PRTA

[=MeRk= BluFFeR]

If the rabbit doesn't fit, don't force it. Once again you're completely oblivious to the point. It's not admin abuse, it's you actually violating the rules and yet again you try to "dignify" this violation by completely ignoring it while blaming it on us with childish comments about the size of our penises and balls. (come on..)
What Ark "thinks" in this matter is not what matters, what matters is what our server rules are stating, which is what he tried telling you.
Seeing your responses here, I find it hard to believe we were unjust against you - Once you leave this sphere of obliviousness and actually read our rules, you have every right to respectfully say your opinion about them on the PRTA forums. Until then (I'm assuming you're some sort of head of Merk), you're representing a server and a Clan. At the moment you're not painting the best picture of either one.

This is not a feedback thread, it's a rant - Hence we don't take it serious. If you want people from PRTA to take this thread seriously, stop throwing childish insults. Do your research properly, which you would've learned if had you attended an University.
You see, as the overused, yet still valid quote by Mark Twain says: "Never argue with stupid people, they'll drag you down to their own level and beat you with experience." That alone is one reason you're not receiving any proper responses from the higher PRTA Management in this thread.

Hmmm, let me put this in easy terms, as you have no idea what the hell you are talking about,

One of the responsibility's of being "Management" comes with the responsibility of Man Management. Now man management means talking to people in a respectful way,treating people with the respect you wish to be treated yourself.
Doing this ensures you get the desired outcome and everyone gets along.

From a PRTA point of view,whether or not someone, be it me,or anyone else on your server dose not read the rules,understand the rules not with any intent to break such rules.
It is YOUR responsibility to treat people with respect to correct the issue.

Now what happened in my case was warning after warning,abuse and sarcasm over squad leader chat, bearing in mind we had the assets from the start, now after 10 mins of using the asset your admin makes his own squad then proceeds to do this as mentioned above to get said asset.
This is abuse its as simple as that.

On the other hand if the admin spoke over mumble in a decent and civilised way,or warned me etc "!w bluff change your squad name please to armour"
I would have obeyed the admin no worries at all,but PRTA being PRTA decided to go down the PRTA common route of being arseholes to people.

I probably could make this easier for you to understand,but I am kinda hoping I do not have to.
But please if you find you have trouble with any words or sentences let me know, me being a responsible person/admin/good guy I am more than happy to help you as I see you are struggling.


P.S Mark Twain was a twat,he will not help you..

[LiamBai]

Liam, it maybe extreamly annoying to you how our 50 v 50 works, let me explain. In a far gone time, people could switch back and thought at will, cussing team unbalances, I had one occasion when I switched two clan mates to one team (losing to winning) and because the losing side saw this, many people left, in the end the server balanced at 39 v 50, do you think that's healthy?

Numbers don't make balance, players do. The example you mention of making the teams 52-48 probably has very little to do with the ragequit, rather the problem is that one team is sucking, which you seem to notice they were doing before you switched two players.
Did those two players instantly spawn in and start pushing the team back even faster? I have a funny feeling that they made very little difference.

Despite this measure that you claim aids balance, I played some rounds a few days ago where my team demolished the other on a map I can't remember. The admins at the time decided it was best for balance to set Silent Eagle Lrg next and do absolutely nothing about the teambalance. The round was over in 15 minutes, but it took about 40 for the round to end 706-0. But hey, mistakes happen right? Nope, next map was Burning Sand Lrg. Did balance happen? Of course not.
How did the round end? Outcap.

The problem PRTA has with balance is not going to be solved by pissing off clans and not switching random people.

This is not a feedback thread, it's a rant - Hence we don't take it serious.

Have you read my post? This is the biggest problem PRTA has.
Feedback that disagrees with PRTA is ignored completely no matter who it comes from. Doesn't matter what it is or who posts it, it's immediately reclassified as "a rant", or from somebody who "broke the rules intentionally", etc.

While there are some people in this thread ranting, they are ranting for a reason. Most of them have been shafted by extremely poor adminning one or more times on your server with nothing coming of it. There will always be h8rs, but judge feedback for what it says rather than who's saying it, and consider it objectively before simply disregarding it because it disagrees with what you "know" PRTA to be, in your long experience in the PR community.
You'd have learned this in University, I believe. The whole trying to be objective thing.

Do your research properly, which you would've learned if had you attended an University.

I find this rich coming from an admin who thinks that typing a squad name into the custom squad is making an early squad even if you don't press enter.

