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General discussion of the Project Reality: BF2 modification.
Desertfox
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Post by Desertfox »

If you guys are having real problems. Turn down the dynamic those things will just eat up your FPS
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SiN|ScarFace
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Post by SiN|ScarFace »

Turning off the page file does not increase performance, its a backup when there is insufficient ram. If you have enough ram you wont use the page file hardly at all but like someone said, if you run out of ram for some reason and the page file is turned off your system will crash.

The guy who said he should be able to run higher settings, I disagree because that 2.4 CPU is weak sauce and medium settings are where you should be at.
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Post by MadTommy »

'[R-PUB wrote:Demio']When you have 2GB of RAM it's safe to turn off the swap file :)
Sweet, i'll be trying this as soon as. Thanks.
SiN|ScarFace wrote:Turning off the page file does not increase performance, its a backup when there is insufficient ram. If you have enough ram you wont use the page file hardly at all but like someone said, if you run out of ram for some reason and the page file is turned off your system will crash.
I'm no expert, but from what i know, if you have the page file turned off windows will not need to check it etc as it always does.
Even if the page file is not needed, it will be ready, windows will be using resources to maintain it. And being so important (memory) releasing the page file should release useful resources.

But yes if memory requirements exceed my 2GB i'm fooked. Will test

Ta Demio
SiN|ScarFace
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Post by SiN|ScarFace »

If you must have that small amount of increased performance turn it off, but I doubt you will notice the difference esp when you have say 2GB of ram.
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Post by MadTommy »

SiN|ScarFace wrote:If you must have that small amount of increased performance turn it off, but I doubt you will notice the difference esp when you have say 2GB of ram.
I do have an alternative motive... I've always hated the windows swap file, always.
To be able to run windows on RAM only has been a very mini dream of mine since windows 95.
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Post by Jimmy_Smack »

My comp is currently being fixed and I have not yet played PR(and im probably gonna shoot myself if i dont get to soon :-| jk) and I was wondering how 1 gig of ram a dual core AMD and a nVidia 7600GT will run it with med-high settings with 1024@768.
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Post by NYgurkha »

one of my RAM sticks died on me and i had to go with only 1 gig for a while. I wanted to gouge my eyes out every time i tried to play nay games, becasue i had to reduce every thing to LOW. Now with 2 gigs got PRMM running at 60~40 FPS at high with lighting and AA turned off.

Specs:
Pentium D 3.0ghz
2gig ram
ATI X800XT 512mb
500gig HD
Wipeout
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Post by Wipeout »

'[R-PUB wrote:Demio']Just a quick heads-up. If you are having performance problems with PR, buy more RAM.

I had 1GB and I couldn't play Al Basrah AT ALL. Now I have 2GB and it plays smoothly on the same settings...

;)

P.S.: It will also help if you turn off the swap file :P
I've got 1GB of RAM, and a pretty shastty system, and I run Al Basrah fine. Obviously uber low settings *medium textures, medium terrain everything else low or off* *85% view*

If you have under 1GB of RAM you'll probably hiccup like hell.
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Post by lunchbox311 »

Wipeout wrote:*85% view*

That is bad man, jack it to 100% it should not be that much more strain and you will love seeing things farther away.
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bigbossmatt
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Post by bigbossmatt »

Please elaborate on what a swap file is and particularly on how I can change its settings.

I have 2gb corsair ddr400, amd 64 3700 @2.2, xfx 7600GT 256mb pcie...
I would guess I could try turing it off, but how?
Randleman5102
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Post by Randleman5102 »

Lol I have 512 and I can run Al Basrah semi smoothly




That is, for 5 minutes.
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Post by Randleman5102 »

Double post ...sry

P.S. How much RAM cost nowadays?
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Post by A-10Warthog »

i have 4 gigs of ram a 2T hard drive quadcore processor oh yea and DUAL nvidia geforce 8800s YEAH BABY
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Outlaw289
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Post by Outlaw289 »

I have a 6800GT, 3.2 ghz HT Intel processor, and 2 gigs of Kingston RAM

Al basrah lags like hell. It eventually eats up 3.2 gigs of pagefile ram and then crashes, and Windows continues to use all that pagefile until I restart.

I play @ all high settings, 4xAA, and at 1024x768@75hz (I can do 1280x960 but 1024x768 ensures a stable framerate) in regular BF2 and 2142 maps, but Al'Basra just kills my computer.

