H-60 improvements

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-07-28 03:26

isnt there a plane that can carry the abrams? 1 at a time though?

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-07-28 03:34

BrokenArrow wrote:isnt there a plane that can carry the abrams? 1 at a time though?

The C-17 and even the C-5 Galaxy can only carry one each. They're monstrous vehicles. This is why the light units wanted the XM8 Armored Gun System. Instead, they got the Stryker MGS, which may or may not ever see the field.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-07-28 03:37

haha eddie, ive said this before and its worth repeating, youre a machine. its good that PR nabbed you before any other mod could.

Tacamo · Post by **Tacamo** » 2005-07-28 03:43

Argh Styker MGS, they should have went with the M8 a much better replacement for the M551 Sheridan.

GABBA · Post by **GABBA** » 2005-07-28 08:36

I just want a chopper that can carry a whole squad in and out of a battle.

waffenbaum · Post by **waffenbaum** » 2005-07-28 10:41

*cough* Chinook *cough*

GABBA · Post by **GABBA** » 2005-07-28 13:32

That there is the solution to ALL our problem's.

Super6 · Post by **Super6** » 2005-07-28 16:00

back to the subject, can we have helos that carry any cargo?

TJYoung80234 · Post by **TJYoung80234** » 2005-08-03 21:37

PLEASE for the love of everything holy... remove the Blackhawk! I beg of you! Take what these guys are saying to heart. The Marines do NOT use Blackhawks. They use Sea Hawks and Sea Stallions. I would love to see this fixed. As I've said so many other places... the damn developer of this game screwed the pooch and created a Hollywood Army/Marine hybrid game... then stamped the Marines name on it.

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-08-04 05:53

TJYoung80234 wrote:PLEASE for the love of everything holy... remove the Blackhawk! I beg of you! Take what these guys are saying to heart. The Marines do NOT use Blackhawks. They use Sea Hawks and Sea Stallions. I would love to see this fixed. As I've said so many other places... the damn developer of this game screwed the pooch and created a Hollywood Army/Marine hybrid game... then stamped the Marines name on it.

The only H-60 variant used by the Marines is the VH-60N, used for transporting the President, VP and visiting heads of state.

TJYoung80234 · Post by **TJYoung80234** » 2005-08-04 14:59

[R-DEV wrote:Eddie Baker]
TJYoung80234 wrote:PLEASE for the love of everything holy... remove the Blackhawk! I beg of you! Take what these guys are saying to heart. The Marines do NOT use Blackhawks. They use Sea Hawks and Sea Stallions. I would love to see this fixed. As I've said so many other places... the damn developer of this game screwed the pooch and created a Hollywood Army/Marine hybrid game... then stamped the Marines name on it.
The only H-60 variant used by the Marines is the VH-60N, used for transporting the President, VP and visiting heads of state.

That would be correct.

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-08-04 18:26

TJYoung80234 wrote:
[R-DEV wrote:Eddie Baker]
TJYoung80234 wrote:PLEASE for the love of everything holy... remove the Blackhawk! I beg of you! Take what these guys are saying to heart. The Marines do NOT use Blackhawks. They use Sea Hawks and Sea Stallions. I would love to see this fixed. As I've said so many other places... the damn developer of this game screwed the pooch and created a Hollywood Army/Marine hybrid game... then stamped the Marines name on it.
The only H-60 variant used by the Marines is the VH-60N, used for transporting the President, VP and visiting heads of state.
That would be correct.

But you said they used Sea Hawks? Did you mean hitching a ride on Navy aircraft, or did you mean to type "Sea Knight?"

TJYoung80234 · Post by **TJYoung80234** » 2005-08-04 21:26

I didn't mean, correct... lol. Incorrect. Hehe... they do use Sea Hawks... but not in the capacity as some of the other helicopters which I'll post below. But, it's used (more specifically in training) more so than the Blackhawk.

The Sea Knight, and Sea Stallion are your best bet yes... but Sea Hawks were not uncommon sight in the fleet (especially Navy choppers during a MEU deployment).

The choppers you'd want to look at:

CH-46
CH-53
AH-1W
UH-1N

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-08-05 02:55

Oh, I thought you were saying that Marines had Seahawks of their own, which was really puzzling.

Super6 wrote:back to the subject, can we have helos that carry any cargo?

Yes, we can, and I think that having them perform resupplies is a good idea. As for vehicles, the Chinook and H-53 series can carry some types internally.

The Zodiac CRRC (Combat Rubber Reconnaissance Craft or Combat Rubber Raiding Craft) can be carried internally and deployed from the ramp with combat swimmers in a "low and slow" helocast. This photo is courtesy of an active duty Pave Low flight engineer

The CRRC can also be paradropped or helocast from suitably equipped H-60 helicopters (Navy SH-60F and HH-60H Seahawks and possibly Army and Air Force special operations Blackhawks and Pavehawks) using what is known as a "tethered duck" configuration.

The H-53 is capable of internally transporting the Chenowth Light Strike Vehicle (USN Special Warfare calls it the DPV and Army and USMC call it the FAV), USMC Interim Fast Attack Vehicle (Mercedes-Benz MB290 GT "G-Wagon") and the Army Special Forces Toyota Tacoma / Hilux Non-Standard Commercial Vehicle (NSCV).

(Photo courtesy of Pavespawn)

And of course, the Chinook can internally transport the Land Rover 110 WMIK / Ranger Special Operations Vehicle.

Since the Chinook is used by both the RAF and the US Army, we would definitely like to include it.

Tacamo · Post by **Tacamo** » 2005-08-05 14:47

Eddie how is Pavespawn doing? Haven't heard anything out of him since a long time ago on the original DCF.

TerribleOne · Post by **TerribleOne** » 2005-08-05 18:02

hah i love the second to last pic where they are loading the rover 110. them guys are prone and look alert guarding on a carrier and then you got the guy in the yellow top-signaller? or whatever. Hes like "ughh what are you guys doing??"

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2005-08-05 18:13

Tacamo wrote:Eddie how is Pavespawn doing? Haven't heard anything out of him since a long time ago on the original DCF.

I talked to him a couple of months ago asking about weapons capabilities and he was doing okay. No posts from him anywhere I've seen, though, so he may be deployed again.

TerribleOne wrote:hah i love the second to last pic where they are loading the rover 110. them guys are prone and look alert guarding on a carrier and then you got the guy in the yellow top-signaller? or whatever. Hes like "ughh what are you guys doing??"

I believe he's signaling the Chinook crew. What he's telling them, I haven't a clue.

As for the Royal Marines, there, it looks like they are drilling for an extraction, and are assuming the positions they would under combat conditions. .

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-08-05 23:57

yes, its either a drill or a squad gone totally insane.