[Sandepp]

Can we all stop telling them how to do their hobby. They have enough people in their "clans" to fill two full servers.Its plain obvious at this point that they simply don't want clans or players who can't bend over in front of their admins. Most of the players who stood up against their admin abuse are already banned from PRTA.
Just leave them alone and play on other EU servers. We have 3 of them if I am not mistaken.

[HeadlessChicken86]

LiamBai;2158583']And you can choose to allow intentional teamkilling and hackers cough if you like, doesn't make it a good idea.


Time for some feedback:

I find it a bit sad that PRTA is still openly sticking to this "no switch at 50v50, not your right" line. It's extremely annoying for clans or groups of players trying to join at any point in a round, even at the start. Seems even sillier when you consider that PRTA is founded on the idea of friends playing PR together.
Also probably worth saying that when I brought this up on their forums I was placed on a list that simulates a buggy, laggy forum meant to discourage users from using the forum.

When I asked about this, I was told it was an accident. This is obviously a lie; to apply this option, you have to navigate to the user's profile, select to discourage the user, which is a checkbox distinct from everything else, check it, and then save the user's profile. [Example]
Both using this on somebody providing feedback about their experience on PRTA and then lying about it are pretty disgusting ways to behave, in my opinion.
Who did this and why? I will probably never know, but it was reversed which leads me to believe that it was not sanctioned by PRTA as a whole. Sadly there's no indication of anything coming of this, other than it being reversed because I happened to know what it was and bring it up. Am I the first person this happened to? Who knows...


PRTA is a server that I play on only when my friends are there or it's the only <200ping choice. The gameplay is mediocre, the rules are bizarre and selectively enforced, the admins range from moderately to extremely unresponsive and are almost never held accountable for anything that they do against their rules or against good admin practice, even with video evidence.

Instead of considering feedback on admin abuse, good policy, etc., PRTA chooses to attack those pointing out flaws or wrongdoings, thinking that everybody reporting such things has some kind of anti-PRTA agenda. I can only speak for myself of course, but I would be very happy if I could join PRTA and switch to or be switched to my friends in a quick and hassle free way. I would be happy playing on a server where I don't have to worry about getting removed because I kick an admin from my squad. I would be happy playing on a server where my entire squad won't randomly get resigned with no warning while working together and breaking no rules. This is why I give feedback, and I imagine the same is true for most people in the thread, but it falls on ears which are at best deaf and at worst malicious and subversive.



Hell, this post will probably even get me banned.

Wow really? Not very surprised but ye HAHA this is next level salt from prta.

Much love Liam tho i hope you burn in hell <3

Also much love for merk <3

[Fir3w411]

This is not a feedback thread, it's a rant - Hence we don't take it serious. If you want people from PRTA to take this thread seriously, stop throwing childish insults. Do your research properly, which you would've learned if had you attended an University.

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[Jevski]

classic ignorant jevski post....sometimes there is no other european server online. do you understand that? sometimes one server is the only option. are you able to comprehend this fact?

Your kinda missing the point. As always.

I could understand it, if this was a post apocalyptic world, where the only food available was Soylent Green and you were starving. Do you comprehend that we are talking about a computer game and you wont starve from pixel consumption if you dont play?

If you favorite server isnt available...DONT PLAY! Thats your other option! It really is that simple. Go read a book or learn meditation to find inner peace, so that you dont "need" to play pr. The world does not always revolve the way you want does not mean you should act all entitled, demanding other people act the way you want to

[DogACTUAL]

I'm sure that most people here made their opinion about Merk or Bluff years before you even joined the community...

Off topic, but what is it with you always jerking off about how you supposedly joined the community much sooner and played PR much longer than everyone else you are arguing with? You know that is not really a valid argument, right?

About the admins, until now i never really had a problem with them, however that doesn't mean that i discount all the complainers' experiences with the admins.

But i find it odd that PRTA is the target of so much admin abuse accusations when i myself experienced much worse and way more clearcut admin abuse on other servers than what is described here.

[HeadlessChicken86]

But i find it odd that PRTA is the target of so much admin abuse accusations when i myself experienced much worse and way more clearcut admin abuse on other servers than what is described here.

Okay thats interesting. Worse than what is described here?
Im reading you pls explain.

