Issues playing pr on 55"

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Tackleberry86
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Issues playing pr on 55"

Post by Tackleberry86 »

Heya i tryed to play pr on My TV, having some screen issues with it.
The game Window is too big for the screen, the edges are missing, means i dont See the stamina bar, compass, Ticket bar and so on.

I tryed to downscale the screen via the AMD Program but getting a CTD as soon as i Start pr.

You guys think its because the TV is curved?

Some ideas?

- Tack
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Nitneuc
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Re: Issues playing pr on 55"

Post by Nitneuc »

Not sure about it, but when I want to watch a movie on the TV with my computer through HDMI, I have to select an option in the TV settings. I'm not sure how it translates in English but what you're looking for is 1x1 pixel mapping, which, as it sounds, maps each pixel in the source to each pixel on your TV.
Option might be found in the image settings and called "display zone" -> "dot by dot". on mine the menu's in French, it's "tous les pixels" (all the pixels).
Many thanks to everyone involved in the making of the best videogaming experience ever !
PLODDITHANLEY
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Re: Issues playing pr on 55"

Post by PLODDITHANLEY »

I had to resize my desktop on a Shiity Asus 1920X1080 screen via the NVidia re sizing thingy, if you don't also set PRs resolution to match = CTD see below.

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System Information
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  Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (10.0.10586)
      Architecture: 64-bit
   Current Culture: English (United Kingdom)
       Motherboard: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8Z68-V
         Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz (Physical: 4, Logical: 4)
            Memory: 8.00 GB
      DIMM Modules: ChannelA-DIMM0: 4.00 GB @ 1867 MHz
                    ChannelB-DIMM0: 4.00 GB @ 1867 MHz
         Page File: 1.25 GB
    .NET Framework: 4.6+ Release Build: 394254, Runtime: 4.0.30319.42000

Display Information
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 Display Device(s): Generic PnP Monitor on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
   Display Mode(s): [color=Red]1824 x 1026 (32 bit) @ 60 Hz System resolution after resizing[/color] 
    Driver Version: 10.18.13.5382 (353.82)
    Display Memory: 4.00 GB
     Multisampling: 2, 4, 8
               DPI: 96 (100%)

Audio Information
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  Primary Playback: Headphone (Front) (Realtek High
 Primary Recording: Microphone (Realtek High Defini
  Open AL Renderer: Software
               EAX: True
           EAX 1.0: False
           EAX 2.0: True
           EAX 3.0: False
           EAX 4.0: False
           EAX 5.0: False
             X-RAM: False

Disk Information
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      Install Path: C:\Games\PR
                    Free: 106.59 GB, Total: 231.66 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: True
          Mod Path: C:\Games\PR\mods\pr
                    Free: 106.59 GB, Total: 231.66 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: True
     Profiles Path: C:\Users\Patrick\Documents\ProjectReality\Profiles
                    Free: 106.59 GB, Total: 231.66 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: True
    Update DL Path: C:\Users\Patrick\AppData\Local\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\Downloads
                    Free: 106.59 GB, Total: 231.66 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: True
   Update Log Path: C:\Users\Patrick\AppData\Local\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\UpdateLogs
                    Free: 106.59 GB, Total: 231.66 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: True

Game Information
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    Installed Mods: pr
       Current Mod: pr
           Version: Standalone - 1.0
        PR Version: 1.3.9.0
          Language: english
   Debug Available: False
     Large Address: True
Supported Hardware: None

Profile Information
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      Profile 0001: Ploddit
              Type: Online
 Last Used Profile: True
        View Intro: False
        Fullscreen: True
      Display Mode: [color=red]1824x1026@60Hz  Set game resolution to match system res. PR wont run below 60Hz..
[/color]Display Mode Valid: True
   Graphics Scheme: High
     Multisampling: 2x
             VSync: False
   Terrain Quality: High
   Effects Quality: High
  Geometry Quality: High
   Texture Quality: High
  Lighting Quality: High
   Dynamic Shadows: High
    Dynamic Lights: High
 Texture Filtering: High
    Audio Provider: Software
    Provider Valid: True
     Audio Quality: High
               EAX: True

