[F|H] Project Reality server

[Mineral]

It's log of their own servers. They can post that just fine , I asked him too.

You guys have a lot to learn admin wise, take note fast of this thread.

[Tit4Tat]

Max_;2147829']Please don't do that on other servers. Just don't.
I don't like to post that there, but this isn't the first time that one of your member does that.
Hopefully it will stop in the future.



Thank you.

Lesson 1 o 1 of being an administrator of a server, you never do this. We banned people from other servers for doing this, this isn't business it's a game, it looks shallow and desperate when this is done, and will put you in bad light of the community.

[Nate.]

Quick clarification on logs:

- Sharing chatlogs and adminrecords of rounds is completely fine in this forum section
- Sharing CD hashes and IP's of players is not.

[MiticFenix]

Lesson 1 o 1 of being an administrator of a server, you never do this. We banned people from other servers for doing this, this isn't business it's a game, it looks shallow and desperate when this is done, and will put you in bad light of the community.

We agree Tit, i don't know why he did it, it's a game and if you are on anothe server you have to be respectful with the guys who manage it, without sharing or inviting people on your own server, so we'll talk to him

[cawac]

We had some pretty good rounds today, it was a welcomed change to play a maprotation outside of the "standard" maps (fallujah, muttrah, al basrah, kashan...).

Keep it up!

[Gorenor]

beautiful game tonight unfortunetely my squad mate still blowing in the mic, and wasn't possible to hear well tha squad leader order

[IronMAN771]

one of the best server on PR very fast and quick responding admins GG guys :>rana,mrjoe ,s.nooob
every time I have a good game in your server

Keep it up

[gwa1hir]

im in the fucking apc squad on US side playing muttrah. we both, me and my driver, get a ctd and our apc is in the middle of the city....we rejoin and are MEC ofc i asked 4 times for a switch even explaining that we were driving the apc on US...3 times no answer. after the 4th time the only answer is "NO SWITCHES".....what the fuck is wrong with you guys

edit: ok after the 5th time explaining it you finally did it, thanks

edit2: now we get warned 10 times for having infantry in our apc squad when there was no apc up. jesus what kind of admins are you recruiting?!?!?! you accept the ones that put in "want to feel strong and mighty at least one time in my life"?

EDIT3: ok it was flashie and now on dovre he is threatening us, kicking our squadleader for and accidental tk. then he started banning people cause we complained. how can you recruit this guy?!?!

edit4: when i asked him "are you threatening us now with admin abuse" he replied by kicking me

[fecht_niko]

Just got kicked for acidentially driving over a guy right away. maybe because it was the admin FH flashie.
My squad reports the admin and he starts !tb most of the squad members.
If you want to increase the quality on your server you should not give everyone admin rights!

[DusanYugoslavia]

I just played with Gwa1hir and we were waiting for a switch for like 10 minutes because we crashed.

Next round we started to play inf and our squad leader ran over an admin in main with a logi at round start. He said sorry and got temp banned. Me and a few other friends used !r function to report Flashie for admin abuse, then I got temp banned as well. (He was the only admin online.)

This server never switches people, kicks accident TKs and does not kick people for purpose TKs. Some of the admins dont know basic English. And when you freak out at purpose team-killers you get warned for language.

And the server play only around 10 maps. Admin response time is non existent.

[Frontliner]

I've been hesitant to post my criticism regarding the server because I thought it'd be only fair to give you guys some time to bring your admins up to standard. Apparently reaching an appropriate standard is not pursued by the server administration.

Maybe some positives first. The server is very stable, at the top of my head I cannot recall a single crash during the last few weeks(could be wrong though). Even on maps that are known to lag quite a bit in the beginning(Wanda, Shijia) it feels more bearable than on other servers. If only everything else was this way.



On to the negatives. Sometimes a severe lack in variety happens. After playing Bijar and then Khamisiyah, two maps that are very asset heavy and offer little for those players who are stuck playing as infantry, it would be only fair to play a 2 km forest or city map next.

Next up is Team balancing, I know that it is very tricky, but if a team leads with like 70:14 and it will go stronger from there(Tank/CAS spawns, eg.), you should at least make an effort to intervene at the start of the next map if you don't want to intervene during a round. Nobody can foresee what's about to happen, but to stand by idle will not fix that problem either.

Now the administration: I cannot speak from personal experience regarding the incidents that happened with Rana, but, in my opinion, allowing someone to continue serving as an admin after he abused his admin powers to gain control over the CAS Squad(page 11) is a questionable move, and he should've been kept on an even tighter leash after that. You didn't so that, "ok, let's treat it as simple misstep that will not happen in the future", right? Except that it did happen again

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, page 18 and yet again

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, page 20. I know that it's hard to find active admins, but continuing to allow him adminning without him having to fear any repercussions of losing his admin status is unheard of. In fact, when I kicked you, MrJoe, from my asset squad a few days ago, I was actually wondering whether you'd kick me from the server as well. That's where it has come to. Since Rana can apparently do it without the FH administration taking it as the repeated serious misconduct it was.

