PRTA EU2

[FFG]

And just to drill it home.

Just the other day, someone posted on reddit saying " ohh CBF making an account on based to appeal a ban"

So you know what the senior admin did? he investigated the issue tried to resolve the situation.

You know why he did that? Because you don't run game servers to make your life easy, you run game servers so people play the game they love in a place that will allow them to.

So now, the bar has been set. Can you please catch up with the rest of the community?



- FFG
Former lead admin PRTA NA
Senior Admin BASED NA

[disnoxxio]

I think it's time for a cool down here.

[Geekius]

What I said was if it was not on our forums, theres no way it will be handled properly.

Perhaps i should have said though, it most likely will not be handled properly. We dont have either the time nor resources to scour every other forum where prta players might reside looking for problems to correct. We actually have an active server to run, y'kno.

If a problem requires our attention, the easiest way to get it fixed is to bring it to our attention, on our forum. If youre banned, make a ban appeal, if you want to report a problem, through the reports and requests forum.

Geekius
Senior Administrator
PR EU
PRTA

[Mats391]

There is a really simple solution - when you absolutely feel the need to run a squad without an SL kit don't go to the only? server where it is against the rules.

It maybe a silly rule or maybe it isn't but it is a rule. There.

Well as i said before, sometimes NwA is playing Fallujah/Muttrah once again and BASED is on another desert marathon, then i consider PRTA if they run maps i am more interested in. The other reason i would join is if someone i want to play with is already on the server. Usually playing there is no issue either as most admins and players are no problem at all. The only issues arise if you have some admin that enforces all the weird rules they have or players that force admins to do so by reporting players.
For example i can play totally fine on pretty much any server by simply following a couple of rules every server agrees on, such as:
1. Dont be ****. No griefing, TK, etc.
2. No baserape.
3. Asset rule.
the only real differences between servers come from minor things like when you are allowed to create squad or how many players required to lock. Except for PRTA. They also have those base rules, but in addition to those even more that you might not even be aware of. Such as banning the word "recon" from squad names or forcing SLs to take officers. Luckily they changed their asset rule back to something more reasonable, but it still is different to other servers which can also result in problematic situations depending on admins/players.
Some time ago PRTA was one of the servers trying to unify rules across servers, now it seems to be the server that is the furthest away from it.

[Mineral]

I play PR every month or so now, so when I joined PRTA I was baffled by the rules. When a ruleset is so un-logical and so counter-intuitive to somebody that plays this game for a few years, then you know these rules make little sense.

If we wanted SL's to run around with squad-leader only then we would have coded that in by now I think. It makes so little sense to me. With so many kits in game, so many are necessary for certain situations. To tell a SL to not use it by rule, just to avoid certain squads using the slot for the wrong reasons just seems like lazy admins to me.

Same when I made a APC squad and I was told to join the armour squad... I co-invented the armour squad back when we ran 200p servers and had the real need for 9 squads to fill all the infantry. But back then we also had squads of up to 14 players. It was hectic but we had no choice. The rule was removed when 200p was gone cause the rule didn't work anymore. And let's not think about the classification of armour you are using...


And denying recon squads is idiotic as well. Some players are actually really good at it. And if you think you will abolish the playstyle of those who aren't good at it by denying one squad name you aren't thinking straight.

Why does MECH INF get priority over APC's? Are they better? More common to win games? Why are they suddenly the masters of APC's?


The fact that I don't know if I can yell at an admin or not when typing !admins doesn't help neither.

As mats says, rules should be extremely straight forward and logical to the longest veteran and the newest player. Players that don't have logical sense need to be reminded of it by the admins, that's their job. Otherwise remove said players. My time on the server was short lived and unpleasant. With so little PR servers to choose from it surely makes a lot of people go play other games instead I reckon.

This might seem as 'oh everyone is jumping on the hate-PRTA bandwagon and bashing everything we have', but quite frankly it's time you guys see the light again and un-fuck the server-rules and admin-staff. It's clear PRTA is run by knowledged and talented guys in lots of departments, but the PRBF2 server department has been broken for far too long.

[FFG]

If a problem requires our attention, the easiest way to get it fixed is to bring it to our attention, on our forum. If youre banned, make a ban appeal, if you want to report a problem, through the reports and requests forum.

