I was not done :-|

[P4R4S]

First of all it's a cheeck that you closed my thread before let me reply to your "reproaches".

1. You need a certain number of posts (i think 10) to make a suggestion.
2. It's been suggested before (search harder).
Spoiler for a few examples:

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f11-of ... ystem.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f11-of ... ystem.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f11-of ... ystem.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f11-of ... style.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f11-of ... ystem.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f11-of ... ystem.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f11-of ... nking.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f11-of ... s-etc.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f11-of ... stats.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f11-of ... uture.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f11-of ... stion.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f11-of ... ystem.html

3. It's up to us to decide what gets approved, we didn't deem it worth approving and thus didn't.

It's annoying to not get any feedback on why your thread wasn't approved but you have to understand we get quite a few suggestions, replying to each of them would get pretty tiring.

- I get the message I need to wait for authorization for my suggestion after sending it in. Maybe you should change this message than. As far I can see this it's not my fault!

- I searched! It's not my problem if you not update your list or called this topic different (but it even has the same titel "ranking" so it's the first point I guess). I will not have a look in every single thread especially if there is a list of any topic.
I followed the orders of this thread: https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr-bf2-suggestions/18434-already-suggested-suggestions-***-disallowed-suggestions.html
I also watched every point:
1. In my eyes it was and still is worth it!
2. well I did - I checked the list and not found it (search for rank or ranking or progress you will find nothing)
3. sure I did - the points are there but they have no sense - so an acctual ranking system not excists!
4. If it fits with the main aim? Sure it does!

As you said - you get a lot of suggestions and excuse me if I not found them but don't tell me I didn't search - I had to search not to find it. If I had found one I hadn't suggested for it!
But im wondering why you found it that fast and than there are several others who suggested it - Im possitivly impressed - seems like Im not the only one who would like to see this happen

It was a terrible terrible suggestion, it will never be done. Games are not about "filling bars" and it saddens me that these days players think that "filling bars" enhances a game. No body cares about these things here.

Suggestions are hidden by default, no one approved yours.

- a terrible idea Are you try kidding me or are you just retarded or ignorant?
To make progress or at least have an intended use for the points should be a bad idea... I think you have no idea about what you talking about or can you maybe tell me why this should be a bad idea

No sorry but this argument is none and complete ridiculous and just stupid!
I mean you're serious? Games are not to fill bars? What the hell you're talking about? What bars? You talking about rank up/ making progress? What are games for? Does they have to follow an order - a directive?
Games are there to make fun that's the only acctual sense and they should give the function to make progress and the most - nearly any - does so excuse me if I'll not agree!
Roleplay-games for example - a lvl system and/ or skill system. Most shooters as well. I think there is no genre without it - few games not have one but they are an exception!
In games with a storyline the progress is to follow the story - to finish it and for others it's to come to the next level, make a highscore or similiar.
As I said even in real life you get promoted - do you think EA invented the ranks or in real life they play in the lottery to promote/ rank soldiers? Gratulation private you won - now you're the general?
Oh I see I become to sarcastic... oh and by the way - to your "these days" - even in Tetris you're able to make progress... and that's one of the oldest games excisting. A ranking system is just one way and the best fitting one in this game/ simulation and a fucking good one as well!
As far as I see PR is a war-simulation so it's a bit of a kind of roleplay.
I don't know but you sound really like you have no idea or just no arguments but a big problem with this thopic or maybe with me or why you so rude and such a prick - excuse me if I steped on your feets with it or if you have a personal problem but I give a damn especially now after your unacceptable reply - no realy you better had never send it in!

As I said you (acctualy) have/ get points in the game but for what reason if they have no sense no effect ? Maybe you should take them out! In real life you also have no kill/death ratio like in this one - in real life you're death and no respawn etc. so let me ask if this is in the main aim of Project Reality? Let me answer for you - NO - because it's not realistic but it's implemented as well!

