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Smiley1967
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Re: PRTA

Post by Smiley1967 »

MasterHenaz wrote:Earlier today while we were playing Dragon Fly INS the brits were putting mines on the choke points leading out of militia main base and when we reported it an admin said "It's allowed because not on DoD" when their rule says:
"8.1 Attacking main bases and repair stations is prohibited. This includes camping the DoD and any choke point leading out of it.The only exception to this rule is when the main base is an active and cap-able flag."
Clearly the admin was not aware of their own rules.

Would hope for equality on the server
Old discussion I would say, mines are in my opinion an inactive threat cause you can easily defuse them, destroy them or just move around them. So it is on your own to spot them. Sure it is cancer if you want to use your asset etc. but hey war is cruel^^
Camping is more like you wait with an rpg, tow, asset and so on in front of their main base.
Bastiannn
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Re: PRTA

Post by Bastiannn »

Smiley1967 wrote:Old discussion I would say, mines are in my opinion an inactive threat cause you can easily defuse them, destroy them or just move around them. So it is on your own to spot them. Sure it is cancer if you want to use your asset etc. but hey war is cruel^^
Camping is more like you wait with an rpg, tow, asset and so on in front of their main base.
The main point which MasterHenaz had is not about the mines themselves, but more about the rules and how they are enforced on PRTA as some admins plainly don't know the rules or are bending them in their advantage and their clan friends advantage while taking the same rules and enforcing them on some individuals more or less targeted for mixed reasons and then they are left wondering why all the negative feedback and think that so many people have a vendetta against PRTA and at this point everyone who reads these forums knows the story more or less.
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RaNa-Rocxs
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Re: PRTA

Post by RaNa-Rocxs »

Last night I'm playing in PRTA I am very disappointed, we are playing Wanda Shan and we create a APC squad
And some guys make armored squad and on starting of map that armored squad take all our apcs
we make many reports against that squad after 10 or 15 reports admin just ask us in our shit rules armored squad can take all Tanks and APCs wtf so what about other 8 players in my squad armored squad locked squad with 6 players on beginning of map they take our all APCs and within 10 or 15 minutes lost all APCs LOL and on completing of 20 minutes tanks is ready for that armored squad and we're just looking each other what the f*** is that
please don't mind but your this Rule is suck
you guys really need to review your Rules

thanks
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RaNa-Rocxs
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Re: PRTA

Post by RaNa-Rocxs »

Have a great fun today in your server keep it up Guys
i am requesting to PRTA Administration please Enble !admins command and Some time do Map Votes and you guys really need to review your armored squad Rules


Thanks.
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fecht_niko
Posts: 347
Joined: 2013-06-29 13:42

Re: PRTA

Post by fecht_niko »

Bastiannn wrote:The main point which MasterHenaz had is not about the mines themselves, but more about the rules and how they are enforced on PRTA as some admins plainly don't know the rules or are bending them in their advantage and their clan friends advantage while taking the same rules and enforcing them on some individuals more or less targeted for mixed reasons and then they are left wondering why all the negative feedback and think that so many people have a vendetta against PRTA and at this point everyone who reads these forums knows the story more or less.
This should be a good exemple for such actions:

Admin Report - Admin How should i know? reported by Mats391 | PRTA - Project Reality Teamwork Alliance
Vista
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Joined: 2011-04-30 10:36

Re: PRTA

Post by Vista »

Exactly.

Make a report with valid points about admin abuse/bias - get ignored and the thread gets locked. That's PRTA for you.
RaNa-Rocxs
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Re: PRTA

Post by RaNa-Rocxs »

We re like to play in your server but your some admin need to learn how to respect other
Clans and members also need to know where is main and DOD.
Today we are playing fallujah West and your admin first he kill me and after that
he's warn me and my full squad without any reason.
I think admin name is A-|Cpt Vatsug He was warn us for firing in main
please tell your admins J4 Keypad 7 and J3 keypad 1 is not a main and not a DOD never-mind we finished this there.
just I respond in main and i call my squad back in main we are just try to leave US main enemy RPG kill us in C12 keypad 3 that was in DOD. We are try to make a report to admin for this and admin start warn to us for spamming.
I am trying to find battle record link but your battle record link is not worked

If your admins don't like us we are not playing in your server.


