five oh wip screen, new APC hud example

Clypp · Post by **Clypp** » 2007-01-14 02:53

GeZe wrote:okay, I see now. I completely missed that post. someone should compile an unofficial changelog like for .4

Yeah. However I missed a bunch of stuff on that one. I thought about trying again with this release but at that time I thought the release was just around the corner and not worth the effort.

You can give it a shot though GeZe. Just click eggman's name and hit "see all eggman's posts". Compile, edit, add, remove.

V3N0N_br · Post by **V3N0N_br** » 2007-01-14 02:55

I think I'm a bit late in this topic but...
It just looks awesome. Like egg said, small detail that makes it much prettier and realsitic as well.

Same thing about the kits too.

Post by **GeZe** » 2007-01-14 02:55

well, the release is around the corner so I'll just wait. maybe for the .6 release I'll do it

Post by **eggman** » 2007-01-14 06:56

Here's an updated M1A2 hud:

And the real thing:

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2007-01-14 08:39

Brilliant, but why the colour now?

REPEAT of early question: any chance of a basic stablizer that if you hold a key for example the gun remains stable on the vertical axis but can be turned like normal alone the horizontal axis.
And this only happens when you hold the key down, designed for short use mainly.

This feature would add so much to PR tank gameplay, both physically in terms of gunning and phcological in terms of that the tank does actualy have a computer asisting you to aim like in real life - far from the complex system in RL but enough to make it feel so much more imersing, the tank becoming truely the mighty beast!

Post by **eggman** » 2007-01-14 09:09

Top _Cat the great wrote:Brilliant, but why the colour now?

first one posted was an APC HUD. The footage we've been able to locate of APC combat typically has them with a black and white thermal imager.

The pic above is of an M1A2 HUD and the real thing, obtained for us by a tank creqwman serving in thbe US military.

Top _Cat the great wrote: REPEAT of early question: any chance of a basic stablizer that if you hold a key for example the gun remains stable on the vertical axis but can be turned like normal alone the horizontal axis.
And this only happens when you hold the key down, designed for short use mainly.

This feature would add so much to PR tank gameplay, both physically in terms of gunning and phcological in terms of that the tank does actualy have a computer asisting you to aim like in real life - far from the complex system in RL but enough to make it feel so much more imersing, the tank becoming truely the mighty beast!

Tanks should be beasts in v0.5. But so should the attack helicopters heh. Will have to see how it goes

wrt the stabiliser thing... not aware of a way to do that, but will think on it.

Rusty_FunP · Post by **Rusty_FunP** » 2007-01-14 09:28

Mekstizzle wrote: One thing i noticed in 0.4 is that you can switch from HEAT to AP rounds instantly in APC's. I'm no APC Gunner in real life, but i'm sure there's gotta be some sort of delay from when switching ammo type. Like how it is in MBT's.

At least the autocannon in bradley fires from two different belts which can be changed (afaik) with just a flick of a switch. And i think the engineers have streamlined every autocannon operation with multiple ammunition types to be as fast as possible.

Mekstizzle · Post by **Mekstizzle** » 2007-01-14 12:00

Rusty_FunP wrote:At least the autocannon in bradley fires from two different belts which can be changed (afaik) with just a flick of a switch. And i think the engineers have streamlined every autocannon operation with multiple ammunition types to be as fast as possible.

Pretty cool. I thought it would be something like that. Instead of some goon having to manually change the belt.

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I'm liking the M1A2 HUD. I find it amazing that you guys can actually get real tankers to get you images of real life Tank HUD things.

One question, you got the M1A2, but what about the T90/Type 99?

Guerra norte · Post by **Guerra norte** » 2007-01-14 12:44

How is the reticles on scoped rifles and missile/rocket launchers coming along?

huleboeren · Post by **huleboeren** » 2007-01-14 15:46

Is it possible to add a reloading bar to the hud?
I know it may not have that in real life - but since you cant see the 'reloader' reload the cannon, I thought it would be nice to simulate somehow :/

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-01-14 16:01

Top _Cat the great wrote:Brilliant, but why the colour now?

Think of all the TK!!! If people are blaming TKs on "oh, sorry, you looked like a MEC", think about it without colour, some people are already colour blind.

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2007-01-14 17:29

0.5 related question, not really but ....

Been asked before, cant remebr answer, screw you, searching almost impossible: When you are shot, your character is sent prone - is this possible?????

Just a simple yes or no from a DEV would be cool, sparing me the hardcoded repsonce!

luizinhuu · Post by **luizinhuu** » 2007-01-14 17:56

yeah the black and white stuff could be a pain in the *** about the teamkilling

Animalmother · Post by **Animalmother** » 2007-01-14 18:16

Very nice, looks like we'll have some real mechanized infantry action. And its about time the abrams crosshair went red! Awesome job, this mod went way beyond my expectations of what was even possible with BF2. Any word on an M113 though?

Post by **eggman** » 2007-01-14 19:10

Type 99 / T90 reticule & HUD references hard to come by. If anyone can source some good refs there that would be a huge help.

Handheld weapons work a lil differently and are more time consuming to correct, but we do intend to correct them all to an accurate state over time.

there's a "round status" indicator in the HUD, shows 0 when no round loaded and 1 when there is a round up.

the APCs remain black and white. They have zoom on them so should help identify players. Need to be careful tho.

HE and AP weapons have been much more differentiated, so slamming a building with HE should have a much more obvious difference between AP and HE.

not possible to force prone on being shot afaik.

wrt an M113 .. er.. don't think that's really much more than a tracked coffin nowadays isn't it hehe? Not in the current plans for vehicle additions.

Post by **GeZe** » 2007-01-14 19:32

Well, since the T-90 is based on the T-72, I would think they would have the same gunners view.

This is a pic I got from some sort of sim game of the T-72 gunners view:

Of course, the things such as the compass etc are not part of the actual hud.

Mekstizzle · Post by **Mekstizzle** » 2007-01-14 19:44

Oh yeah, USI had one of THE best ever T-72 HUDS, ever. I know you guys have already taken alot of stuff from USI already but i'm sure you could make it up to them.

You could probably just "modernise" the USI T-72 Hud so that it would look like what a T90 one might look like?

luizinhuu · Post by **luizinhuu** » 2007-01-14 21:30

ANOTHER QUICK NOTE:
is the aiming of the american SMAW corrected? was in the server right now and it is a ***** that deviaton to the left when you shoot the missile

Post by **GeZe** » 2007-01-14 21:49

luizinhuu wrote:ANOTHER QUICK NOTE:
is the aiming of the American SMAW corrected? was in the server right now and it is a ***** that deviation to the left when you shoot the missile

just press Q to aim, the comm circle is always in the middle of the screen