Overall population drops when HOG is up

[Joovy]

The overall game population drops when the hog server is operating and the proof is on PRstats.tk.

You can see on the population graph on that website that on 8/4/21 Hog server went down and Unit-777 Server took over for 4 days straight, operating a full server at all times with the server maintaining over 80-90 players until 8/8/21.

The HOG server is up right now and has 60 players and game global population of 600 players daily. When unit 777 was up for those 4 days the game averaged over 1000 players daily. This means 400 players who want to play are banned on HOG and only play when an admin abuse free server is up. Having almost half the daily players banned on hog is a joke and really shows how lop sided the banning sytem is on HOG is.

R-Devs you need to step in and shut down HOG for the good of the game. Hell you can see the population shift right before your eyes. Do somthing.

[Tomasinost]

Devs are not gona do anything about it,its basically hog breaking nearly all ''server license'' stuff and even if more players would talk about this its not gona change anything.Hog admins are known for all the abuse of admin rights and even if u have facts or proof it doesnt matter,or like last time on the ''server feedback'' that its actually devs fault so people will not blame hog as a server.
Then there is no double standarts for all servers basically devs dont care about it at all.Only option is to not play on hog and boycott it and just dont play pr or seed when the others server have seeding days.

Only option is to drop population of the game so devs will actually have to do something or nothing,but if they like that their game is become cringeworld of big admin abuse then have it

[Coalz101]

In before the thread gets archived.

[UncleSmek]

Good point.

Its no question HOG already destroyed most of the NA player base, now their abuse stretches over the remaining EU players. Its sad to see.

[rogdozz]

I thought we need HOG because its the only DDOS resistant server? Or has the DDOS guy stopped?

[lespyd]

I usually read and don't respond to feedback, but I'll jump in as this seems to be misinformation which can easily be contradicted by numbers, which based on your post history, seems to be your prerogative, unfortunately.

1. Are we looking at the same website? Because the graphs tell the opposite story. Regardless of its accuracy, all admins can attest that Mon-Wednesday are the slowest days globally.


2. Our ban list is way less than your estimated number, probably by 2x (hard to know for sure as we have pre 1.5 hashes). Of the perm'd people I'd estimate 70% is racists and mass tker's of whom did not appeal. We do not take racism lightly, and I'm sorry you don't agree with a 1 month minimum ban that gets lifted should they appeal.

Here's some feedback:

I believe your energy could be better spent seeding other servers that have rulesets that are closer aligned to your playstyle. You may not do it, which is funny, because HOG does. I've personally helped PR Boomers analyze network data, and even worked with them to pick up players for a weekend. Feel free to ask Aleon.

Not only that, but spend your energy teaching and welcoming new players. I'm sorry but here's some cold hard criticism: I have not seen a single person in this thread welcome new players into their squads; in fact, I've seen people in this thread kick noobs and only play with their clanmates or stack a team full of veterans. If you think this is my opinion alone, please do ask other admins (which by the way, are often admins of other communities) who would agree. I feel like this could be a bigger variable in retaining players.

Please do not expect me to participate further in this thread as these often lack the full picture, but I did want to address your incorrect facts.

Have a nice day.

[Joovy]

The truth hurts, thats why Lespyd is here responding to this thread. Im not the only one who sees it too, check these other post here backing me up and just look at PRstats.tk for yourself. 40 Percent increase in overall daily players when HOG server goes down. The proof is right in front of your eyes. And lespyd here will probably ban anyone who repost on this thread and supports the truth.


And Lespyd everyone knows the 70 year old admins run HOG server behind closed doors and your just a Pawn dishing out abuse when they dislike someone so they can cut off any traces of admin abuse under their names. The perfect example of group bullying and admin abuse. And now hes here on head admin orders to post and defend HOG. Thats how it works on HOG, Older head admins order the junior Pawns around to do their dirty work so they cant be traced back to their own Abuses.

If you dont believe me go to HOG forums and look some of lesypd most recent post. He just permanently banned someone for changing their name and in another thread below they just banned someone for making a joke. Perma banned for joking ?

Weve seen you ban players who have played for 10 or 15 years countless times because your ego was offended as admin and you put your own ego before the community that is killing this game.

Shut them down, its for the good of the game and community, if you dont the community will get worse and downsize faster and faster as hog admins run out of players to abuse. We have new and fair servers ready to take its place. End the abuse.

[lespyd]

Resorting to insults and assumptions? K.

[Brotherscompany]

This thread aside, Leys is indeed making a fair point of the fact Veterans stacking on the same side and having a heavier impact in the gameplay.

As it stands there are lot of new faces and and unfortunately a lowered player base skill game, experienced players do carry a heavy weight on a team in terms of effectiveness and the honestly the fun of the game. lts not fun at all being absolutely raped by capable players when the other team is scratching their head which from which position the fire should be coming from.

Honestly we are at a point where we Veterans make a difference by our presence, and it would be nice to see a bit of more conscious as a team/community instead of yourself as a individual.


Im well aware I dont have the highest morale to speak of as I also enjoy having capable team mates and smooth games, but honestly today I felt this first hand in a more extreme situation as I was in the inexperienced side and it was simply powerless which in turn also affects the amount of people rage quitting or simply not wanting to play as the experience is not enjoyable in the slightest...

[Chuva_RD]

The AAS:INS vote is bad for gameplay because this poll depends on people who are on the server, and these people keep voting for their unicorn gamemode. One is forced to choose is he in AAS team or in INS team because consistency produces wins in votes. So if the majority consists of AAS voters, we play AAS whole day, and vice versa with INS.

This is bad. I think the 2 AAS to 1 INS ratio is better. It guarantees you play INS at least twice a day, and it does not allow one game mode to occupy the whole day.

[Nate.]

The overall game population drops when the hog server is operating and the proof is on PRstats.tk.

You can see on the population graph on that website that on 8/4/21 Hog server went down and Unit-777 Server took over for 4 days straight, operating a full server at all times with the server maintaining over 80-90 players until 8/8/21.

The HOG server is up right now and has 60 players and game global population of 600 players daily. When unit 777 was up for those 4 days the game averaged over 1000 players daily. This means 400 players who want to play are banned on HOG and only play when an admin abuse free server is up. Having almost half the daily players banned on hog is a joke and really shows how lop sided the banning sytem is on HOG is.

Nice analysis, but I doubt your maths holds up if you consider factors like that you were up on the weekend, and HOG during the week in your specific example. (Not to mention the conclusion about 400 banned players).

R-Devs you need to step in and shut down HOG for the good of the game. Hell you can see the population shift right before your eyes. Do somthing.

Players can choose which server to play on and we are not gonna mingle with their ability to do so.


And a final note on the reoccuring topic of HOG breaching the license agreement:
HOG is not in breach of the server license agreement. There are admins on the server when it's up. There is a (public! - unlike other servers) ban appeal forum in which appeals are dealt with, and my personal opinion is that also the quality of gameplay and admining has significantly improved in the past year.
You can PM me if you have proof of the opposite.

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