'Dtrich- wrote:X[']Another thought on the subject.. Thats the reason that the military uses jp8 and not regular diesel or unleaded. Because of the fact that jp-8 is less likely to ignite over the other two..
And because we have a metric *** load of it because we can use it to power anything and everything. Buying crappy fuel in bulk = cheaper = go army
And the only times we had humvee's burn was as a result of a large explosion (IED/Land Mine). Worst I saw as far as that goes was one of those little white toyota trucks have its gas tank burst after about 1000 rounds of .50 API-T go into it.
One time was due to diesel spilling onto very hot brakes driving through hilly country roads. That was the lorry in front of me. The lorry had personal kit packed tightly in it and we watched it set on fire and utterly burn out. Luckily my units personal gear was on the 4 tonner in front of that one, when we got to the next rest area in convoy we were sat for half an hour in vehicles until someone came and went to the coach next to us and led a very dismayed unit out and we were doing all we could not to cheer for the fact it wasn't our gear! (apparently the army didn't have insurance for our personal possessions the twats)
The second time was a ford mondeo we were travelling in. We think the mechanic had left a rag on top of the engine, that set on fire, causing all sorts of electrical problems when the top of the engine got affected by the flames. The car suddenly lost power as we turned out onto a motorway and luckily there was a hard shoulder immediately to park on, so clutch went in and we slid into a safe area. Smoke was pouring from under the bonnet and out the exhaust area. We had time to leave the vehicle, then run back to it and get personal possessions out before there was a whoomp of pressure and fire that rushed out from under the car, the bonnet and the exhaust. Just as the fire engine got there the front of the car was engulfing in flames and putting it out the black smoke covering the motorway lanes was impressive. The car was a right off and a chemical hazard and we had hell finding a temporary home for it as the law said we couldn't store it on our properties driveway due to the resulting chemical waste.
UK vehicles are designed pretty well and even driving them off a cliff you wouldn't expect to see the gas tanks exploding. I'd imagine spraying them with rounds (especially 5.56mm rounds) would more disable the drivers rather than the vehicle itself (aside from shooting out tyres) needing heavier single loading engine block killers (like used at NI checkpoints, can't fill a mag with them or mag will fall out of rifle!) to stop a car outright.
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see bro you are talking diesels.. Jp-8 is NOT pure diesel. Different form of it cheaper form less additives and you seem to be also talking about a car. Bit different type of fuel
That was a VBIED, commonly known as a car bomb. Usually much larger than an IED because the ground doesn't absorb any of the blast, the car becomes automatic shrapnel, and its a helluva lot easier to transport.
Most IED's consist of 2-3 60-81mm mortar rounds/155 artillery rounds. Still a heck of a large boom, but not quite that large.
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