Low Graphic Settings = Advantage

Smash-Crunch · Post by **Smash-Crunch** » 2007-02-19 00:24

My computer isn't the greatest. I prefer performance over quality, so a bunch of my settings are at the lowest.

This provides me with an advantage over other players. Bushes don't render at long ranges, but your body does.

Shadows don't appear in some places, so you think you're hidden. You're not.

This has probably been discussed before, but I want to see current opinions on this.

Also, the MR-444 pistol ironsights are VERY off-centre. On my screen, the iron sights are 2 centimetres below the centre of the screen.

EPatrick · Post by **EPatrick** » 2007-02-19 00:38

medium 4 life!

dunkellic · Post by **dunkellic** » 2007-02-19 00:42

Smash-Crunch wrote:My computer isn't the greatest. I prefer performance over quality, so a bunch of my settings are at the lowest.

This provides me with an advantage over other players. Bushes don't render at long ranges, but your body does.

Shadows don't appear in some places, so you think you're hidden. You're not.

This has probably been discussed before, but I want to see current opinions on this.

Also, the MR-444 pistol ironsights are VERY off-centre. On my screen, the iron sights are 2 centimetres below the centre of the screen.

it has it´s advantages and disadvantages (no shadows=disadvantage)
but having played on a high-end machine (not mine, mines actually really bad) i´ve got to say, it´s just more fun with good looking graphics^^

Smash-Crunch · Post by **Smash-Crunch** » 2007-02-19 00:53

Other players have shadows. By no shadows I mean, when I walk up a flight of stairs, and turn to face inside a building, everything is all-bright. While for someone with higher settings would see half of the room in shadow.

bigbossmatt · Post by **bigbossmatt** » 2007-02-19 00:53

Yes I would agree that you have the advantage in most ways other than having shadows on. Last night I secured a flag and was about to leave the area for the ext flag, when I saw a shadow on the top floor of the construction site, which looks Chinese (I was American), so I went up there and killed him.

So my advice, is put on shadows to full if this is posibl for you.

Animalmother · Post by **Animalmother** » 2007-02-19 01:47

Well the point of .5 was to get rid of anyone who would play to kill anyway.

Smash-Crunch · Post by **Smash-Crunch** » 2007-02-19 02:17

Project Reality IS about killing.

You have squads to kill more effectively, requesting kits to balance the killing, new vehicles to kill with, new weapons to kill with. Killing wins the game.

Killing is fun.

Anyways, if you read my posts, you would know that I SEE shadows of other players, shadows of BUILDINGS aren't there, so I can SEE player when they think they are hidden in the shadow of buildings.

Rico11b · Post by **Rico11b** » 2007-02-19 02:26

Smash-Crunch wrote:My computer isn't the greatest. I prefer performance over quality, so a bunch of my settings are at the lowest.

This provides me with an advantage over other players. Bushes don't render at long ranges, but your body does.

Shadows don't appear in some places, so you think you're hidden. You're not.

This has probably been discussed before, but I want to see current opinions on this.

Also, the MR-444 pistol ironsights are VERY off-centre. On my screen, the iron sights are 2 centimetres below the centre of the screen.

Bushes and grass don't render much beyond 70 to 90 yards away, so that's not really an advantage. Not having shadow can sometimes be a disadvantage. I've gotten kills because I could see the shadow of someone above me on a building and just tossed up a nade.

Wipeout · Post by **Wipeout** » 2007-02-19 02:27

Instead of killing we should go sprinkle each other in flowers, and.. whoa no gay ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Anyways to the topic.. I ain't got that great of a system either, and run straight lows.. Except for Terrain and Texture's, which are on medium. I think having them on low gives me an advantage as a sniper, because I know where exactly I can hide, and whether or not the enemy can see me. Over the time I've learned what disappears and at what range and on what performance settings. You say unfair advantage? I say your loss not mine. It's EA's kind way of saying oo you get to look at the perty graphics, but you don't get to see the guys hiding inside of them.. But you get to look at ugly grass and surroundings but you can see people and kill people..

Post by **RikiRude** » 2007-02-19 02:52

I have played on all low and on all high. and I don't care about stuff not rendering and bright rooms, the game just looks so damn good on high settings and if that puts me at a little disadantage then so be it.

