Viable Infantry Tactic?
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MRaza
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Viable Infantry Tactic?
So I've been thinking about tactics that infantry squads could use and I was wondering if you guys think this is a sensible tactic to use. So basically this tactic is centered around the idea of flanking. I'll refer to the image attached for reference.
In the image, you can see that for the Chinese forces, the two active flags are Control Facility (which they must capture) and Vehicle Service (which they must defend). This tactic would send one infantry squad to attack and preferably neutralize a Russian flag that is not active (in this case, either Supply Bunker or RU Forward Outpost).
I think that when this tactic is used, it will draw the enemy infantry away from their active flag and toward the flag which is being neutralized behind their lines. In this case, I think that if a Chinese squad neutralized Supply Bunker and kept it neutralized, some Russian forces would pull back from Control Facility and head back to Supply Bunker to help re-cap it. This would allow other Chinese infantry squads to push into Control Facility with more ease.
Even if Russian forces don't pull back from Control Facility to Supply Bunker, there will undoubtedly be at least some INF trying to re-cap Bunker. This will keep more INF away from Control Facility. I think that the longer the Chinese squad keeps Bunker neutralized, the more Russians will divert to there to try to re-cap it.
Once Chinese forces take control of Control Facility, Supply Bunker will be the new active flag for the Russians. The flanking squad can then relocate to RU Forward Outpost, neutralize it and keep the Russian INF's attention on them, allowing the Chinese to cap Supply Bunker more easily.
I hope you guys were able to follow along, it's a lot to read. Do you think this tactic is worth considering?
In the image, you can see that for the Chinese forces, the two active flags are Control Facility (which they must capture) and Vehicle Service (which they must defend). This tactic would send one infantry squad to attack and preferably neutralize a Russian flag that is not active (in this case, either Supply Bunker or RU Forward Outpost).
I think that when this tactic is used, it will draw the enemy infantry away from their active flag and toward the flag which is being neutralized behind their lines. In this case, I think that if a Chinese squad neutralized Supply Bunker and kept it neutralized, some Russian forces would pull back from Control Facility and head back to Supply Bunker to help re-cap it. This would allow other Chinese infantry squads to push into Control Facility with more ease.
Even if Russian forces don't pull back from Control Facility to Supply Bunker, there will undoubtedly be at least some INF trying to re-cap Bunker. This will keep more INF away from Control Facility. I think that the longer the Chinese squad keeps Bunker neutralized, the more Russians will divert to there to try to re-cap it.
Once Chinese forces take control of Control Facility, Supply Bunker will be the new active flag for the Russians. The flanking squad can then relocate to RU Forward Outpost, neutralize it and keep the Russian INF's attention on them, allowing the Chinese to cap Supply Bunker more easily.
I hope you guys were able to follow along, it's a lot to read. Do you think this tactic is worth considering?
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gwa1hir
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X-Alt
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Re: Viable Infantry Tactic?
Crack Gold V1, the spacing of the two facilities are closer now anyways.
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Heskey
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Re: Viable Infantry Tactic?
So basically, you want to feign capture of a flag beyond the AAS order to draw troops away form their defensive objective, making it easier to capture?
It'd be a good plan, except for if I'm not mistaken, you can't budge the ownership of flags that aren't active - so troops at Supply Bunker will just be stood around a perpetually Russian-owned flag, until Control Facility is captured.
If Russia recaptures Control Facility whilst China begins capturing Supply Bunker, China could get Supply Bunker neutral - but no more, if Russia destabilizes China's ownership of Control Facility.
It'd be a good plan, except for if I'm not mistaken, you can't budge the ownership of flags that aren't active - so troops at Supply Bunker will just be stood around a perpetually Russian-owned flag, until Control Facility is captured.
If Russia recaptures Control Facility whilst China begins capturing Supply Bunker, China could get Supply Bunker neutral - but no more, if Russia destabilizes China's ownership of Control Facility.
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saXoni
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Re: Viable Infantry Tactic?
You can't cap flags out of order, so your tactic isn't gonna work.
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MRaza
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Re: Viable Infantry Tactic?
I thought you could neutralize them but not cap them. Right?saXoni wrote:You can't cap flags out of order, so your tactic isn't gonna work.
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QuickLoad
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Re: Viable Infantry Tactic?
This COULD work, regardless of neutralizing the flag or not.
But it requires pretty high platoon cohesion to pull off.
Here's my opinion based off of my tactics used:
Option A for your plan:
Russians were pushed back, only now retook supply bunker and and now capping Control Facility with little resistance.
PLA forces sneak a squad into supply bunker, or fireteam, and have not too much resistance going on(hope that there isn't a mortar team there for example, but im not going to get into that because if you're going for sabotage then that's what you'll hope for, and if you're going for stealth you'll hope you don't, blah blah etc), and decap the flag 98% just as the RU finally capture control facility.
It neutralizes because the defenders/blueberries there weren't paying attention, and then boom russians have to divert a squad, now if the PLA forces there are very combat efficient they can even prevent the re-capture.
Important thing to note about option A: russians CANNOT push on vehicle service now, which means the PLA can commit EVERY AVALIABLE FORCE towards Control facility.
