and their forces. Their ground infantry mostly mirror the Iran Forces as far as I know. T72 variants have been mentioned elsewhere to be coming to PR MEC has the biggest variety of assets in PR (not counting all PR US forces as 1) so I doubt they need more to make their force more varied.

Also we a have a suggestion section on the forum for this.

[Jacksonez__]

Devs could give MEC The Asad Babil tank.


jokes, it's actually worse than T-72M1

[X-Alt]

Devs could give MEC The Asad Babil tank.


jokes, it's actually worse than T-72M1

The Asad Babil wasn't all that bad. Armchair generals try to cite it as a defense of the T-72M1, when in reality they never stood a chance even with the best tanks in the world.

[Rabbit]

M60, or better yet T-34!

[X-Alt]

M60, or better yet T-34!

Give them a T-90, realism can go drown in a pool for all I care.

[RAWSwampFox]

Also we a have a suggestion section on the forum for this.

Good Afternoon,

If you expect a quick response from the suggestion forum, don't, posting there is almost like posting in a black hole. No one ever knows where it goes. I posted a suggestion a year or so ago and I haven't seen it at all. Posted one a few days ago, still haven't seen anything. One thing that I do see is a ton of old polls and threads getting locked.

[M42 Zwilling]

Good Afternoon,

If you expect a quick response from the suggestion forum, don't, posting there is almost like posting in a black hole. No one ever knows where it goes. I posted a suggestion a year or so ago and I haven't seen it at all. Posted one a few days ago, still haven't seen anything. One thing that I do see is a ton of old polls and threads getting locked.

It seems you didn't read the thread called "IMPORTANT - READ FIRST". The threads are only visible to devs/mods by default, though we can unhide them if we want more public discussion and input on a topic. Don't worry, your suggestions do get read. Doing it this way must save the moderators a ton of time - you wouldn't believe some of the stuff that appears in there now and then.

[Gerfand]

Not a pure fictional faction. They are based on Middle Eastern countries and their forces. Their ground infantry mostly mirror the Iran Forces as far as I know. T72 variants have been mentioned elsewhere to be coming to PR MEC has the biggest variety of assets in PR (not counting all PR US forces as 1) so I doubt they need more to make their force more varied.

Also we a have a suggestion section on the forum for this.

we I know, they are very based on real factions, to a point that it could be almost renamed to Iran, but yet they don't exist, so for this reason I am asking everyone w/ this thread (and this is why I didn't putted on suggestion) if would be a good idea to bring fictional equipment (at least for the factions that it's based on, like the BMP-3), as being a union they would be richer than a country alone, and would probably also have a cooperation for developing new equipment...

EDIT- In reality I was just make this because the T-72 will get a nerf in the future...

[RAWSwampFox]

M42 Zwilling;2126898']It seems you didn't read the thread called "IMPORTANT - READ FIRST". The threads are only visible to devs/mods by default, though we can unhide them if we want more public discussion and input on a topic. Don't worry, your suggestions do get read. Doing it this way must save the moderators a ton of time - you wouldn't believe some of the stuff that appears in there now and then.

Good Evening,

Yep, I did. It's like Congress here in the USA.

1. Person writes bill.
2. Sub-committee cusses and discusses.
3. Full committee does more cussing and discussing
4. Brought to the floor for more cussing and discussing
5. Vote - passes
6. Goes to next level of Congress
7. Someone sponsors it or it just gets moved on to the next sub-committee
8. 2-5 repeated
9. Brought to the joint committee that reconciles both bills
10. Final bill sent to the President for signature.
11. Bill is legally challenged
12. It works it's way through 4-5 courts
13. Finally gets to Supreme Court
Process repeats

And as SpongeBob says, 3 centuries later, the post appears.

Does that pretty much cover it?

Sorry - do not mean to hijack thread. There are times though that something does warrant a poke.

Besides all this, sometimes I do really wonder what drives the armor choices certain factions/maps have. I mean, the U.N. Forces armor is totally useless, IMO and MEC does get the short end of the stick most of the time with Armor but on some, you would think that OPEC is raising the price of oil the way they have tons of Armor. Go figure.

[camo]

Does that pretty much cover it?

God no, this ain't no democracy!
If it's a new suggestion with valid points its approved, if it's stupid or has been suggested before we deny it, no point going in circles.

Besides all this, sometimes I do really wonder what drives the armor choices certain factions/maps have. I mean, the U.N. Forces armor is totally useless, IMO and MEC does get the short end of the stick most of the time with Armor but on some, you would think that OPEC is raising the price of oil the way they have tons of Armor. Go figure.

It's driven by balance, for most factions it's relatively easy, 2 ifv vs 2 ifv, 1 tank vs 1 tank. It only gets complicated when some factions either don't have a certain asset, or dont have a very good version of it. e.g the British on burning sands, the warrior is no match for the bmp's so they're given an extra tank to make up for it.

As for U.N. (guessing you mean french) and MEC armour? I disagree with your opinion on both to be honest. The leclerc is arguably one of the best tanks in the game right now with it's faster fire rate and the VBCI is a pretty good ifv, and for mec the t72 is just average while the bmp's for mec are easily some of the best.
Perhaps you were talking about the VAB's and BTR's? They're just thin skinned transport to most people, can't really expect them to stand up to anything other than small arms.

[rPoXoTauJIo]

BTR-60>VAB.
It has optics, and 14.5 AP and HEI rounds.
As a drawback, it's more tend to barrel roll.

[Gazza Sparkle]

Can somebody tell me why they got rid of the blue UN helmets and the white vehicles? I'd really like to see that return.

[camo]

Can somebody tell me why they got rid of the blue UN helmets and the white vehicles? I'd really like to see that return.

They're still there on the insurgency layer.

[UTurista]

... it's a fictional faction, so should they get fictional equipament?... something like an t-72 variant w/ good armor...

T-72 has thermals and can kill a M1A2 tank, that seems pretty fictional to me.

And like Mineral said, MEC is meant to be a fictional coalition between existing countries, so the idea is that MEC can only have equipment that those countries use.

[Navo]

Give them a T-90, realism can go drown in a pool for all I care.

Syria operates the T-90 now.

Can somebody tell me why they got rid of the blue UN helmets and the white vehicles? I'd really like to see that return.

The French on marlin were originally intended to fight the IDF which is why they had UN skins. Sadly the devs decided to be boring.

[>para<]

MEC are well represented with armor and equipmentm its not the things you have, its the things you know, on khamisiyah me and some other dude the name was BicepsBrah , so we got BMP 2 M and we where stationed at south from the factory wich we have to defend it with that uber mashine we covered in about 1/3 from the map we took out few bradleys and abrams not to mention trucks and squads trying to make fobs ,chopers and Offsprey after few destroyed machines they avoid us we had to go to the east side, MEC are one of the best equped armies even functional.

[Jagira]

T-72 has thermals and can kill a M1A2 tank, that seems pretty fictional to me.

But the T-72 does have thermals.

[M42 Zwilling]

Not the T-72M1, it has only a IR sight that would be damaged if used in daytime.

[ZektorSK]

Every fifth thread is about MEC....

Was some update today ? Or I am missing something ?