quick question about LSW

[DVB] TRIggS · Post by **[DVB] TRIggS** » 2006-12-29 03:16

First of all my favorite weapon. As i see it now, the LSW is the same gun that the rifleman uses with the same zoom, same sound, only a beter model and 6 less mags. I think the LSW should either get more zoom or increased mags, otherwise it is a cooler, limited version of the L85A1. Is there any difference between the LSW and L85A1 in game?

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2006-12-29 10:28

The LSW has a longer barral and possbly and small handle at the back.
IT is a variation of the L85/SA80 (whatever the name) line of weapons, same weapon (calibre, mag type ext.) but with few alterations, giving it a greater range.
I also think it uses the same SUSAT scope - therefore increased zoom is impossible.
But like all these weapons you can add different scopes - so if the LSW was equipted with a nice little thermal baby with extra zoom, that would be cool with me.

Although i have never used the PR version, want to, but i never really play any maps that have em.

LSW: http://www.armedforces.co.uk/army/listings/l0042.html
IW: http://www.armedforces.co.uk/army/listings/l0041.html

@DEVs: "An Image Intensifier night sight, the CWS, has been produced for LSW, which gives excellent night vision out to 400m." = mabey, although it would not actualy make a sod of difference considering present night vision makes all scopes nightvision scopes........hmm

THe peeps who create that site i am damn sure, have never held a gun, "We believe that ..." - lol, they dont actualy know, it is possible we have tank but that cannot be confirmed - complete idiots.

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2006-12-29 12:35

I think its supposed to be more accurate than the standard L85A2 (due to the longer, heavier floating barrel) which is why it has fewer magazines. As previoulsy mentioned it can only use (in its current state, with a 19mm dovetail rail anyway) the SA80 Iron sights, SUSAT scope and CWS day/night sight. So properly "sniperizing" it to the level of say the SVD or Mk.12 is very trickey, and I would imagine that the DEVs are hesitant to give it more magazines becuase of the advantage that would have over other factions marksmen.

{XG} non_compliance · Post by **{XG} non_compliance** » 2006-12-29 13:34

which gun are you talking about? Obviously brit...but which class?

JellyBelly · Post by **JellyBelly** » 2006-12-29 13:42

Marksman pick-up.

{XG} non_compliance · Post by **{XG} non_compliance** » 2006-12-29 14:23

is that the sniper that looks like a Counter-Strike AWP? or a different gun?

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-12-29 14:29

{XG} non_compliance wrote:is that the sniper that looks like a Counter-Strike AWP? or a different gun?

no, thats the L115

this is the SA80, LSW

Basicly the L85A2, with a longer barrel and bi-pod. Used as a DMR. Its the sniper request kit for the brits on urban maps, like street, thou at the moment the model is really small, needs a new import.

rocket · Post by **rocket** » 2006-12-29 17:44

well it beats me to y the lsw is even under marksman and y the saw is even in the brits load out. the lsw should be under support, and the brits dont even use the saw....

Post by **eggman** » 2006-12-29 17:48

Model has been tweaked for v0.5.

It is more accurate than the other L85 variants in game, but still fires a standard NATO 5.56 round, so doesn't have the stopping power of the 7.62 based sniper rifles.

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2006-12-29 17:48

http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/pw/minimi.htm - WRONG

Post by **A.J.Sawyer** » 2006-12-29 17:49

We use the Minimi, which is a variation of the SAW.

The LSW only has a 30 Round magazine, not large enough for a support weapon in PR, the L86 LSW is also used as a marksman weapon by British Forces, thus making it a realistic Marksman weapon, ala project reality.

rocket · Post by **rocket** » 2006-12-29 17:52

.....thats not a saw

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2006-12-29 18:10

'[R-MOD wrote:A.J.Sawyer']We use the Minimi, which is a variation of the SAW.

Other way round, the SAW is a variant of the Minimi, but just about right.

And rocket, you think I'm happy with the Brits having the wussy heat shielded yankee version rather than the manly no heat shielded, folding tubular stocked paratrooper barreled version they should have?

Pantera · Post by **Pantera** » 2006-12-29 18:35

Ive used the LSW,

I can tell you, it is the SA-80 with a longer barrel (which gives it the extra accuracy), it has the Same SUSAT, and a small grip on the rear.

The LSW is also compatible with a round mag, which holds over 50+ rounds.

LSW :

Caliber: 5.56x45mm NATO
Weight: 7.3 kg empty, with SUSAT optical sight
Length: 900 mm
Length of barrel: 646 mm
Feeding: detachable box magazines, 30 rounds
Rate of fire: 610 - 775 rounds/min

SA80 :

Caliber: 5.56x45 NATO
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 780 mm (709 mm in Carbine variant)
Barrel length: 518 mm (442 mm in Carbine variant)
Weight: 4.13 kg (with SUSAT optical sight and no magazine); 5 kg with SUSAT and loaded with magazine with 30 rounds of ammunition
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Rate of fire: 650 rounds per minute
Effective range: about 500 meters (with SUSAT sights)

Hope that helps

joey_deacs · Post by **joey_deacs** » 2006-12-29 18:51

The weapon your talking about is the LSW exactly the same as the SA80 A1 but with a longer barrel and bypod to allow more accuratcy used by rifle man not support they would use a GPMG L8 / L38.
Now with the sa80 A2 the lsw is going out of service and being replaced with the "MINIMI" link provided http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/pw/minimi.htm this is used as a support weapon. The inf rifle man only has the sa80 A2 thats it. Hope V0.5 takes this into account.

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-12-29 19:05

Darth.Skyline wrote:Ive used the LSW,

I can tell you, it is the SA-80 with a longer barrel (which gives it the extra accuracy), it has the Same SUSAT, and a small grip on the rear.

The LSW is also compatible with a round mag, which holds over 50+ rounds.

Im pretty sure that drum mags for the SA80 are very, very rare.

joey_deacs · Post by **joey_deacs** » 2006-12-29 19:09

very rare indead they got rid of them due to the heat at the time was too much and caused stoppage`s. But yes there was a drum.

Pantera · Post by **Pantera** » 2006-12-29 19:15

Yeah it is a very rare, ive only seen it being used twice in the cadets.

I think drum mags should be used more.

Post by **UK_Force** » 2006-12-29 19:18

Top _Cat the great wrote:

@DEVs: "An Image Intensifier night sight, the CWS, has been produced for LSW, which gives excellent night vision out to 400m." = mabey, although it would not actualy make a sod of difference considering present night vision makes all scopes nightvision scopes........hmm

THe peeps who create that site i am damn sure, have never held a gun, "We believe that ..." - lol, they dont actualy know, it is possible we have tank but that cannot be confirmed - complete idiots.

The LSW is issued down to section level, it is the weapon of the marksman/sharpshooter, it is the A2 version, the susat is the same, it was designed as the Light Support weapon, originally

The CWS is issued to the SA80 , The GPMG, The MINIMI, not just the LSW.