Cobra

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Pak
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Cobra

Post by Pak »

The cobra is way out of balance with the other two attack helos right now. I like the realism with only having 14 rockets, but it is not balanced with the other two choppers. The MEC and chinese attack helos can reload their rockets and hold far many more. I'm not sure if the cobras rockets are stronger or something, but if they are, it is only a slight difference. It still takes 7 or so direct hits to take down another helo, when it should only take 2 or 3.
TerribleOne
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Post by TerribleOne »

i havent flown the other helis in pr yet other then the cobra but i do know the control of the cobra is way out now. allthough the speed and missile damage is more accurate. in bf2 the missiles had no more splash damage then a bullet.
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Pak
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Post by Pak »

But the cobra only has 14 rockets and cannot reload, but the other helos can carry several loads.
TerribleOne
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Post by TerribleOne »

im thinking they mabe forgot to adjust the other two? mabe a slight slip up on there behalf?? wel have to wait a response and see what the deal is.
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joemoemino
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Post by joemoemino »

Cant the Cobra take like 38 FFARs and 8 TOWs?
BrokenArrow
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Post by BrokenArrow »

maybe on paper it can, i would like to see one take that many hits IRL and stay up
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Eddie Baker
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Post by Eddie Baker »

BrokenArrow wrote:maybe on paper it can, i would like to see one take that many hits IRL and stay up
He means as ordnance, BrokenArrow.

I have seen the AH-1W with 38 Hydra and 8 TOW or Hellfire, but not sure if it's a standard fitting. Those stub wings were pertty short and it looked almost like the Hydra pods were touching the TOW. I think one of the TOW missiles on each side may have been removed to accommodate them.

The AH-1Z Cobra (which is the model allegedly in-game, but the model is a bastardization of AH-1W and AH-1Z characteristics) has a larger wingspan and con accomodate that load more easily.

Remember, also, that how much a helicopter can carry depends on weather conditions.
BrokenArrow
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Post by BrokenArrow »

thats what i get for only reading the most recent post.
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StormRavn
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Post by StormRavn »

umm the cobra can reload just land back on the helo pad and you re arm
TerribleOne
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Post by TerribleOne »

^^^^...

I think people call that an inconvienience ingame since if your over one side of the map and fire 8 missiles or whatever it is then you must return to reload it gets to be a pain.
Id just like to see the secondary guns/cannons be as powerfull as they are in the vids ive seen on the net.
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Djuice
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Post by Djuice »

Cobra, who uses the Cobra, Mi-24N HAVOC for me, 16 Ataka-V VIKhR 9M120 ATGMs, 40 80mm S-8 FFARs and 30mm 2A42 autocannon.


Pure power!!
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Pak
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Post by Pak »

StormRavn wrote:umm the cobra can reload just land back on the helo pad and you re arm
Yeah, but the chinese helo can reload mid-flight. Which means if I fire all my rockets in a dogfight and don't take him down, he can chase me down while I go to re-arm.
Super6
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Post by Super6 »

why don't they slap a better engine on the cobra and apache and then put one more missle mount on the side of each wing, would cool IRL, the more firepower the better
StormRavn
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Post by StormRavn »

they just need to ditch the cobra all together give us the apache ah64 longbow

Mission
Conducts rear, close, and shaping missions including deep precision strike. Conducts distributed operations, precision strikes against relocatable targets, and provides armed reconnaissance when required in day, night, obscured battlefield and adverse weather conditions.

Entered Army Service
AH-64 (1984); AH-64D (199 8)

Description and Specifications
The AH-64 Apache is The Army's heavy division/corps attack helicopter. The AH-64D Longbow remanufacture effort incorporates a millimeter wave fire control radar (FCR), radar frequency interferometer (RFI), fire-and-forget radar-guided HELLFIRE missile and cockpit management and digitization enhancements. The combination of the FCR, RFI, and the advanced navigation and avionics suite of the aircraft provide increased situational awareness, lethality and survivability.
Combat mission speed: 167 mph
Combat range: 300 miles
Combat endurance: 2.5 hours
Length: 49 ft 5 in
Mission weight: 16,600 lbs
Armament: HELLFIRE missiles, 2.75" rockets and 30mm chain gun
Crew: 2 (pilot and co-pilot gunner)









Manufacturer
Airframe - Boeing (Mesa, AZ); Fire Control Radar - Northrup Grummen (Linthicum, MD); Lockheed Martin (Owego, NY); MTADS/PNVS - Lockheed Martin (Orlando, FL); Boeing (Mesa, AZ)


this is the chopper we need damm the cobra its **** compared to this
Super62
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Post by Super62 »

StormRavn wrote:they just need to ditch the cobra all together give us the apache ah64 longbow

Mission
Conducts rear, close, and shaping missions including deep precision strike. Conducts distributed operations, precision strikes against relocatable targets, and provides armed reconnaissance when required in day, night, obscured battlefield and adverse weather conditions.

Entered Army Service
AH-64 (1984); AH-64D (199 8)

Description and Specifications
The AH-64 Apache is The Army's heavy division/corps attack helicopter. The AH-64D Longbow remanufacture effort incorporates a millimeter wave fire control radar (FCR), radar frequency interferometer (RFI), fire-and-forget radar-guided HELLFIRE missile and cockpit management and digitization enhancements. The combination of the FCR, RFI, and the advanced navigation and avionics suite of the aircraft provide increased situational awareness, lethality and survivability.
Combat mission speed: 167 mph
Combat range: 300 miles
Combat endurance: 2.5 hours
Length: 49 ft 5 in
Mission weight: 16,600 lbs
Armament: HELLFIRE missiles, 2.75" rockets and 30mm chain gun
Crew: 2 (pilot and co-pilot gunner)









Manufacturer
Airframe - Boeing (Mesa, AZ); Fire Control Radar - Northrup Grummen (Linthicum, MD); Lockheed Martin (Owego, NY); MTADS/PNVS - Lockheed Martin (Orlando, FL); Boeing (Mesa, AZ)


this is the chopper we need damm the cobra its **** compared to this
They already have the british verison and it isn't used by the USMC.
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1036
Djuice
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Post by Djuice »

Helicopter dogfights are soo easy, if you have 2 people in them, the gunner usually kills then soo fast with the main gun.
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TerribleOne
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Post by TerribleOne »

I normally just blow up the heli with missiles :D . Anyone want a heli bout??? :twisted:
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Djuice
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Post by Djuice »

not when you pull of uber kickass, unforgettable manuerves.
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TerribleOne
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Post by TerribleOne »

8) well see.
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