Well thanks for big respect I am very disappointing today.
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ArkUTD
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Joined: 2017-01-26 17:03

Re: PRTA

Post by ArkUTD »

RaNa-xXx1 wrote:We re like to play in your server but your some admin need to learn how to respect other
Clans and members also need to know where is main and DOD.
Today we are playing fallujah West and your admin first he kill me and after that
he's warn me and my full squad without any reason.
I think admin name is A-|Cpt Vatsug He was warn us for firing in main
please tell your admins J4 Keypad 7 and J3 keypad 1 is not a main and not a DOD never-mind we finished this there.
just I respond in main and i call my squad back in main we are just try to leave US main enemy RPG kill us in C12 keypad 3 that was in DOD. We are try to make a report to admin for this and admin start warn to us for spamming.
I am trying to find battle record link but your battle record link is not worked

If your admins don't like us we are not playing in your server.


Well thanks for big respect I am very disappointing today.
i wouldnt jump to conclusions but, Battle Recorder | PRTA - Project Reality Teamwork Alliance

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Mats391
PR:BF2 Lead Developer
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Re: PRTA

Post by Mats391 »

I dont really care about them locking thread. However the latest response
Do note this issue was resolved by the admin team and mats, thus this was closed
is false. No one ever talked with me about anything.
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AlonTavor
PR:BF2 Developer
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Re: PRTA

Post by AlonTavor »

If only there was some tool to view rounds in an easier way...
Clund
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Re: PRTA

Post by Clund »

[R-CON]AlonTavor wrote:If only there was some tool to view rounds in an easier way...
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Reason: removed link cause it shouldn't be public
blacktea65
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Joined: 2013-10-12 21:23

Re: PRTA

Post by blacktea65 »

release the memes
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Suchar
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Re: PRTA

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Buschpilot453
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Re: PRTA

Post by Buschpilot453 »

Quite ironic, a server that puts "teamwork" in its name and then you have admins rather trolling other players instead of helping the team.
Map was AlBasrah, tried to grab a medic kit on the APC next to me so i can revive my squad. Vatsug driver/gunner of said APC (also admin on this server) decided to back of 50m with the APC instead of helping my squad with the words:" Quick backup, before he can grab a kit..."
Seems like Vatsug is a funny guy.
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RaNa-Rocxs
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Re: PRTA

Post by RaNa-Rocxs »

Buschpilot453 wrote:Quite ironic, a server that puts "teamwork" in its name and then you have admins rather trolling other players instead of helping the team.
Map was AlBasrah, tried to grab a medic kit on the APC next to me so i can revive my squad. Vatsug driver/gunner of said APC (also admin on this server) decided to back of 50m with the APC instead of helping my squad with the words:" Quick backup, before he can grab a kit..."
Seems like Vatsug is a funny guy.
Wow :)
Quick backup, before he can grab a kit disgusting really don't know what's wrong with this guy. He did shit with us last night.
He is don't know where is the main and where is DOD
Thank you ArkUTD for helping us you also know how much we are breaking rules.
we are playing many of times under you and Tommygun nothing shit happen with us like this.
You both guys try to do something good but people like A-|Cpt Vatsug really disgusting
Your some admin need to learn this game. Project Reality is only for team workers and Of course where is the main and where is DOD

Thanks
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gwa1hir
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Re: PRTA

Post by gwa1hir »

holy shit this is getting better and better. this really makes me ask what value does a PR server license have nowadays. does the server license mean completely nothing? how can a shit hole like PRTA not be threatened with getting their license taken? who the hell is responsible for handing out licenses and revoking them? whoever it is, he should consider doing his job. just look at what happened here the last few months. how can this be ANYWHERE NEAR what the license agreement demands????? please tell me that you at least started warning these guys in private or something. this is completely ridiculous.....
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viirusiiseli
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Re: PRTA

Post by viirusiiseli »

Unfortunately, to my experience on this server the main focus of admining is concentrated first on small issues (no mic, no sl kit, armour instead of armor in squad name, no freekit squad).

Often when you report an issue such as someone stealing an asset, players wanting a switch to their friends, next map not being set, (yesterday Burning Sands twice, killed the server) or other slightly more pressing issues, there is no response or it is extremely delayed.

Yet admins go looking for those smaller issues when bigger issues are actively being reported.

If you guys in PRTA, could again simplify your rule set to serve players better along with your focus in admining, it would make the server enjoyable. Currently your sight is set on this utopian view of teamwork and it does not simply work, as seen from your very own feedback thread.

You simply don't need this much text to tell players how to play. You need to teach and exercise common sense, with the base being a simple rule set.

