G3 Recoil

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Re: G3 Recoil

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Frontliner wrote:As you should be aware by now, we can't do separate recoil patterns for the firing modes unless you want full auto version to be its own, separate weapon slot, which you don't, so no actual solution is possible unless Alon finds a way to make it so.
tbh should be easy enough.
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Re: G3 Recoil

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transpilot wrote:There are several issues with the G3.

The slow firerate doesnt allow to spray someone in close range.
The 20 rounds magazine.
The stronger caliber doesnt give you an advantage because you also need only 2 bullets to the legs with any 5.56 guns.
I don't want to boast, but I consistently win surprise (for both sides) encounters in close range with 2-3 round bursts from G3, hipfire. I also consistently loose duels to G3 shooters, when I'm wielding e.g. polish AK.
No offence, but it's yet another angry noob topic. I was there, too, but have learnt to like G3 since.

I still kinda dislike the sound G3 makes, though.
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Re: G3 Recoil

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I don't find the recoil a problem. When fighting long range G3 is probably better than 5.56/5.45 ammo. And when in CQB i find that the RPM is more important(yes g3 is low but whatever)
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Re: G3 Recoil

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sweedensniiperr wrote:I don't find the recoil a problem. When fighting long range G3 is probably better than 5.56/5.45 ammo. And when in CQB i find that the RPM is more important(yes g3 is low but whatever)
Id say its issue is mag and recoil amount. Someone needs to call Pakistan and get them on 25 round mags.
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Re: G3 Recoil

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drum mags, when?
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PatrickLA_CA wrote:drum mags, when?

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Yeah but the drum mags in game don't ever seem to have any of those issues. :fryingpan
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Re: G3 Recoil

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Outlawz7 wrote:
Stick mags for ppsh when?
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sweedensniiperr wrote:Stick mags for ppsh when?
When taliban/militia/ins arnt shit.
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Re: G3 Recoil

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Gun still useless compared to All others. Any change coming?
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transpilot wrote:Gun still useless compared to All others. Any change coming?
We're testing a change to fix 900rpm having very little recoil, but I can't guarantee it yet.
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Re: G3 Recoil

Post by spacemarine42 »

I wonder if we could have BUIS for the scoped G3A3, perhaps replacing the Hensoldt scope with an ELCAN on some kits. (The MEC's MG3 already has an ELCAN!) It would make the gun much less crippling at close ranges.
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Re: G3 Recoil

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spacemarine42 wrote:I wonder if we could have BUIS for the scoped G3A3, perhaps replacing the Hensoldt scope with an ELCAN on some kits. (The MEC's MG3 already has an ELCAN!) It would make the gun much less crippling at close ranges.
That scope has no place on a Rifle like the G3 honestly I rather get the red dot on every g3 than deal with that optics.
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Re: G3 Recoil

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AlonTavor wrote:We're testing a change to fix 900rpm having very little recoil, but I can't guarantee it yet.
The biggest issue is that even on single fire the gun cant match any other proper rifle. The time between each accurate bullet is double than m16
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Re: G3 Recoil

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G3 deviation time for 1 bullet is 0.91s, m16 is 0.85s.
G3 deviation is fine. issue is only recoil.
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Re: G3 Recoil

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AlonTavor wrote:G3 deviation time for 1 bullet is 0.91s, m16 is 0.85s.
G3 deviation is fine. issue is only recoil.
than fix recoil if you dont want hisbollah to knock on your door


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Re: G3 Recoil

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You guys leave the gun as it is the only "issue" is the recoil and you get used to it in full auto just like any other gun in PR.

Dont mess with the accuracy l never noticed missing a significant amount of bullets due to the accuracy. Its basically already a Marksman rifle in the hands of skilled users with little room for escape if under fire without cover, have the accuracy increased and perhaps it will even be frustrating dealing agaisnt MEC
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Brotherscompany wrote:You guys leave the gun as it is the only "issue" is the recoil and you get used to it in full auto just like any other gun in PR.
They're not changing it as far as I'm concerned reading the chat. They're just making guns that shoot faster have higher recoil.. (But wouldn't that include Machine guns?) So no more Full auto M4 Variants (Canadian n Netherlands) with little to no recoil.

Right about now honestly the updated damage stats (Occurred at 1.4.8.0) needs to be tweaked and brought back.

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Re: G3 Recoil

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Brotherscompany wrote:Its basically already a Marksman rifle in the hands of skilled users
It's really not as Deviation does not account for a user's skill. The 7.62x51mm assault rifles are only marginally better than the 5.56 assault rifles in the accuracy department. Any notion of being able to perceive the superior accuracy G3/FAL/M14 have over, say, an M16 or C7, is wishful thinking or placebo or both.
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Re: G3 Recoil

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transpilot wrote:than fix recoil if you dont want hisbollah to knock on your door


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