Some new weapons?

Figisaacnewton · Post by **Figisaacnewton** » 2005-07-15 20:15

Wanted weapons... I would like to see the M8, not XM8. Flash bangs, WP nades (not smoke nades) on tanks, that actually burn people.

RPG! AT4! Not these gigantic Eryx and Predators, Javelins make more sense for US

All modern variations of the M21 as a sniper rifle, a real M24 (wtf no detachable clip,....) Lots of chinese weapons we haven't heard of...

TerribleOne · Post by **TerribleOne** » 2005-07-15 20:22

Ugly Duck wrote:
TerribleOne wrote:The post was not weapon suggestions that are in service.
And I never said it was. I stated that for realisms sake, these weapons will most likely not be added due to the fact that they are not used by any of the militaries represented in BF2. On another note, weapon customization is one thing, however soldiers can't just order a Desert Eagle and take it with them to Iraq.

I know that thats why i said:

"This game would be more fun if it had a larger weapon selection. So in this mod why couldent soldiers use other guns? it would be more fun."

i think it would be cool to have to unlock some weapons (the best ones) but also have the choice of at least two primary and secondary weapons and mabe even inventory.

Also instead of just unlocking weapons you could unlock an inventory iteem.

I just think that this mod need to look and react realistic but not follow limitations that the real world has. Afterall there is only one reason why soldiers dont have the choice for a vast majority of weapons. Money. It would cost the government a fortune to provide every soldier with a 50 cal DE lol! They buy in bulk of as few manufactures as possible to save money.

PR doesent have to have such limitations and i really do think the armory of weapons and kit should be opened much wider due to the fact "the more the better".

I want this mod to play, look and feel realistic but i dont want that to restrict some cool stuff thats available out there.

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-07-16 06:04

TerribleOne wrote:i think it would be cool to have to unlock some weapons (the best ones) but also have the choice of at least two primary and secondary weapons and mabe even inventory.

Also instead of just unlocking weapons you could unlock an inventory item.

Sidearms will not be included with all classes. As for inventory items, like explosives, pyrotechnics and tools, that may be. As for unlocklable, we are getting away from that.

TerribleOne wrote:PR doesent have to have such limitations and i really do think the armory of weapons and kit should be opened much wider due to the fact "the more the better".

I want this mod to play, look and feel realistic but i dont want that to restrict some cool stuff thats available out there.

Then it wouldn't be authentic. There are plenty of weapons out there that are actually in service that could be suggested and/or implemented.

Figisaacnewton wrote:All modern variations of the M21 as a sniper rifle, a real M24 (wtf no detachable clip,....) Lots of chinese weapons we haven't heard of...

Do you mean all modern variations of the M14 as a sniper rifle? The M21 is/was already a sniper rifle.

China may not always be an available threat force in PR, but they are a major arms exporter, so that may be a distinct possibility.

3FJ_Werner · Post by **3FJ_Werner** » 2005-07-16 10:07

TerribleOne wrote: the choice of at least two primary and secondary weapons

Like in CoD/MoHAA/Doom3/HL2 etc?

I'm actually (pleasantly) surprised it isn't that way in BF2.

waffenbaum · Post by **waffenbaum** » 2005-07-16 11:06

Actually, I know a major who got a customized service revolver for his birthday. It's VERY classy, with gold inlay and monogram. And he got to take it to Iraq as his sidearm. Probably because of his staus I'd imagine, but point is he was allowed. Last I heard he still hasn't fired a single shot.

Ugly Duck · Post by **Ugly Duck** » 2005-07-16 16:09

Other weapons to include could be the M240(British GPMG), M60E3, MP5SD, and M40A3. We've already seen one new US gun, I forget the name but is similar(not the same) to the SPR in AA. I think it fires a larger round. The MEC could use the RPD or PKM(latter is already in game).

little_dster · Post by **little_dster** » 2005-07-16 17:44

id like to see an rpg with anti-personal rounds

TerribleOne · Post by **TerribleOne** » 2005-07-16 17:48

Its a game. More the better i think.

little_dster · Post by **little_dster** » 2005-07-16 17:51

look at the name of the mod project REALITY

not project put as many random guns in as we can cause its a game.

waffenbaum · Post by **waffenbaum** » 2005-07-16 18:00

"I totally wanna see dual desert eagels with sniper scopes and heat seeking bullets! And while we're at it, go ahead and add a gun that shoots mines like frisbees!"