PRTA Ruleset
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Raidonrai
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Joined: 2015-01-23 15:17

Re: PRTA

Post by Raidonrai »

viirusiiseli wrote: armour instead of armor in squad name
The selective enforcement of this rule in particular is hilarious. Depending on what way the wind's blowing (Or more literally, who's got the squad) you'll be told that either it doesn't matter, or to read the rules.
ArkUTD
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Joined: 2017-01-26 17:03

Re: PRTA

Post by ArkUTD »

RaNa-xXx1 wrote:Wow :)


Thank you ArkUTD for helping us you also know how much we are breaking rules.
we are playing many of times under you and Tommygun nothing shit happen with us like this.
You both guys try to do something good but people like A-|Cpt Vatsug really disgusting
Your some admin need to learn this game. Project Reality is only for team workers and Of course where is the main and where is DOD

Thanks
No problem RaNa, we do try our best, sometimes (as youve seen here) its not always enough for some.

Your issue with Vatsug is a little confusing. As i'm aware he administrates the server better than i do, yet plays in a different fashion to a 'normal' Squad leader. Now before you all hate, hear me out, most people what the play the objective, on our server we encourage it, but the visible objectives are what most people see. Vats and me play the hidden part of the game, where we attack supply lines and spawn points, so that it is easier for people attacking a flag to get in and hold it. (Of Course not everyone sees it like that).
viirusiiseli wrote:Unfortunately, to my experience on this server the main focus of admining is concentrated first on small issues (no mic, no sl kit, armour instead of armor in squad name, no freekit squad).

Often when you report an issue such as someone stealing an asset, players wanting a switch to their friends, next map not being set, (yesterday Burning Sands twice, killed the server) or other slightly more pressing issues, there is no response or it is extremely delayed.

Yet admins go looking for those smaller issues when bigger issues are actively being reported.

If you guys in PRTA, could again simplify your rule set to serve players better along with your focus in admining, it would make the server enjoyable. Currently your sight is set on this utopian view of teamwork and it does not simply work, as seen from your very own feedback thread.

You simply don't need this much text to tell players how to play. You need to teach and exercise common sense, with the base being a simple rule set.

PRTA Ruleset
Hey viirus, first off nice info, like it, hope what i say can help;

1. You say our main focus is to do 'Minor' issues. As admins we have to make sure people on our server have mics, Squad Leader kits and such to give the in game hierarchy a chance to work. Yes we do look into this issue a lot but its part of our rules and a fundamental part of the game.

2. The other issues you state is that we don't deal with assets being stolen, switches and such though. I'll personally say that when assets have been stolen i have taken action, and i Apologise if this hasn't happened in your case, but we do have to investigate these things. False reports are always coming in and we like to look into it so that we can make sure we get the right guy warned, this would be why you see a delay.

3. On the switching note, its not easy to switch people when the server is full, kind of hard sometimes with trying to please everyone, we have to find a balance sometimes. I recommend switching at the beginning of rounds as most times there will always be room to cross teams.

4. And finally, the Rules. ill say this, that they are due an update, which is in the works, but this takes time to get done. What i Recommend is to post a suggestion HERE and add a poll or something to get support on what rules should be changed or removed. I also recommend that when you do post this, Add an change that you think would work better or an alternative rule to replace/add in its place.


And to those here that complain about PRTA, thats fine, im sure you'll all have fun seeding other EU servers, because as its been said before, we are not the only server in the EU cluster, and others like Area 94, DPRC, have different rules that im sure youll find to your liking. This game has choice, and you are free to chose what do in terms of what server to join.

And a lot of you guys are hating on admins, telling them how to do there job. We put a lot of free time into this server as does any other admin for any other server, and where players too, who wish to enjoy the game.


On a personal note: i know some of you dislike me, but i what to help you guys, but, sometimes i despair at doing that because you all Demand something to be done NOW! Its not that easy. Please, be patient with us, don't give us attitude, or you wont get anything done. Also i know some of you will shit on this post, fine, but im just trying to help you guys and if this isn't enough, then fine, continue what you where doing and i hope you good times in this game.
DogACTUAL
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Re: PRTA

Post by DogACTUAL »

gwa1hir wrote:this really makes me ask what value does a PR server license have nowadays. does the server license mean completely nothing? how can a shit hole like PRTA not be threatened with getting their license taken?
I could say the same about 1 or 2 other servers, but everyone is only dogpiling on PRTA for some reason.

Your rant is totally true in general though, 1 or 2 servers have discovered that they can get away with anything and can abuse their adminship and harass players.

They are on some kind of powertrip and think they have the right to do anything because it is their server, without realizing that they need the playerbase atleast just as much as they need them.
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