Happy New Year and 2007 Roadmap Update for Project Reality
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PhiR
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I've been playing online games for 7 years now and I can say PR has the most dedicated dev team I've seen. Kudos to them all.
As for the player base, we've now reached the critical mass: it's possible to join a nearly full server at any time of the day. This was not the case a year ago when I first tried PR, and it makes all the difference to anyone who wants to try this mod.
As for the player base, we've now reached the critical mass: it's possible to join a nearly full server at any time of the day. This was not the case a year ago when I first tried PR, and it makes all the difference to anyone who wants to try this mod.
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LiquidSnake
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eggman
- Retired PR Developer
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at some point we'll remove the scoreboard visibility for personal scores.
2Slick is our HUD genius and he's been very busy and is wrapping up a major mod task. Hopefully he'll give some HUD love when his time frees up.
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wrt the ABR stuff.. again just some ideas.. we might not ever get around to is cuz it's not really that high a priority.
and we'd design it such that if the server is not running ABR the functions would simply be disabled.
But we'd probably encourage PR server to run ABR (as well as Punkbusted .. we need better guidelines for server admins imo).
Also keep in mind that ABR has some other really nice possibilities... we can deliver certain types of updates to ABR enabled PR servers without requiring a new server install.
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But the example kurtmax_0 gave as to why NOT to do it... is actually an example of why we SHOULD do it.
Why should a guy who has primarily played support in a suppressing fire role all of a sudden be given access to a sniper kit?
Yeah .. I get it.. it's a game.... but there are a couple of things that are relevant:
1. If you've not shown proficiency with a limited availability weapon system, you probably should not get access to that weapon system.
2. It helps retain players over the long term to give them areas of "specialization". Players might want to focus on each area and eventually become specialized in everything.
A better example is this:
You just spawned into Project Reality for the first time. You are a rare case who read a bit of the player guide first and know there are limited kits and how to access them.
An enemy tank comes rolling up. You sprint toward your parked tank, request the Crewman kit and jump into the tank. You have no clue of the different characteristics of armor in PR and trundle toward the enemy tank and get your team's last tank blown up.
The "PR Veteran" who happens to be one of the best tankers in the game, didn't quite make it to the tank in time before you drove off in it. He watches this happen and knows that it's the last friendly tank your team is going to see for a while.
That's annoying and, over the long haul, is not good for game play.
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And wrt what kind of stats we'd use to determine these things... it would probably be more like the "badges" system from BF2. Meaning you have to achieve something like a "basic rifleman" badge to get access to a marksman kit and a "basic marksman" badge to get access to a Sniper kit.
But again they are just ideas and low priority ones at that.
But I do hope we get the stats stuff integrated nicely into the website and use ABR as a stats tracking tool at the very least.
I really, really, really, really HATE what the ranking system did to the player base in BF2 so we'll be pretty cautious about changes there.
Stuff like removing access to personal scores inside the game would be a precursor to making those scores more meaningful (sounds a bit backwards, but hopefully you get what I mean).
2Slick is our HUD genius and he's been very busy and is wrapping up a major mod task. Hopefully he'll give some HUD love when his time frees up.
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wrt the ABR stuff.. again just some ideas.. we might not ever get around to is cuz it's not really that high a priority.
and we'd design it such that if the server is not running ABR the functions would simply be disabled.
But we'd probably encourage PR server to run ABR (as well as Punkbusted .. we need better guidelines for server admins imo).
Also keep in mind that ABR has some other really nice possibilities... we can deliver certain types of updates to ABR enabled PR servers without requiring a new server install.
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But the example kurtmax_0 gave as to why NOT to do it... is actually an example of why we SHOULD do it.
Why should a guy who has primarily played support in a suppressing fire role all of a sudden be given access to a sniper kit?
Yeah .. I get it.. it's a game.... but there are a couple of things that are relevant:
1. If you've not shown proficiency with a limited availability weapon system, you probably should not get access to that weapon system.
2. It helps retain players over the long term to give them areas of "specialization". Players might want to focus on each area and eventually become specialized in everything.
A better example is this:
You just spawned into Project Reality for the first time. You are a rare case who read a bit of the player guide first and know there are limited kits and how to access them.
An enemy tank comes rolling up. You sprint toward your parked tank, request the Crewman kit and jump into the tank. You have no clue of the different characteristics of armor in PR and trundle toward the enemy tank and get your team's last tank blown up.
The "PR Veteran" who happens to be one of the best tankers in the game, didn't quite make it to the tank in time before you drove off in it. He watches this happen and knows that it's the last friendly tank your team is going to see for a while.