[Heskey]

Mineral and Mats, cheers for your posts. I think you've both made some very valid points and I'm making sure they're brought to the attention of the relevant people

[Danger_6]

PR servers these days are run by insecure and childish adults or actual children.

GG PR, was nice knowing you.

[Reaperspr0digy]

Mineral and Mats, cheers for your posts. I think you've both made some very valid points and I'm making sure they're brought to the attention of the relevant people

I'm sorry, but this just seems incredibly two faced. From what I have seen people have been telling you the exact same thing for months and nothing has been done about it. In fact, the response seems to be "if you don't like it, don't play here" or "its just rival communities with agendas." However, since 2 devs told you the exact same thing, they're suddenly "very valid points" and you're brining it up to your superiors?

[Heskey]

Reaper, you say "telling you" as if we're part of some hive-mind collective. I am not part of PRTA's PR admin team and even if I were, I have other commitments and don't get the time to play PR half as much as I'd like, let alone keep up with the incessant melodrama that's slowly-but-surely bringing this modification to its knees - which means suggestions posted elsewhere may not have caught my eye. I've never had an issue with you - or any dealings for that matter, but you insult me by lumping me in with the pigheadedness of people who say things like "if you don't like it, don't play here", so please, give me some credit and cut it out.

Suffice to say after pages and pages on this thread of unveiled bashing, two people have actually put forward some good points - and not only that, but have done so in a non-offensive and constructive way. So yes, having seen those two posts, I've brought it to the PR admin team's attention for them to give their consideration. The fact that they are R-DEV's makes absolutely no difference to me, personally. If anyone posted an idea that I thought was good in the same mature manner and I saw it, I'd do exactly the same thing.

Though it seems I cannot win, for I am called 'two-faced' for trying to suggest improvements, but the PRTA server will continue to be bashed unless such suggestions are brought to the relevant people's attention.

How dare I try and improve something. Silly me. Bad Heskey.

[Fir3w411]

I don't care what happens on other forums to be honest. If someone wants to bring something to our attention, do it via our forums otherwise there's no way it can be handled properly.

Then suddenly two glorious R-DEVs post their views on this, after many people had done so in the same way, most notably a page or two back - before people got fed up, and now it is worth bringing it up to the masterminds behind it all.

Not even before this shit-parade began when the server rules fucked themselves did ths kind of attention exist here.

[Heskey]

I'm a member of the community and a player on the server. I'm perfectly entitled to bring good suggestions to the attention of those with the power to change things. Some of you seem to be smearing me with the same tar brush and treating me as guilty-by-association.

But by all means, keep it up. We will all tear this mod apart by the end of the year if we carry on at each other's throats like this, I guarantee it. I'm sure it looks like a real fun place for new people to come, relax and unwind after a hard day at work or after putting the kids to bed etc.

Am I the only person who isn't trying to bring the walls down around us?

(and by 'us', I mean everyone who plays this mod.)

[fecht_niko]

Am I the only person who isn't trying to bring the walls down around us?

(and by 'us', I mean everyone who plays this mod.)

Sadly you are one of the few in PRTA who is trying that... Thats why most people here have a good opinion about you unlike the PRTA_ADMIN/MANAGER_CHILD_DEVISION

[Cossack]

Sorry Hesky, but it seems Management of PRTA apparently does not share your views with you and rest of community.

[iglotruck]

I'm sure it looks like a real fun place for new people to come, relax and unwind after a hard day at work or after putting the kids to bed etc.

That's what PRTA is all about though. Bring in the new people and teach them how not to play PR. You guys just keep doing what you're doing.

[SserpensS]

Moderators, what is the possibility of closing this thread and opening a new one? As the OP is not a member of PRTA anymore and the OP post is quite...ehm...not representative..

[LiamBai]

If I remember correctly Mats locked this thread a while ago so a new one could be created. Nothing was, so he unlocked it again.

Just send any of the mods a PM to close this and they'll oblige I'm sure.

[SserpensS]

Thank you Liam. We will.

[FFG]

Server seeded on basrah, was a shit show. Went to muttrah, shit show. No admins.

[solidfire93]

Server seeded on basrah, was a shit show. Went to muttrah, shit show. No admins.

FFG why don't you join another good server and seed it instead of wasting your time here...!?

(HOG,Merk)

we always have good team-work and good admins on HOG,Merk... (ofc we also suffer from time to time with no admin on server,but still....)

its all up to you..