Anti-Material Rifle

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Lothrian
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Post by Lothrian »

Yup, thats the only way to tel the apart, look at the passenger and back seats for C4 - which is handy for US troops as well, so you dont waste ammo on C4 cars instead of spawn cars.
arthuro12
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Post by arthuro12 »

{XG} non_compliance wrote:CS 1.6 is one of the most fun games as far as playability... too bad it's filled with major 12 year olds


The anti-material rifle should beable to penetrate light armor.... that would be sweet if you could use incendiary (sp) rounds.... see an APC rolling by with 6 guys inside... BOOM!!!! 6 kills and the APC sits there where no one can get it. :)

im 14.. u hate me too? :(

be glad i play as a team and that i have some good suggestions while playing
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dislexiclawyer
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Post by dislexiclawyer »

I think you guys are forgetting the fact that the .50 cal can shoot through Humvee glass and aircraft glass. Unless the Devs have changed its characteristics.....which would be very unrealistic :razz: But anyway to those of you who say it is useless, if the insurgents were to get their hands on this rife, in the hands of a good sniper the USMC could be toast. You could take out the lead driver of a Humvee convoy, therfore stopping it for a well placed rocket or IED attack. If a Cobra sits still for long enough you could shoot out the pilot, or mabye just get rid of the pesky gunner. You could probablly even get 7 kills if you drop a Blackhawk pilot getting ready to land. You can also engage long range enemys, and the rilfe does significant damage to vehicles, like someone said 5 shots to take out a car. I bet every now and then you could get a shot at an A10. So in the hand sof someone who knows what they are doing it can be devistating. Oh I almost forgot, 1 shot will destroy explosive barrels, so don't stand by them :D
Sneak Attack
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Post by Sneak Attack »

first off
material
the substance or substances of which a thing is made or composed: Stone is a durable material.
anything that serves as crude or raw matter to be used or developed: Wood pulp is the raw material from which paper is made.
any constituent element.

now having it in such big letters makes you look like a moron

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn55-e.htm
woudlnt really be realistic, but it would be pretty bad *** if it was put in (i think its in POE 2 right now).

the M95 has alot of advantages over normal m2, its a little thing called movement. you can take a shot with the M95 and just get up and move, with a M2 you have to go through all kinds of shenanigans and it weighs a ton so you couldnt move far
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Post by Rusty_FunP »

M82 and other .50 cal rifles were available before the RAUFOSS .50 cal special ammunition for them.

I think the most used ammunition for them is still .50BMG ball and S.L.A.P. (saboted, light armorpiercing) rounds, which are available for M2 machinegun as well.
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Wasteland
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Post by Wasteland »

Sneak Attack wrote:first off
material
the substance or substances of which a thing is made or composed: Stone is a durable material.
anything that serves as crude or raw matter to be used or developed: Wood pulp is the raw material from which paper is made.
any constituent element.

now having it in such big letters makes you look like a moron

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn55-e.htm
Hahahahaha. From the link that YOU posted:
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Smitty4212
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Post by Smitty4212 »

The .50 is not banned for use against infantry, whether shooting at their face or their belt.
The language in these manuals are essentially identical to language in the Hague Convention IV, Art. 23(e), the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea, and the First Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions, Art. 35. In particular, Army FM 27-10, Chapter 2, Section 3 and the Navy’s NWP 1-14M Ch.9.1.1. In fact, NWP 1-14M 9.1.1 specifically states that “Use of .50 caliber weapons against individual enemy combatants does not constitute a violation of this proscription against unnecessary suffering or superfluous injury.” There’s also a June 2000 “Law of War Workshop Deskbook” (pdf) that discusses “Sniper rifles, .50 caliber machine guns, and shotguns”, stating:

“Much mythology exists about the lawfulness of these weapon systems. Bottom line: they are lawful weapons, although rules of engagement (policy and tactics) may limit their use.”

And this is not only the US. For example, according to this informative post at No Cameras, Chapter 16 Section 4c of the Dutch army manual VS 2-1351 (field manual for officers and NCOs), .50 caliber weaponry is lawful for use against “troops on foot, both in cover and in the open”.

The common misconception is that these regulations exist to prohibit weapons that “cause too much damage,” and draws the retort that if you kill a man, he is dead, so what does it matter how you kill him? The thing is, these regulations do not concern killing, they concern injury.

In September 1918, Germany lodged a protest with the United States regarding the use of Winchester model 97 pump-action shotguns, loaded with No. 00 buckshot, by American troops. In the American response, Brigadier General Samuel T. Ansell, Acting Judge Advocate General, argued that:

[The use of a weapon] is to be condemned only when it wounds, or does not kill immediately, in such a way as to produce suffering that has no reasonable relation to the killing or placing a man out of action for an effective period.

Ansell had it exactly right; the underlying notion behind the regulation of permissible battlefield weapons, in particular that class of weapons known as “infantry weapons”, was they should kill outright, or failing that inflict a wound which one might reasonably expect a military hospital to be able to deal with and from which the victim might be expected to recover. Dum-dum bullets, for example, clearly fail this test; they fragment in unpredictable ways, making it impossible for a military surgeon to remove all of the bullet. Edged weapons (bayonets or lances) with jagged edges or barbs would leave a wound which would heal only with great difficulty, and more medical attention than a soldier might reasonably be expected to receive. In both cases, if the weapon failed to kill outright, the victim would probably be condemned to a slow and agonising death. Hence, “unnecessary suffering,” or to quote the tranlsation which more closely reflects the original French “superfluous injury.”
It's downright silly to assume that civilized nations around the world are and have been deliberately disregarding the relevant Hague conventions by using .50s for conflicts across the world.
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