That's annoying and, over the long haul, is not good for game play.
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And wrt what kind of stats we'd use to determine these things... it would probably be more like the "badges" system from BF2. Meaning you have to achieve something like a "basic rifleman" badge to get access to a marksman kit and a "basic marksman" badge to get access to a Sniper kit.
But again they are just ideas and low priority ones at that.
But I do hope we get the stats stuff integrated nicely into the website and use ABR as a stats tracking tool at the very least.
I really, really, really, really HATE what the ranking system did to the player base in BF2 so we'll be pretty cautious about changes there.
Stuff like removing access to personal scores inside the game would be a precursor to making those scores more meaningful (sounds a bit backwards, but hopefully you get what I mean).
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DivS-konti
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A happy new year too!'[R-DEV wrote:eggman']Hey Folks,
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year from all of us at the Project Reality team. We'd like to say a HUGE thanks to all of you for your support of Project Reality over the last year.
Nice'[R-DEV wrote:eggman']Alternative Game Modes
GREAT!!!'[R-DEV wrote:eggman']In addition we will (finally) introduce our highly flexible Objective mode that we've been calling "Scenario". And focus on developing content for that game mode as well. Scenario mode is a game mode that allows for a mix of defend and destroy missions against a variety of targets as well as mixing in objectives to secure areas of a map.
Sounds great too.'[R-DEV wrote:eggman']Alternative Battlefield Ranking
We're going to do some more stuff around the ranking & stats system. We will NOT be introducing any sort of "whore points for weapon unlocks" concept. However we will evaluate how we can integrate more of the ABR capabilities into the game world and the realitymod.com website.
'[R-DEV wrote:eggman']Dynamic Battlefield
float like a butterfly - sting like a bee 
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G.Drew
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PB&J time!'[R-DEV wrote:duckhunt']Thank you everyone for playing PR
Like egg says the next few releases will include features that will give players much more responsiblilty for the sucess of the team than there currently is.
u can always count on us to play ur games!


[R-COM]BloodBane611: I do like the old school rape...However, it's a bit awkward to be a white boy blasting the old school in public....
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Wasteland
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If you're saying what I hope you're saying, I'd be very happy. Will there be DMRs and bolt action sniper rifles available on the same map now?'[R-DEV wrote:eggman']Meaning you have to achieve something like a "basic rifleman" badge to get access to a marksman kit and a "basic marksman" badge to get access to a Sniper kit.
Because when played properly, a DM and sniper should have completely different roles, and should probably coexist on the same map.
Originally Posted by: ArmedDrunk&Angry
we don't live in your fantastical world where you are the super hero sent to release us all from the bondage of ignorance
Originally Posted by: [R-MOD]dunehunter
don't mess with wasteland, a scary guy will drag you into an alleyway and rape you with a baseballbat
we don't live in your fantastical world where you are the super hero sent to release us all from the bondage of ignorance
Originally Posted by: [R-MOD]dunehunter
don't mess with wasteland, a scary guy will drag you into an alleyway and rape you with a baseballbat
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eggman
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Howlin' Jack
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.5 and AlBasrah
Will the lag issues and stability of Albasrah be addressed in the next release?
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LiquidSnake
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Habe den Text noch weitgehnd für deutschsprachige übersetzt
Transalation: I translated this text for people who speak german ^^
http://www.frag4fun.com/portal/bf2-late ... ality.html
Transalation: I translated this text for people who speak german ^^
http://www.frag4fun.com/portal/bf2-late ... ality.html

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Rhino
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luizinhuu
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ur a genius rhino!'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino']yes all map lag issues that im aware of like basrah have been fixed. we have had all the testers playing fine with good FPS now, only took me a whole night to fix it![]()
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and may i ask, is Hamyong nice on the framerate now? coz i get 35fps at muttrah and 18 on hamyong.
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Rhino
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yes HoH has also been fixed. We made a "overgrowth" rice fileds to replace the "undergrwoth" rice fields where there before. the map had like a 300m undergrwoth draw distance, and we all know how much that effects performance, so we have manged to get the rice field to draw for a very long distance, without causing any lagluizinhuu wrote:ur a genius rhino!ops:
and may i ask, is Hamyong nice on the framerate now? coz i get 35fps at muttrah and 18 on hamyong.even lowering down all to low it stays at 20fps, it's poorly optimized i think
thou the rice fields we have at the mo look like they are growing on a uranium dump hehe