Another concern is the time it takes your admin team to respond to issues at times. For example two days ago I was notified by Liam that a known ghoster was active on your server and immediately started reporting his name and offense to the 4(!) active(!) admins that were present. It took them around 10 minutes to respond to me, despite multiple attempts and approaches(reaching out to them via "!r"-command as well as through the SL chat via Niko as well as teamchat). I can understand that admins want to play too, but it takes no more than a few seconds to write "!b offendername reason" and it only requires one of them to shortly pay attention; hadn't I been so presistent he would likely still be ghosting on your server.

Last but not least the instance with Flashie yesterday. To my knowledge there is no rule in this thread, nor on your forums which a) prohibits Asset SLs from taking a certain kit(in this case(IIRC) Niko had a HAT kit, which is a reasonable kit to take as APC SL) and b) forces APC players to stay inactive if their APCs are down. If these rules indeed exist, or you want to introduce these rules, you NEED to inform us that they do, how else are we supposed to know about them?
Kicking Niko for an accidental TK and kicking me for reminding him that he has to follow admin conduct like we have to follow player conduct also adds to this.

I hope you finally start improving.

[mrjoe(ita)]

Frontliner,

Thank you fro your feedback, sadly I am very busy in this period, and I wont be able to make a exhaustive answer.

I will try to answer quickly, and the discussion can be further expanded on ts.

Regarding the known ghoster, I apologize if it took time but I was not in the condition to alt-tab and check the topic regarding the ghoster, as soon as I was able to, I took the appropiate action. Considering the matter I believe it was best it was handed by me (with some delay) rather than a "freshman" admin

Flashie is new, I did not had time to have a proper chat with him, but is evident that he cannot act that way on the server. I apologize for that

Team balancing issues as you said is tricky, if i see is too umbalanced, I sometimes try to switch myself in game and try to make the loosing team more effective.

[Cossack]

Joe, just ask clan (and if any tournament) squads that are present switch to balance. NEW, MerK and other did or are doing that.

[exel82]

So... Here I'm again complaining about admin quality. Today at approx 17:00 PRT we played beirut alt (unbalanced map and layout) but i was surprised when somebody actually balanced the layout by removing the CAS chopper out of the equation. Oh I forgot to tell one thing. This "balancer" wasn't a admin because he was a griefer that flied the CAS chopper without any warnings for 2-5 minutes without receiving any warnings and then he did the "balancing". Well after that being discussed in the chat without no admin intervention except the griefer getting banned AFTER he had wasted the chopper we noticed that our tank was being stolen. No surprise, they went about their business for a couple of minutes before they were banned. The worrying part about the tank being stolen was that it was also being discussed in chat for a couple of minutes before the admins (there 3-4 online at the moment) intervened. Gladly the stealers didn't get further than 100 meters from the base in those 4 minutes. I don't have anything more to say about your server except that it's a server i will not join anymore IF you don't get better admins.

[mrjoe(ita)]

So... Here I'm again complaining about admin quality. Today at approx 17:00 PRT we played beirut alt (unbalanced map and layout) but i was surprised when somebody actually balanced the layout by removing the CAS chopper out of the equation. Oh I forgot to tell one thing. This "balancer" wasn't a admin because he was a griefer that flied the CAS chopper without any warnings for 2-5 minutes without receiving any warnings and then he did the "balancing". Well after that being discussed in the chat without no admin intervention except the griefer getting banned AFTER he had wasted the chopper we noticed that our tank was being stolen. No surprise, they went about their business for a couple of minutes before they were banned. The worrying part about the tank being stolen was that it was also being discussed in chat for a couple of minutes before the admins (there 3-4 online at the moment) intervened. Gladly the stealers didn't get further than 100 meters from the base in those 4 minutes. I don't have anything more to say about your server except that it's a server i will not join anymore IF you don't get better admins.

Can you please remember which admins were online at that time?

ty

[exel82]

Atleast lucky and joe_ I think. Can't remember the two others.

[mrjoe(ita)]

Atleast lucky and joe_ I think. Can't remember the two others.

i believe it was just lucky and me, however i was afk, since I was doing something else. Lucky might have been away as well.

Sorry that that happened, but at that moment we did not had enough admins

[Mineral]

Off topic discussion removed. Continue pls.

[Reborn]

is the ban permanent?

[Mouthpiece]

It is, yes.