Shotguns

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-01-04 16:55

Asif i thoguht every one knew that :O
Im so special

lmao

{XG} non_compliance · Post by **{XG} non_compliance** » 2007-01-04 17:22

I didn't think of using it for the shottie, but I've been doing that with the US light AT for weeks.... Usually, I just go for the heavy AT though.

UKARMYCADET · Post by **UKARMYCADET** » 2007-01-04 17:46

robbo wrote:Asif i thoguht every one knew that :O
Im so special lmao

The excitement of being special must of hindered your spelling and punctuation Mr Robinson. He he

Darkpowder · Post by **Darkpowder** » 2007-01-04 22:43

BeastGraphix wrote:hehe old cs throw back...dry erase marker on your screen. god i hate my friends that do that.

I hate those who even mention that cheat, because you know some idiot will try it.

Firing from the hip is simple in PR, its the reason why a lot of players seem to come round the corner and kill you before you can even blink.

Its easy with the shotgun too. If you dont believe me, just watch
[PR]RFAD|Squidy in action with one some day soon. He's an absolute killer with it.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 2007-01-05 11:41

ban everyone here for exploiting

i hate the rocket launcher hip firing it with pinpoint accracey is just wrong.

every one here losses 10 kudos points
exept for mongol who loses 30 points.

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-01-05 16:06

Pfft thunder i bet you use it more than all of us put together lol

Post by **Mongolian_dude** » 2007-01-05 16:12

{XG} non_compliance wrote:I didn't think of using it for the shottie, but I've been doing that with the US light AT for weeks.... Usually, I just go for the heavy AT though.

robbo wrote:I do it by holding Q and using one of the letters as a crosshair.
Any one seen dirtysanchez were the guy goes to czech rep puts on body armour and takes a shot from like 5 meters to the cheast hes still standing and after a couple of minutes a massive bruise appears so if an idiot like him can do it a trained soldier will have an easy time...

YOU BAST4ARDZ!!!!!
I was the best AT in the west! Know you've taken my fame and fortune!

...mongol...

DETROIT MADDOG · Post by **DETROIT MADDOG** » 2007-01-05 21:55

you know what i would like to see for the shotgun.......i would like to see iron sights or something of that nature on the benilli would be sweet to pick your target with those ghost rings you see on the gun but cant use or maybe the aimpoint ?? just a thought thats all.

Sneak Attack · Post by **Sneak Attack** » 2007-02-28 07:04

Main advantages of shotguns are their versatility and short-range firepower. Shotguns can fire multiple projectiles of various sizes, creating a lethal pattern, which will increase chances of hitting target, or single large projectile, powerful enough to drop down a large brown bear, or incapacitate a human being protected in all of the heaviest body armor. Shotguns also can fire special purpose ammunition, such as door buster slugs, and even a high explosive and incendiary rounds, as well as the less lethal ammunition, useful for riot control and other police operations. Most, if not all modern combat shotguns are magazine fed repeaters, with the underbarrel tubular magazines being the most common type. Those magazines offer a sleek, slim profile of the gun, but are slow to reload. Some recently developed combat shotguns featured a detachable, box-type magazines, which can be replaced very quickly. Few combat shotguns were developed with rotary, revolver-like magazines or drum-type magazines of relatively large capacity (10-12, and up to 28 rounds), but those magazines are extremely bulky, heavy, expensive and sometimes slow to reload.

The disadvantages of the combat shotguns are the limited effective range of fire (about 50-70 meters with standard buckshot, up to 100-150 meters with slug loadings). Shotguns also are sometimes relatively large (especially when compared to modern submachine guns), and can have a heavy recoil with the most powerful loadings. The size and weight of the shotgun ammunition effectively limits both the magazine capacity and the amount of ammunition a soldier can carry in the mission.

after you read that and use a shotgun in PR you will realize they are hugly underpowered.

Lucid Nightmare · Post by **Lucid Nightmare** » 2007-02-28 07:40

Yeah, I'd love less spread on my shotgun, but I would always just pass it off as a balancing issue. I'd still like to see their damage upped though.....

Post by **Hitperson** » 2007-02-28 08:32

lol a this

slug shot should be one shot kill even on body armour

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot16_4.htm

previos page as well

Sneak Attack · Post by **Sneak Attack** » 2007-03-01 01:03

that dent in the clay, translate that into dent in the chest and you will have broken ribs and bruised innards. not to mention those are hunting rounds, like for deer, which do not wear armor, and i stated that a normal unjacketed slug wont go through armor but will still fuck you up

the military uses jacketed rounds, which will go through armor without a problem . especially if the slug has a steel core. and i know that pretty much no buckshot (except those flechette ones) will penetrate armor but it will still put you on the floor, and break your bones.

there are many stories of insurgents not giving respect when they hear a 5.56mm round fired off but when the 12gauge shotgun goes off they hunker down and expect the worse. if shotguns sucked then such respect wouldnt be givin.
in PR the shotgun has no respect, which makes no sense

SethLive! · Post by **SethLive!** » 2007-03-01 05:25

Like it or not the shotguns suck as of now

I would not really care that much except that very few people choose engi now. I would love to see the shotguns improved but if it is too unrealistic then just give them back their assault rifles. Engineers are almost defenceless right now.

Deadmonkiefart · Post by **Deadmonkiefart** » 2007-03-01 06:33

At the moment I would rather have a pistol than a shotgun. Both the slugs and the scatter shot need to do more damage and be more accurate. The scatter shot also needs to have its spread tightened up. Even civillian shotguns do not have that much spread.

suburban · Post by **suburban** » 2007-03-01 08:56

I hope they are listening...

Jonathan_Archer_nx01 · Post by **Jonathan_Archer_nx01** » 2007-03-01 15:13

If slug is 1 shot-kill, then it shouldn't be extremely accurate, It would become sniper rifle at distance.

Sneak Attack · Post by **Sneak Attack** » 2007-03-02 02:21

well, if you have ever used the shotgun ingame you will see the slug drops a ton at range (which is how is should be) so whoever can snipe with it at range with the drop is pretty damn good and deserves to be able to do it. iv got a few lucky shots off from along way away but it is rare to get a super far shotty kill.

Deadmonkiefart · Post by **Deadmonkiefart** » 2007-03-02 02:44

suburban wrote:I hope they are listening...

I have always wondered if they really do read ALL the posts.....

Sneak Attack · Post by **Sneak Attack** » 2007-03-03 21:25

i sure hopeso, after prone madness this comes next on list of, Super Gay Things That Need to be Fixed (SGT²NTBF)

Solitas · Post by **Solitas** » 2007-03-03 21:58

The devs read all the posts, but they have a grudge against you (yes you there!). As such they simply print them off, piss on them, use them as toilet paper, and proceed to attach them to a dartboard

But yes the shotguns are underpowered, maybe they'll get beefed up, maybe it will take a while. Keep in mind, assuming the devs did read EVERYTHING they still have to assess whats right for the mod, whats doable, and what priority it should take. Personally I always appreciated the fact they are willing to accept suggestions, if they implemented one I was even more grateful

Shotguns

Shotgun Madness!!!!