[sweedensniiperr]

If you favorite server isnt available...DONT PLAY! Thats your other option! It really is that simple. Go read a book or learn meditation to find inner peace, so that you dont "need" to play pr. The world does not always revolve the way you want does not mean you should act all entitled, demanding other people act the way you want to

What if I only have 2hrs free on my week and want to play pr? Should I just give up? When the other servers are russian Chinese or American? Please.

And you seem to be missing the point as well. People don't want to attack your precious server, they want a good server.

What I don't seem to understand is how other servers can handle teamswitching,!admins command and all other things but you don't? The reasoning is not logical.

[DogACTUAL]

I would, but i am sure if i tell you and call out the server it happened on i will get a permanent ban there.
I know this probably sounds like a cheap excuse and makes it look like i made it all up, but i would just like to keep a low profile so i can stay unbanned. No need to warm up this issue again, what's done is done.

Just trust me on this, people are dogpiling on PRTA right now because it is a trendy circlejerk atm, but the fact is that almost every server has problems with admin abuse, some servers more than others.

[fecht_niko]

I would, but i am sure if i tell you and call out the server it happened on i will get a permanent ban there.
I know this probably sounds like a cheap excuse and makes it look like i made it all up, but i would just like to keep a low profile so i can stay unbanned. No need to warm up this issue again, what's done is done.

Just trust me on this, people are dogpiling on PRTA right now because it is a trendy circlejerk atm, but the fact is that almost every server has problems with admin abuse, some servers more than others.

Pls go back and play ARMA instead of stupidposting if you have no clue.

[Jevski]

First, its not my server. But let me ask you this, why should other people change, so that it fits into your schedule? Why dont you change it so that you have more than 2 hours or find another time to play. Do you really expect other people to change to fit your needs? IRL life you can come with a suggestion to how a shop, restaurant, product or whatever is made/run but just because they dont agree with your suggestion does not mean they are wrong, they just doing it the way they like.

As to attack the server, the difference is that you want the server your way. They own and pay for the server why should they change to something they dont agree with? They could demand the same thing of you then? Get more hours of spare time to play...

Lets use your logical reasoning here. Other players can find the time to play on the servers they prefer, why cant you?

And if there are so many people here who thinks the server is run in the wrong way, make your own server. Run it the way you want to.

And to answer you question. Yes you should give up. You cant always get what you want. Sometimes life isnt going the the way you want it to.

[Jamaican]

Always seems to be the same guys complaining about prta, for how many months now? How could anyone take what they say seriously when it is plain obvious bias on their part. As others have said you dont like it dont play on it.

What i find funny is these guys telling people how to run a server when they cant even run their own. If your way is the best way then why are you empty?

Not really feedback i know, but neither is this thread. Just alot of kids spitting dummys because they dont get their own way.

[RaNa-Rocxs]

In my point of view we need to close this discussion here because no one is going to won here.
In last few weeks i am playing in PRTA server I think they are improving himself good.
For PRTA administration have one request you guys are good this server feedback forum only more improving you to Best.
Who anyone is requesting you or suggesting you here that all peoples like to play in your server. it's very difficult to take care everyone
I see many people requesting you please enable the !admins command !mapvote but unfortunately you guys ignoring it at all.
I think you guys is not ignoring this in future. Because to be honest PR is a big family and you are is a good part of family. You must need to take care what people need to you.

and any admin point of view sometime only one admin is online with 100 players he ignore you please forgive him because that same time is not only you are requesting for something.
I see so many people is asking for any server this Server is bad why?? because I am requesting many of time to admins ( !r hey admins please switch me I want to play with my friends sometime its impossible because in one team we have 40 players on one side and other team we have 50 players are playing or 50v50 is playing once again it's impossible to switch any player.

Sometime any admin talk with you hardly please ignore it too because it's not easy Job at all one admin is seeding to server like 5 or 6 hours everyday after seeding a server he doing all admin jobs then after 4 or 5 maps server is will be crashed and after this he is seeding again that server he was not playing for himself. And we are going to join any other server very easy.

And on the end be happy and be respectful for everyone and also sorry for my bad English


Thanks

[Vista]

Not really feedback i know, but neither is this thread. Just alot of kids spitting dummys because they dont get their own way.

>Litteraly a dozen people stating their specific reasoning of why they dislike the PRTA server, asking for change
>'Just alot of kids spitting dummys because they dont get their own way'

Whatever lol, most clans already avoid the PRTA server, if they don't want to listen then it's their loss, don't really care. There's (much) better servers out there - join those instead.