      Profile 0002: Dynamite_Rabbit
              Type: Online
        View Intro: False
        Fullscreen: True
      Display Mode: [color=red]1824x1026@60Hz
[/color]Display Mode Valid: True
   Graphics Scheme: High
     Multisampling: Off
             VSync: False
   Terrain Quality: High
   Effects Quality: High
  Geometry Quality: High
   Texture Quality: High
  Lighting Quality: High
   Dynamic Shadows: High
    Dynamic Lights: High
 Texture Filtering: High
    Audio Provider: Software
    Provider Valid: True
     Audio Quality: High
               EAX: True

      Profile 0003: Ploddit
              Type: Offline
        View Intro: False
        Fullscreen: True
      Display Mode: [color=Red]1824x1026@60Hz[/color]
Display Mode Valid: True
   Graphics Scheme: High
     Multisampling: Off
             VSync: False
   Terrain Quality: High
   Effects Quality: High
  Geometry Quality: High
   Texture Quality: High
  Lighting Quality: High
   Dynamic Shadows: High
    Dynamic Lights: High
 Texture Filtering: High
    Audio Provider: Software
    Provider Valid: True
     Audio Quality: High
               EAX: True
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Tackleberry86
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Re: Issues playing pr on 55"

Post by Tackleberry86 »

I will try out your solutions as soon as i get home, cheers :)
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Re: Issues playing pr on 55"

Post by rPoXoTauJIo »

Can you make a photo how pr looks on such screen? plz, i'm 15'6 laptop peasant :)
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MAVEN
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Re: Issues playing pr on 55"

Post by MAVEN »

I'm having these issues too.

I recently bought a new gaming system but didn't buy a monitor for it. Using an old designer's monitor from my workstation which is pretty awesome as I can stare at it for 6-7 hours and not feel a thing and viewing angles are crazy but the resolution natives and refresh rates are higher than standard monitor ones thus I had to force my PR to 4:3 1280p resolution via ATI Tray Tools.

While this helps it does limit my refresh rate. My monitor supports 200hz but the game only sees 60, 75, 85 and 100. Is there a way to force higher refresh rate?

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Geronimo
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Re: Issues playing pr on 55"

Post by Geronimo »

@Tackleberry86

Sounds like you have Overscan enabled. Look for this option in your amd driver and also in the TV menu.

A quick google search also showed that there might be a bug in the current AMD drivers with scaling.

This link might also be helpful.


@MAVEN

If you run PR in windowed mode you should be fine. Set the ingame refresh rate to 60/75/85/100 (doesn't matter) and disable VSync in the ingame options.

To get rid of the "window" you can use Windowed Borderless Gaming.
MAVEN
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Re: Issues playing pr on 55"

Post by MAVEN »

Geronimo wrote:@Tackleberry86

Sounds like you have Overscan enabled. Look for this option in your amd driver and also in the TV menu.

A quick google search also showed that there might be a bug in the current AMD drivers with scaling.

This link might also be helpful.


@MAVEN

If you run PR in windowed mode you should be fine. Set the ingame refresh rate to 60/75/85/100 (doesn't matter) and disable VSync in the ingame options.

To get rid of the "window" you can use Windowed Borderless Gaming.
What a cool little app, thanks!
MAVEN
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Re: Issues playing pr on 55"

Post by MAVEN »

I found a way to avoid CTD with forced resolutions, instructions are bellow, PLEASE READ CAREFULLY.

It seems that PR is using old BF2 way of detecting hardware (limited) thus it can see only certain specs and use for example one core (amd) or 2 cores (intel) and clamp ram use as well as resolution use.

There is a way to force this but it involves some very risky modification. So before we proceed...

WARNING: DO NOT TRY THIS IF YOU ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH COMPUTER HARDWARE AND YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW YOUR HARDWARE OPERATES IN GAMES AND APPLICATIONS. USING MODIFICATION FROM BELLOW CAN CAUSE SERIOUS PROBLEMS. IF YOU DO USE THE MODIFICATION YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU ARE USING IT ON YOUR OWN RISK.

You can "unlock" new resolutions for any device your system is connected to with a display by disabling EDID/E-EDID or HDCP.

What is EDID/E-EDID, HDCP? In laymans terms it's factory settings limiter installed by manufacturer to prevent users from using unsafe settings. It's basically speed limit choke for bikes, except for monitors. This standard is most common in VGA and DVI monitors but is also used in HDMI.