Option B: (not neutralizing the flag option) Send a squad to Supply Bunker even while the Russians have forces at Control Facility. Their objective is to snag logistics, helicopters, FOBs, generally cause havoc and force the russians to divert a squad or two to Supply Bunker. This will help alleviate pressure, not much more, however it'll still be worth it as PLA is probably going to be pushing regardless.
But it requires pretty high platoon cohesion to pull off.
Here's my opinion based off of my tactics used:
Option A for your plan:
Russians were pushed back, only now retook supply bunker and and now capping Control Facility with little resistance.
PLA forces sneak a squad into supply bunker, or fireteam, and have not too much resistance going on(hope that there isn't a mortar team there for example, but im not going to get into that because if you're going for sabotage then that's what you'll hope for, and if you're going for stealth you'll hope you don't, blah blah etc), and decap the flag 98% just as the RU finally capture control facility.
It neutralizes because the defenders/blueberries there weren't paying attention, and then boom russians have to divert a squad, now if the PLA forces there are very combat efficient they can even prevent the re-capture.
Important thing to note about option A: russians CANNOT push on vehicle service now, which means the PLA can commit EVERY AVALIABLE FORCE towards Control facility.
Option B: (not neutralizing the flag option) Send a squad to Supply Bunker even while the Russians have forces at Control Facility. Their objective is to snag logistics, helicopters, FOBs, generally cause havoc and force the russians to divert a squad or two to Supply Bunker. This will help alleviate pressure, not much more, however it'll still be worth it as PLA is probably going to be pushing regardless.
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saXoni
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Re: Viable Infantry Tactic?
You can neutralize a flag that was in play when you started capping, but no longer is due to the enemy capturing/neutralizing your defensive flag.MRaza wrote:I thought you could neutralize them but not cap them. Right?
Say you push Control Facility and start capping it, while the enemy team pushes Vehicle Service and starts capping that. Whoever neutralizes the flag first will be able to fully capture the flag, but if you haven't neutralized the flag before your enemy you will only be able to neutralize it.
I think they altered something with v1.4 to make it more difficult for a squad to hold a flag that they have neutralized but is no longer in play, can't remember the exact details.
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MRaza
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Re: Viable Infantry Tactic?
This is EXACTLY how I thought about it and how it plays out in my head. Neutralizing a flag that's not in play and having the enemy divert attention away from the frontlineQuickLoad wrote: It neutralizes because the defenders/blueberries there weren't paying attention, and then boom russians have to divert a squad, now if the PLA forces there are very combat efficient they can even prevent the re-capture.
Important thing to note about option A: russians CANNOT push on vehicle service now, which means the PLA can commit EVERY AVALIABLE FORCE towards Control facility.
Regardless of whether you cap the flag or just neutralize it, the enemy team will still have to dedicate resources to regain control of the flag.saXoni wrote:You can neutralize a flag that was in play when you started capping, but no longer is due to the enemy capturing/neutralizing your defensive flag.
Say you push Control Facility and start capping it, while the enemy team pushes Vehicle Service and starts capping that. Whoever neutralizes the flag first will be able to fully capture the flag, but if you haven't neutralized the flag before your enemy you will only be able to neutralize it.
I think they altered something with v1.4 to make it more difficult for a squad to hold a flag that they have neutralized but is no longer in play, can't remember the exact details.
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Heavy Death
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Re: Viable Infantry Tactic?
Flags that are capped and not in play cannot be neutralised.
Maybe people just don't get AAS that's why they are all over the place...
Maybe people just don't get AAS that's why they are all over the place...
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saXoni
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Re: Viable Infantry Tactic?
I never claimed otherwise. Do I misunderstand saying you thought you could neutralize any flag on the map?MRaza wrote:Regardless of whether you cap the flag or just neutralize it, the enemy team will still have to dedicate resources to regain control of the flag.
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inb4banned
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Re: Viable Infantry Tactic?
What happens in actual game is: you take a flag noone cares about, no one is there, you wait for enemies to try and retake it but they ofc don't, a tank comes along and wipes your squad slowly while your team is flaming you for not being on a relevant flag.
The only thing that works in such scenarios is getting 2 crates to that flag, building a FOB with AA and TOW, leaving 3 people behind to man + rearm them while rest of the squad attacks a relevant flag.
The only thing that works in such scenarios is getting 2 crates to that flag, building a FOB with AA and TOW, leaving 3 people behind to man + rearm them while rest of the squad attacks a relevant flag.
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MRaza
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Re: Viable Infantry Tactic?
The whole "neutralize a flag not in play" thing is what this whole strategy is using as a basis. Guess this strategy no longer works if you cant neutralize flags not in playHeavy Death wrote:Flags that are capped and not in play cannot be neutralised.
Maybe people just don't get AAS that's why they are all over the place...
Yes, I did mean that you can neutralize ANY flag on the map. Heavy Death cleared that up for me though. Sorry if I came off as rude, didn't mean to.saXoni wrote:I never claimed otherwise. Do I misunderstand saying you thought you could neutralize any flag on the map?
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saXoni
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Re: Viable Infantry Tactic?
Didn't come off as rude at all.MRaza wrote:Yes, I did mean that you can neutralize ANY flag on the map. Heavy Death cleared that up for me though. Sorry if I came off as rude, didn't mean to.

