(Vehicle) Stryker MGS - M1128 Mobile Gun System

[LangMaster]

Yes, our tanks already move due to force of firing.

Ah shit, i am blind then, where is my 1k hours in this game.

[LangMaster]

Well i was playing around a bit since i kinda finished the high poly model i wanted to try out baking it, i have seem to failed in many ways from youtube tutorials.


As you can see from the first image, something is wrong, i have baked the stuff onto other faces.
And the process i went through was wrong and did not even work as well when i tried to follow the tutorials, in the first place i dont need to make materials for the high poly model but if i dont do it i cannot bake it, so i select first the low poly model and then the high, i bake it and it gives me the first image, i can see the details from high in the texture image though.

If i make the material for the high poly model, i select first the high poly to low poly model, i bake it, there are no details seen in the image from the high poly model, and it makes the image texture for the UV High model which is wrong because the UV for the low is totally different. aaaaaaaaaa! But hey i went really far so i am proud of my self, i never expect my self to get to this stage so yeah.

I have thought that the selection of UVs is wrong but it seems to take the low poly model which is good

[LangMaster]

I am down to 5300 tris now.
I have found some modules that a missed so i added them.

[LangMaster]

Okay so i finally moved forward again, after alot of troubleshooting i managed to bake a proper normal map, for now with the details i have, i will definitely later on do some metal scratches etc so it looks very high detailed.


Marked with Red those are the parts that are in the normal map and so it makes the high poly ilusion.

[Hans_Strudel]

Main gun barrel is still too detailed, 10 sides for such big cylinder is enough to look properly, UV map still has so much empty space. What's the resolution of your normal map and have you tried ambient occlusion map baking yet?

[LangMaster]

Main gun barrel is still too detailed, 10 sides for such big cylinder is enough to look properly, UV map still has so much empty space. What's the resolution of your normal map and have you tried ambient occlusion map baking yet?

Well i have realized that the baking is a bit glitchy and does not like having multiple different objects next to each other that is why i tried only one part, i am still experimenting for now, but i thought 2048x2048 would be good for everything packed together.

About the uv, well i don't know what you want from me honestly, when you a pack of beers obviously the round base will have space between and there is nothing i can do with it, the uv planner does this for me and i don't think i can do better job than a program.

I really wanted to test this at least becase for a weird reason baking was not working for me and i had alot of glitches, i wanna try some advanced material making with nodes later.

[Hokunin]

You could save up a lot of tris number by detaching smoke tubes from that square platforms, making square platform a simple shape with far fewer vertexes. But don't forget to move smoke tube base a bit more into the square platform after detachment, because then in game there might be visual glitches from afar, as if they are floating separately.

As for UV management, you could do it by hand, or use better UV specialized softwares like RizomUV for automated UV placing, it gives best results for auto UV. You have enormous spaces wasted. Those giant holes inside and between big islands could be filled with smaller UV islands, which would give you possibility to increasing overall UVs sizes - which would result in crisper more quality textures for the model, instead of blurred mush.

But all this is just advice, you can do whatever.

[LangMaster]

You could save up a lot of tris number by detaching smoke tubes from that square platforms, making square platform a simple shape with far fewer vertexes. But don't forget to move smoke tube base a bit more into the square platform after detachment, because then in game there might be visual glitches from afar, as if they are floating separately.

As for UV management, you could do it by hand, or use better UV specialized softwares like RizomUV for automated UV placing, it gives best results for auto UV. You have enormous spaces wasted. Those giant holes inside and between big islands could be filled with smaller UV islands, which would give you possibility to increasing overall UVs sizes - which would result in crisper more quality textures for the model, instead of blurred mush.

But all this is just advice, you can do whatever.

Well i have been told that the individual parts and materials cause additional draw calls and are the biggest bottleneck of the game ? i am not sure if it works the same way as if they are tagged still as one object ?

But if not that would really change alot ot stuff again.

[Hokunin]

- you're only gonna detach smoke tubes from the geometry, it doesn't create a new drawcall. Its not like you'll make them a separate object with its own textures.

- also forgot to mention. There must be a small empty space between UV islands, so that textures won't bleed into each other, especially on decreasing texture quality within game settings. In your screens, UV islands almost touching each other.

[LangMaster]

- you're only gonna detach smoke tubes from the geometry, it doesn't create a new drawcall. Its not like you'll make them a separate object with its own textures.

- also forgot to mention. There must be a small empty space between UV islands, so that textures won't bleed into each other, especially on decreasing texture quality within game settings. In your screens, UV islands almost touching each other.

alright, good to know, that kinda makes a life alot easier.

[LangMaster]

Seems like my baking works completely fine now, i moved alot of details into the texture it self though i will do alot by hand as well since light and shadows is my skill when it comes to pixel arts so this should be fine as well. I am down to 4400 tris now, i think i might be able to get it down still a little probably, then i will get to change the UV.

[Hokunin]

Did you detach this big flat object from the main mesh? You shouldn't detach it, because its flat and its surface located close to the surface of the main mesh, left like that it would "z-fight" from distance a lot. Also its very big, you'll save up UV space by welding it into the main mesh.

[LangMaster]

Did you detach this big flat object from the main mesh? You shouldn't detach it, because its flat and its surface located close to the surface of the main mesh, left like that it would "z-fight" from distance a lot. Also its very big, you'll save up UV space by welding it into the main mesh.

Alrighty, back to the drawing board. lol.

[ANW1173]

Alrighty, back to the drawing board. lol.

maybe this video helps you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... .46.05.mp4

[LangMaster]

Slight upgrade.

[Mats391]

That UV looks way better! Nicely done!

[LangMaster]

That UV looks way better! Nicely done!

Yeah i was looking for something but i cannot seem to find anything, even if you make blender to get the islands so they would waste the least space, i just decided to move them by my self then.

[LangMaster]

What are the next steps to make this work ?

[Hans_Strudel]

What are the next steps to make this work ?

Now you need to take a look ay whole model and clean it up from vertexes that don't affect mesh shape or non essential for UV.

For example i don't see any reason to keep these vertexes, because they don't affect form of an object from that perspective:


UV is great, can't say anything about it i would try to change.

[LangMaster]

Blender modifier does pretty good job at this, though i found some at the handles.