Plus I think most people use the low settings thing as an excuse for not being the best player

"He killed me because he has a shitty card! =("

ArmedDrunk&Angry · Post by **ArmedDrunk&Angry** » 2007-02-19 03:03

I die because I have a sh*tty 128m card.
I remember people saying that about the jungle map in .32 and dropped my settings and saw no advantage.
Since .4 I am also all low except textures and texture filtering and shadows( all med ) and I don't think it provides that much advantage, and compared with the lag I get because of the card and the 1G of RAM it's no advantage to have a low performing GPU.

vanity · Post by **vanity** » 2007-02-19 04:06

I will play with graphics maxed out jsut b/c I like them more, even if a disadvantage. It's one of the major reasons I quit 2142 for BF2, the environments and characters are so much better. Total eye candy.

Zrix · Post by **Zrix** » 2007-02-19 12:02

Some settings gives quite an advantage, like lightning;

Low

High

Here is good guide that goes through all the different settings from a competetive view.

Post by **bosco_** » 2007-02-19 12:12

I make up the disadvantage I have with my High settings with my aiming

TheCaptn · Post by **TheCaptn** » 2007-02-19 12:15

My system sucks so I have to play on Low settings now just to get by. I play vBF2 on Medium, but PR seems to demand a lot more from my hardware.

The one thing I won't concede is my 2xAA... I just can't play with the jaggies. At all.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 2007-02-19 12:30

i play at 10X12 with every thing on high apart from the AA and dynamic light which are off, i get hell of a boost and no noticable difference between them on or off

Biggaayal · Post by **Biggaayal** » 2007-02-19 12:44

First off the low settings (I also play on) indeed offer advantages and almost equal disadvantages.

Shadows can be both advantage and disadvantage.
Effect on low mean you will not see your tank shell land if you shoot far. A huge disadvantage.
Then lower settings= worse pc's= more lag often because your pc is struggling.

In my experience, on any fps, I get more kills on a high end machine then on a low end.

One problem I had on PR 0.5, which is the reason I am replying here, is the sound of the chopper revving up.

To my dismay, the reason I found it hard to know when the chopper was revved up, was that there is not a sound added on low sound quality that lets you hear the engine sounds change. so there is NO WAY that anyone with low sound settings can know when to take off. Not only is it an unfair disadvantage, but is very irritating.
This forced my to turn up yet another setting, getting me down to 20-30 fps on average.

Wouldn't think that is so hard to fix *crosses fingers*.

Aljen · Post by **Aljen** » 2007-02-19 12:57

If I should choose between some advantage with ugly textures and beautiful graphic (which really enhances atmosphere of any game) I choose the graphic.

I am on all high settings.

jedermann · Post by **jedermann** » 2007-02-19 13:00

There is a difference between static and dynamic shadows. Turning off the static shadow map cast by buildings and trees, which is prerendered at map creation, is a clear advantage. Leaving the the dynamic shadows cast by players on is also an advantage. Don't know if it is two different options in the menu, but i guess it is. Disabling the shadow map is not an option for me, because the game looks like **** then.

I would say marking the center of your screen and shooting from the hip is also an advantage.

Poi_Medic · Post by **Poi_Medic** » 2007-02-19 13:13

I play with all settings on High. Dynamic lighting and shadows are at high as well. With X2 Anti-Aliasing. Its prety easy to pick off targets from a range and identify them and it looks wonderfull to look at

Like Mao Valley for instance, you cant really tell who is beyond the distance woods because the textures all blend together so easily. Wish there was a way to push back the fog of war even further. So yes, it is a great advantage to have a high end computer that wont lag you up in heavy firefights.

My Specs:
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Processor S939 Venice 2.4GHZ
ATI Radeon X1800XT 625MHZ 512MB 750MHZ 256BIT GDDR3
OCZ Performance PC3200 2GB 2X1GB

note: when i used to play vBF2, i had the highest settings turned up in the game "Ultra_High". You just edit your BF2 profiles to have a value of 4 rather than 3 for all the settings. When dice released the new recent patch, i wasnt able to go to it anymore.