Eurofighter Typhoon?

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-01-07 21:11

I was looking through the Media forum and noticed their was no Eurofighter their.
Is the Eurofighter going to be in the Mod? if not cant you just borrow the one from POE2

Because the eurofighter is probably one of the best if not the best Fighter in solid service today (Also probably most expensive lol). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykPWB4hONso

Post by **eggman** » 2007-01-07 21:27

The Eurofighter will be used as a land based air superiority fighter for the British when there are appropriate maps and equipment for Brits.

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-01-07 21:31

YEY Thanks Egg

Figisaacnewton · Post by **Figisaacnewton** » 2007-01-07 22:21

robbo wrote:Because the eurofighter is probably one of the best if not the best Fighter in solid service today

I just have to pick a fight and say F-22 wins hands down. Sorry.

Anyways, my guess is itll be in in like .6 or .7 ish.

Post by **Duke** » 2007-01-07 22:26

yeah, you devs will have to seriously tweak it.

When flying the vBF2 model its the easiest thing to dodge missiles in ever. They go right through the engines and out the other side!

-=ToD=-KNIFE · Post by **-=ToD=-KNIFE** » 2007-01-08 08:39

F22 Hand down? hahaha anyways the Typhoon ive seen in other Mods has been Modeled very Poorly and dosnt look like a True Typhoon looks like someone came and tryd to make a Copy without breaking Copyright, Too bad we cant get the Tornado F3 cause the Typhoon still isnt in Full Service and yes i know the F3 is out of Service.

Downtown_two · Post by **Downtown_two** » 2007-01-08 10:46

Figisaacnewton wrote:F-22 wins hands down. Sorry.

*Bites tongue*

mammikoura · Post by **mammikoura** » 2007-01-08 12:53

Figisaacnewton wrote:I just have to pick a fight and say F-22 wins hands down. Sorry.

Yeah the F-22 is so sweet!

DirtyHarry88 · Post by **DirtyHarry88** » 2007-01-08 13:09

-=ToD=-KNIFE wrote:F22 Hand down? hahaha anyways the Typhoon ive seen in other Mods has been Modeled very Poorly and dosnt look like a True Typhoon looks like someone came and tryd to make a Copy without breaking Copyright, Too bad we cant get the Tornado F3 cause the Typhoon still isnt in Full Service and yes i know the F3 is out of Service.

F3 is still in service.

There are some squadrons of the Eurofighter but there are still F3's as they're gradually getting phased out.

IAJTHOMAS · Post by **IAJTHOMAS** » 2007-01-08 14:24

Figisaacnewton wrote:I just have to pick a fight and say F-22 wins hands down. Sorry.

DERA agrees with you, EF is the 2nd best fighter according to their study.

dunkellic · Post by **dunkellic** » 2007-01-08 14:51

my guess that in dogfight the f22 will win because of thrust vectoring (taking aside the pilots skills) and in bvr-combat because of the superior cloaking technologies

DERA agrees with you, EF is the 2nd best fighter according to their study.

link + does that study incooperate the f-35 already?

IAJTHOMAS · Post by **IAJTHOMAS** » 2007-01-08 15:15

Its an older study, not meant to be official as its a speculative simulation based one. Didn't include f-35. Can't find an official link because DERA's been split up in to different agencies now. Wiki's the best I could do:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison ... DERA_study

Downtown_two · Post by **Downtown_two** » 2007-01-08 15:15

F35 isn't in service yet so probably not. We get 150 of those in 2014, which will be housed at Lossiemouth. Squadron conversion begins 2016 and it'll be operational in 2017.

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2007-01-08 17:50

dunkellic wrote:my guess that in dogfight the f22 will win because of thrust vectoring (taking aside the pilots skills) and in bvr-combat because of the superior cloaking technologies

However there are already plans to incorperate 3D thrust Vectoring in to the Eurofighter, tech is full on into developement, just a quesiton as to whether the countries airforces wnat it.

With that, the whole dogfight senario becomes much more even, but til then F22 2D TV gives it the upper hand.

Any chance of a new missile system:

1) Longrange radar guided missiles - require the pilot to keep the circle around the target to ensure a hit. This reflect the fact, a radar lock is required (in RL the missile will ahve radar but that fire and forget and long range is boring/no skill ext.). Flares would not work becuase guidance is totaly radar. It would require a medium level of skill to keep the circle around the enemy jet which would be many 100'sm away, possilby even 1Km.

2) Short range IR guided missiles - requrie pilot to keep circle (remain lock) for short period and then the missile is totaly fire and forget. This reflects real modern missiles more but do to the short range nature the other pilot has a good chance of out manouvouring the missile, therefore it would be a pretty balanced system, require certain level of skill to use and then certian level of skill to dodge. Flare would also aid pilots in avoiding these missile because they work on IR tracking.

This makes air to air combat much more interesting, ebcuase the pilot has to know what type of missile to use AND how to operate each type.
IF you used the shortrange missile at too long a range, it would not hit the target BUT if you used a longrange missile at too short a distance it would be unable to turn fast enough or the pilot would be unable to keep a lock.

IS IT POSSIBLE???????

dunkellic · Post by **dunkellic** » 2007-01-08 17:57

btw, currently the typhoon has more modern missiles (afaik) but the americans already plan to upgrade theirs which would then shift the advantage back to the f22 - still, in bvr the f22 would win

DirtyHarry88 · Post by **DirtyHarry88** » 2007-01-08 17:58

Goodness knows how long it has been since the last dogfight, thurst vectoring will most likely not even be needed anyway.

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2007-01-08 18:14

DirtyHarry88 wrote:Goodness knows how long it has been since the last dogfight, thurst vectoring will most likely not even be needed anyway.

LOL. Not entirely true. The 3rd Generation fighters negleted manovourability (e.g Phantom) and focusd on intercepting role and all round attack capability. Vietnam proved However they could not entirely rely on long range radar missiles to destroy aircraft before they got close becuase of low chance of hitting at long range. MIssile tech is on the up, though but....

4th Gen and 4.5 Gen and early 5th Gen have placed much more focus on manvourability (e.g F-16, Eurofighter, F-22, Griffan - love that bird you get bang for you buck!!) using features such as being inherently unstable and canards and more recently thrust vectoring.

At the hart of dog fighting is manvourabilty and no plane can ever have enough of that so...........you ever seen a UFO, trust me you wnat thrust vectoring and every other blody feature you can have, poor old F-16s, they never had a chance!

BEing able to turn faster at MAch 1/1.5/2 (high speeds) means you might just have to enlarge the area over which you consider to be a dogfight Dirty HArry!

BUT PLEASE READ ORGINAL SUGGESTION ABOVE a couple of posts - been repeats but.!

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 2007-01-08 19:03

dog fighting died with vietnam. the most pilots see of they enermy is the explosion of his jet in the distance.

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2007-01-08 19:06

Did you even read the above ?

*cough* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_generation_jet_fighter *cough*

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 2007-01-08 19:45

any smuck with a keyboard can write a wiki arctial.

not even the commanders now know where aircombat will go. as every threat imageded has consisted of the russian airforce.

these could vary well be the last generation of pure fighters