In real life and also in games - it's the same thing: it's all about making progress or at least it's a big point what belongs to every single person to decide it for himseld and also brings motivation and intention to play/ go on with it. I mean only because you're able to rank up this not means you need to, to play the game and what is it you have to loose?
If you see this different I can't comprehend it and I tried I think you didn't!

So your point about "nobody cares here" does not make sense either even if you only limit it to this game - as I see im not alone with this idea! And I guess if you would ask around many others wouldn't agree to you as well - do you think because you have this opinion anybody else has? It's not my opinion and Im somebody

But if it's your opinion you can delete your rank here and give it to me - because it's not about

This hole topic isn't done! I want to have one real argument why this should be a terrible idea! Or for what reason this shouldn't be implemented?!
The only reason I can imagine to not implement it would be that this would be to hard for you to realise. And that's a part I wouldn't complain about because Im not a coder and have no idea how complicated this might be to realise.


Damn... this became a very big large text and that only because Im confronted with complete ignorant or arrogant people... and that's unfortunately something what triggers me and makes me mad!
But well... I wasn't done with this conversation/ thread and now I think everything at least from my side is mentioned and I defined my position - do with it what you want.
Maybe it will effect something and if it's only to let people see reason - but I think I speak against a wall... a wall made out of pricks :3

[AlonTavor]

tl;dr, You'll grow out of it.

Also I don't know who locked the last thread, I personally wanted to keep it open.

[Max_]

I do read all the suggestions.
Some of them are rarely good but not worth approving myself.


As for you suggestions, The ranking system...

A core mechanic of PR is that there's no Ranking system, A so good mechanic and it is even followed through SQUAD.

Why we won't do a Ranking system, the game is about Teamwork not about judging people based from their rank instead of the current social reputation that they have earned from the community and it would just make new players get alienated in the long run.


As for your second suggestion, Bandage are useless.

The only reason to die from not enough Field Dressings is being a lonewolf or part of an asset crew that lost their vehicle far away from objectives.

EDIT: Moved the thread in General Discussion because it's PR related.

[mectus11]

something something PR is a war simulator, something something roleplay something something I'm global elite so my elitism will tell me that everyone beneath me is trash something something you suck.

I think that's how most online ranked games go.

[UTurista]

Indeed... its so sad to see players who say <insert bad design> is a good thing.

So why is the progression system a bad thing ( to players ) ?

Well the simplest progression method is rank which means jack shit. Two players can be in the same rank yet one is a good player and plays occasionally while the other is awfully but plays 24/7 and accumulates enough points.
conclusion: progression is shit

A more sophisticated progression method could be "skill". Unfortunately is impossible to find an algorithm that takes in consideration every player's action and rewards him accordingly.
Games that implement this "skill" system rely on few points like kills and deaths (K/D) which makes players fight for these points and ignoring others as important.
conclusion: progression is shit

There's also a 3rd type of progression - unlocks.
This method is shit for the simple reason that is unfair right from the start. In order to make appellative to grind these unlocks, the good ones are usually the last ones (to unlock) which means new players have a harder time due to the fact they have to grind all their way to the top against veterans who have these better unlocks.
conclusion: progression is shit

TL-DR
progression is shit

Progression system in 1 picture

[LiamBai]

Maybe it will effect something and if it's only to let people see reason - but I think I speak against a wall... a wall made out of pricks :3

If everybody thinks your suggestion is wrong, they must all just be ******** right?

[Rabbit]

Maybe it just cause I have been around for awhile but I think this is/was a pretty common suggestion if it is about unlocking stuff. I remember it largely with aircraft and snipers.

[Heavy Death]

This time for real. I can feel actual sickness.

So your point about "nobody cares here" does not make sense either even if you only limit it to this game - as I see im not alone with this idea!

Yes! In the last years the ammount of people who have absolute no fucking clue what the game is about nor desire to understand it has skyrocketed.

Cue the obligatory: Go play COD/BF/Titanfall/anothergenericshooterwithranksandprogression

OR epic troll. n which case cool.

[Mineral]

Oh look , I lock it again. Please don't make another thread. You have gotten a response 10x times now explaining the system.