TerribleOne · Post by **TerribleOne** » 2005-07-16 18:12

some of you really do talk sh*t. easy to pick out the kids.

yea its PR but its never gonna be reality is it. Its going to be a game, Somthing that lets you have fun. if you want perfect reality go join the army when your old enough.

waffenbaum · Post by **waffenbaum** » 2005-07-16 18:17

some of you really do talk sh*t. easy to pick out the kids.

Whatever you say buddy

CobraPhantom · Post by **CobraPhantom** » 2005-07-16 18:24

TerribleOne wrote:some of you really do talk sh*t. easy to pick out the kids.

yea its PR but its never gonna be reality is it. Its going to be a game, Somthing that lets you have fun. if you want perfect reality go join the army when your old enough.

There are a lot of 'kids' on this forum, Im not one of them, but Ive noticed a majority of them are pretty mature for their age.

Back on topic, I agree, the more weapons the better, just as long as they are all balanced. I think it would be neat, and realistic, to go into a middle eastern villa and find some old WWII weapons, like an SKS, thompson, ppsh, etc. Ive seen plenty of recent photos that showed even US soldiers using them. Not sure it if just for show, but it looked like they were serious.

waffenbaum · Post by **waffenbaum** » 2005-07-16 18:29

Getting ammo for those would be a serious problem though. Of course they would take them as souvenirs, but I can see a six pack of woop *** comming their way if they bring them to battle. I personally wouldn't trust my flank to a guy who would use a old rusty PPSH instead of his assigned rifle.

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-07-16 18:34

Ugly Duck wrote:Other weapons to include could be the M240(British GPMG), M60E3, MP5SD, and M40A3. We've already seen one new US gun, I forget the name but is similar(not the same) to the SPR in AA. I think it fires a larger round. The MEC could use the RPD or PKM(latter is already in game).

The model you've seen is the Mk-12 SPR; Navy SEALs use it too.

I believe they have a different optic and have a differently manufactured rail mount (Mk-12 Model 1 rather than Model 0), but have to check. Not sure if this will be adopted SOCOM wide.

The UK designation for the FN MAG GPMG (which the M240 series is also based on) is the L7A#.

M60E3 has been mostly phased out of service, but a few might be hanging around. The SEALs replaced theirs with the Mk-43 (M60E4), which is likely going to be phased out by the Mk-48 LMG. The M60 is still around in various forms, though, since not everyone has received M240s yet. It may make an appearance in the game.

CobraPhantom · Post by **CobraPhantom** » 2005-07-16 18:49

There we go, found the one I was looking for.

Yea gettin the ammo would be a *****, but you never know, they might have those stockpiled along with the weapon. Or make it a one-time use weapon. Just an idea for an easter egg

Tactical Advantage · Post by **Tactical Advantage** » 2005-07-16 19:37

Isnt that a PPSH 41 from WW2, we do alot off restorations on those where I work, but I'll try and compile a list of what I'd like to see, be back soon.

keyser Soeze.KIA. · Post by **keyser Soeze.KIA.** » 2005-07-16 21:13

Isnt that a PPSH 41 from WW2, we do alot off restorations on those where I work, but I'll try and compile a list of what I'd like to see, be back soon.

Yeah the russians used it alot.

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND OUR ALLIES

What about the rest of us, no bless

Tactical Advantage · Post by **Tactical Advantage** » 2005-07-16 22:16

keyser Soeze.KIA. wrote:Yeah the russians used it alot.

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND OUR ALLIES
What about the rest of us, no bless

You to, but I'd pressume most people here are American Allies.

keyser Soeze.KIA. · Post by **keyser Soeze.KIA.** » 2005-07-17 14:30

Dont think sweden is

I dont agree with all USA does i can tell you. USA are one of the biggest terrorist nations ever.

But hey lets not start a political discussion