IMPORTANT FACTORS:

Changing resolution isn't that simple, there are key elements that can determine durability of your monitor and can it actually perform the tasks.

1. Monitor plug (VGA, DVI, HDMI) they're all different and behave differently.
2. Monitor panel form (LCD, TFT, LED, AMOLED, whatever else is out there) they all behave differently with pixels and refresh rates.
3. Your processing and gpu power, if you can't run PR with standard resolutions DON'T EVEN TRY WITH EXPERIMENTAL ONE, YOU CAN MESS THINGS UP.
4. Everything has limits even if pushed outside of boundaries, just because your monitor/hardware can perform higher doesn't mean it will do it properly.

SAFETY FIRST:

1. Make sure you're familiar with modding of settings else just use standard stuff.
2. Test on hardware that you own for more than 6 to 12 months and are comfortable with (ie you can fix if you break)
3. DO NOT under any circumstances use highest settings past the EDID/HDCP barrier, EVER.

How to disable and tweak EDID/HDCP:

ATI

1. Open Radeon Settings and go advanced settings, or CCC.
2. Click on My [Identifier here, it can be what your monitor is, ie VGA, DVI, HDMI etc] Settings.
3. Find where your resolution settings are and untick EDID/HDCP box to disable use of it, click apply, if nothing goes awry click ok.
4. Get back to the window you found EDID/HDCP in and find resolution selector.
5. Select new resolution limit. This is your new MAXIMUM resoltion, again DO NOT USE HIGHEST SETTING select some reasonable barrier, say 1.5 or 2x scale of what your standard resolution is.
6. Select refresh rate, just like with resolution DO NOT USE HIGHEST SETTING. Safest refresh rates for both your eyes and monitor range from 60 to 140hz, again different monitors have different settings. 60hz is not recommended, specially for older monitors.
7. Click apply, if everything is normal, click OK.
8. Exit the CCC settings.
9. Use resolution options instructions from bellow.

nVidia:

1. Sorry, I don't own nVidia never did actually so have no idea how to do this, but I am sure nVidia got some sort of settings for this.

Resolution Options in PR

WARNING: This is for PR ONLY, DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES USE NON-STANDARD RESOLUTIONS AS YOUR DESKTOP NATIVE, IF YOU DO AND YOUR MONITOR DOESN'T SUPPORT IT YOU CAN GET LOCKED OUT AND WILL NEED TO USE ADMIN TOOLS TO RESTORE IT (!!!)

1. Launch PR launcher ( (Punny) D-D-D-D-D-Double punny ).. puns within puns... #punception xD
2. Go to Options.
3. Select your "new" resolution (DON'T GO TOO HIGH)
4. Click Apply.
5. Click Play.
6. If your "new" resolution works and game doesn't crash you're good to go.
7. If you see a black screen or your monitor is not responding, try to ALT-TAB and close the game from Task Manager, if you can't do that, do a soft reset (system restart button)

So there you have it, PR with higher resolution :)

This way I managed to force 2K for the game (2048?1080 and 1998?1080 for me) and also tried 4K (4096?2160 , 4096?1716 and 3996?2160 for me) but there are problems I faced - With some of them input of keys doesn't work, refresh rate is lower than what I wanted and the resolutions ate so much of ram memory, PR would crash randomly within 5-15 minutes use or sometimes not even start, and game FOV would be waaaaay messed up making UI items super tiny or out of boundaries and the player hands would be 1/4 of the display instead covering normal near edge-to-edge the way it was meant to be. Those weren't safe for me so I found a sweet spot a bit lower than 2K native and I'm using that now in PR, works brilliant :D

I don't know about your specs but when I tested those resolutions I found out that:

1. Processing power barely jumps past 12%.
2. GPU heats up and eats ram more.
3. RAM memory is used more.

I hope this helped you and that you didn't break anything. To restore settings just switch EDID/E-EDID, HDCP controls back on and use old resolution in PR.
Tackleberry86
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Re: Issues playing pr on 55"

Post by Tackleberry86 »

Товарищ!

Im gonna try it step by step at the weekend, Sounds like you can pretty much screw up everything If you are doing it the wrong way haha.
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