[HeadlessChicken86]

I would, but i am sure if i tell you and call out the server it happened on i will get a permanent ban there.
I know this probably sounds like a cheap excuse and makes it look like i made it all up, but i would just like to keep a low profile so i can stay unbanned. No need to warm up this issue again, what's done is done.

Just trust me on this, people are dogpiling on PRTA right now because it is a trendy circlejerk atm, but the fact is that almost every server has problems with admin abuse, some servers more than others.

I have pretty low standards mate, would simply like to know how one can even top the shit thats going here in general.
Dont worry about it...

@Jamaican Im really really not into defending Liam so much but can you please read his feedback again? Its not hateful at all.

@Jevski IRL i do not accept wrong behaviour either (except my very own ofc). If everyone would always just let go our society was a sad place. I understand your point though, its just not really helping right now.

Edit: Please dont ban me now PRTA i promise i will not join your server regardless. I just wanna keep my white vest. Im such a lovely person anyway why would someone ever argue with me <3

[__Super_6__5__]

it is that biased theory, since their own servers sit empty, they MUST **** talk others in a crude attempt to shift players to, in their hope, their own servers.

These feedback threads had good intentions. But it is rarely anything more than a flame thread.

There are different servers for different play styles, players, time zones etc. The servers are run their way, dont like it, go somewhere else.

If you really think that coming HERE and crapping all over the server managers is going to make them change, you need to grow up, move out of mommies house and get a job in the real world.
Common sense tells you that a human being is not going to "see it your way" when you shit all over them, mock them, berate them and troll them.

The above is feedback, feedback on the feedback.

[Jevski]

@Jevski IRL i do not accept wrong behaviour either (except my very own ofc). If everyone would always just let go our society was a sad place. I understand your point though, its just not really helping right now.

But thats the thing, we are not talking about our society, we are talking about a single server.

If I told you I like the color blue, but you like yellow better, does not mean that anyone of us is wrong.

We are not talking about ignoring someone getting beat up in the street here, but how a server is being managed. In a way a server is kinda like a business, if they perform well, they will get money from sponsors who like the server, if they behave like ******** players will stop coming there, the flow of money will eventually stop, and the server will shut down.

But coming here demanding that the server is managed in a certain way is just as stupid as me demanding McDonald should change their food because I dont like it.

Why is it that that sweedensnipers statement that he only has 2 hours of spare time to play or gwa1hir that there is only one server up to play on have more value than all the other players and admins who have no problem with the server at all? Thats entitlement in my opinion. Just because you dont agree with it, does not mean THEY should change to fit your views. You can voice your opinion as feedback and make suggestions, but just because they dont agree with them does not make them wrong.



IRL have you ever heard of such a ludicrous statement? - "I dont like X" therefor YOU must change.....really?

How about we all goto the suggestion forum, and demand fastropes, better graphics and what not, and when the DEV's say no, we start berating them on how they are wrong.

[sweedensniiperr]

since their own servers sit empty, they MUST **** talk others in a crude attempt to shift players to, in their hope, their own servers.

I don't own a server. Nor am I affiliated, admining or anything on a server. Is my feedback not valid?

I could see why someone would dismiss feedback from a competitor - not that it would make any more sense.

But coming here demanding that the server is managed in a certain way is just as stupid as me demanding McDonald should change their food because I dont like it. IRL have you ever heard of such a ludicrous statement? - "I dont like X" therefor YOU must change.....really?

Do you know what the word feedback means?

I am not demanding anyone to change. Every server has the right to its own rules - I respect that. Does that mean you should dismiss feedback? In fact I agree with some decisions PRTA has done and disagree with others. I state what I like and don't like with the server - should I hold my tongue? Sorry but I'm not the kind of man shuts up if there's something I don't like.

[Jevski]

It sure sounds like it.

What if I only have 2hrs free on my week and want to play pr? Should I just give up? When the other servers are russian Chinese or American? Please.

It sounds like you wont accept that they run the server like they want to. If you dont like to play like it is right now, and you cant change how they run it, then yes your only option is to give up.

As Super has stated most of the above is just ranting, it has nothing to do with feedback.

Im not telling you to shut up, but to accept that some thing wont change. You are all taking their choice of not following your feedback as a personal attack. But you then say that since you only have 2 hours to play, you are right and they are wrong, you dont even consider the option NOT to play.

I think this statement of yours says it quite well.

People don't want to attack your precious server, they want a good server.

Just because some disagree with how its run, does not make it a bad server, just different. And thats what players dont get, they go its MY way, or the wrong way.