I guess putting terrain and textures on medium/low would help? I would assume terrain more than textures, as Basra is an ungodly huge map (you might as well just name this map "All of Iraq" [/exaggeration])
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Post by wasserfaller »

i've got 512 and i have a custom setup with most of the setting on high, but 2 or 3 of them on medium. 256 ATI 9700pro, all of the maps run perfectly fine and the detail is really crisp. My machine hasn't been updated in 5 years, maybe there are other factors that contribute to lag a bit more?
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Post by Guardian[]B()b »

There was a sticky that pointed to the tweakguides as well as a lot of other tips. With the influx of new players perhaps a MOD can put it up again.

As stated the http://www.tweakguides.com/BF2_3.html should be followed.
After following those guides my performance improved and rarely had CTD.

I'm stuck with very very expensive 768mb of RDRAM and run well on most maps - laggy on the usual suspects but not unplayable.

Regardless of how much ram you have you also need as clean a system as you can get, without all those 'helpfull' background processes that boot at startup. It not only helps speed but improves stability. Especially if you are low on RAM.
Before playing I always reboot, disable background AV (at your own risk). At this point my task manger shows 29 processes running and 198 mb Memory in use. Then start PR.
Haarek84
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Post by Haarek84 »

Outlaw289 wrote:I have a 6800GT, 3.2 ghz HT Intel processor, and 2 gigs of Kingston RAM

Al basrah lags like hell. It eventually eats up 3.2 gigs of pagefile ram and then crashes, and Windows continues to use all that pagefile until I restart.

I play @ all high settings, 4xAA, and at 1024x768@75hz (I can do 1280x960 but 1024x768 ensures a stable framerate) in regular BF2 and 2142 maps, but Al'Basra just kills my computer.

I guess putting terrain and textures on medium/low would help? I would assume terrain more than textures, as Basra is an ungodly huge map (you might as well just name this map "All of Iraq" [/exaggeration])

try to find other graphics drivers. i have almost the same system as you. but then AMD athlon 3700+, 2,5 gb ram, 6800 ultra pci-e GPU. i had a memory lack with the newest drivers from nvidia. then i removed them. took a systemregistery cleanup. then installed those drivers who followed with my BF2 dvd. yes, those drivers are old, but still they works best in my system.

To others: dont remove pagefile. i did earlier. and i did regret it 5 minutes later hehe. if you have for example 2 gigs of ram. you can have 1/1 with pagefile mem like ram. if you have 2 gigs of ram. set pagefile size to 2 gb. and be sure to have start size, and max size the same size. so windows doesent have to work with that too when you are playing.
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Post by Smitty4212 »

I have 1GB, and a GeForce 6800 (128MB, I believe).

Al Basrah runs perfectly fine for me. I -NEVER- have FPS issues. I do run most everything in low, except for view distance which is at 100%, and I run without any slowdowns regardless of the circumstances. I'd rather the game look so-so and play amazingly, than have the game run so-so and look amazing. If you have a better system than that (my HDD is fairly old, too), and you're having FPS problems, you really have no right to complain if you're running everything in high with 4x AA, etc. Oh, every other mod and map runs fine? Cool bro, well I'll be having fun killing you on Al Basrah because I don't care that there's jaggies on my screen as long as I have 60 FPS.

Guess maybe that's just me, though.
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Post by Dylan »

A-10WarthogPilot wrote:i have 4 gigs of ram a 2T hard drive quadcore processor oh yea and DUAL nvidia geforce 8800s YEAH BABY
Even though I don't really believe you. (even if you aren't lying i don't care) But if you have 4 gigs of RAM, you DO realize that you are only getting the performance of 2 gigs unless you use 64bit XP or vista, AND you have programs written to support 4 gigs of RAM. I believe that quadcore processors arent fully supportive of most games we have now, but I may be wrong. If not, you will most likely see a huge boost in running multiple programs anyways.

I have an Geforce 8800GTS 640MB GDDR3, and 2 gigs of RAM, and I run AlBasrah on average 80+FPS without action, and 50+ with action. I can image what lower end system encounter, and its not pretty. Even with EVERY top of the line part (which I pretty much have currently) I dont do as great as on some other maps with almost constant 65+ FPS... Dont get me wrong, it IS my favorite map, but there is that fact that not everyone has the ability to run it properly.
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Post by ::Major_Baker:: »

2 gigs ram makes all the difference!
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