Shotgun pwn A-10

Raniak · Post by **Raniak** » 2007-03-01 03:45

Smitty4212 wrote:Shotguns do fractions of a point of damage against an A10. From point blank range, shooting until you reload, you MAY do six or seven points of damage.

From anywhere past 10 meters, you're probably literally doing less than .1% of damage a shot.

I was the only one shooting at it (even made him smoke a few time, alone again) and it exploded, I doubt it exploded in the air for no reasons...

Smitty4212 · Post by **Smitty4212** » 2007-03-01 03:48

I think your eyes were deceiving you. Go into a server right now with debug mode on, and you'll see just how much damage a shotgun does to an A10.

From about 15 meters away, using slug, it did around 0.5% damage. Using buckshot, it did between 0.2-0.6% damage.

Unless the A-10 was on fire and about to explode anyways, you didn't kill it. Don't know why I'm even arguing this, it should be common sense

Hfett · Post by **Hfett** » 2007-03-01 03:57

An old man went to doctor.

The doctor asked him how he was feeling. "I've never been better," the old man replied. "I've got an eighteen-year-old bride who's pregnant & delivered a child. What is your opinion about that, Doc?" the old man asked.

The doctor thought for a moment, then said, "Well, let me tell you a story. I know a guy who is a hunter. He never misses a season for hunting. But, one day he's in a bit of a hurry and he accidentally grabs his umbrella instead of his gun. The doctor continued, "So he's walking in the woods near a creek, and suddenly he spots a lion in some brush in front of him. He raises up his umbrella, points it at the lion and squeezes the handle.

BAM! The lion drops dead in front of him."

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"Exactly"... Said the Doc.

Please dont be offended it is a j/k

Raniak · Post by **Raniak** » 2007-03-01 03:57

Smitty4212 wrote:I think your eyes were deceiving you. Go into a server right now with debug mode on, and you'll see just how much damage a shotgun does to an A10.

From about 15 meters away, using slug, it did around 0.5% damage. Using buckshot, it did between 0.2-0.6% damage.

Unless the A-10 was on fire and about to explode anyways, you didn't kill it. Don't know why I'm even arguing this, it should be common sense

I trust my eyes more than you and your logic, I saw it explode right when I pressed the button of my mouse, and saw the same thing when I made the other two planes smoke...

Anyway, it's Allah will that I destroyed this plane and made two other A-10 smoke

=dB=Vengeance · Post by **=dB=Vengeance** » 2007-03-01 04:02

why is the funny crosshair shown in the screenshot again?... Was that an attempt to be funny by pretending to cheat... Cause I dont get it. Beta pr mod testing something...??? Cause the bright pink crosshairs and stuff looks like pb screens of banned cheats.

eddie · Post by **eddie** » 2007-03-01 04:08

'[R-MOD wrote:eddie']The sights have not yet been modelled for the shotgun.

Quoting myself. The cross hairs are there until we can get some working sights modelled and working for the game.

Raniak · Post by **Raniak** » 2007-03-01 04:10

=dB=Vengeance wrote:why is the funny crosshair shown in the screenshot again?... Was that an attempt to be funny by pretending to cheat... Cause I dont get it. Beta pr mod testing something...??? Cause the bright pink crosshairs and stuff looks like pb screens of banned cheats.

lawl, my crosshair is pink because you can see pink against bright blue, white and black...

Oh and I just tested it and I destroyed an A-10, it take a lot of time but I destroyed it so the pilot seeing that it was only shotgun fire didn't repaired his plane, and after 60 shots I destroyed it, the end
got screenshots of my test if you don't trust me

oddANGRYshot · Post by **oddANGRYshot** » 2007-03-01 04:13

Raniak wrote:I trust my eyes more than you and your logic, I saw it explode right when I pressed the button of my mouse, and saw the same thing when I made the other two planes smoke...

Anyway, it's Allah will that I destroyed this plane and made two other A-10 smoke

I was playing PR the other night and we were being buzzed by a little bird, so me and my mate both took a couple of pot shots at him.. well you wouldnt believe it but the little bird starts spinning in the air and slowly drops to the ground. But when I got there the pilot was gone???? The little bird was empty....
But I trust my eyes...we sniped the pilot.
Aliens? Spontanious Combustion? Imploded? Hid himself in the glove box?
Or maybe disconnected from the server..... I wouldnt trust anything in MP world....looks are deceiving.

[PR]AC3421 · Post by **[PR]AC3421** » 2007-03-01 04:15

I havnt read this entire thread, only first few posts, but I can see all the "yeah right thats bs" posts. Just to let you know I was on DevFile when this happened. I was not talking to the guy or in a squad with ihm, but I did see it happen. He is not lying.

oddANGRYshot · Post by **oddANGRYshot** » 2007-03-01 04:19

'[PR wrote:AC3421']I havnt read this entire thread, only first few posts, but I can see all the "yeah right thats bs" posts. Just to let you know I was on DevFile when this happened. I was not talking to the guy or in a squad with ihm, but I did see it happen. He is not lying.

I dont think anyone is thinking "He is so full of shit his eyes are brown", what they are trying to say is, yes he believes he shot the A10 down... but couldnt someone else at that exact moment also be shooting at the exact same A10 with something more powerful than a shotty?

[PR]AC3421 · Post by **[PR]AC3421** » 2007-03-01 04:39

Yeah, thats possible, but I did see his kills go up, his name was right under mine before it happened, then he was above me after. I killed a Cobra and an A-10 with a PKM yesterday. The cobra was dmg from 2 RPG hits on its tail rotor and it was pretty low and steady so I unloaded on it with my PKM and about 30 sec later after it flew off trying to reach the airport it blew up and gave me 2 kills. Then sam thing with an A-10, it was damaged and flying low and slow over me so I unloaded with the PKM on it and boom, got another kill.

Raniak · Post by **Raniak** » 2007-03-01 04:46

Did I forgot to say that I spent the first half of the round shooting at flying things with my shotgun ?
Even if I only did 5% of damage each 5 shots, I had unlimited ammo and I spent a lot of times shooting at it, I tried it on a Local Server and it worked again... The guy noticed I was shooting him with a shotgun and shotguns do very little damage to planes so he didn't repaired his plane, but over time (5%x20=100%) I destroyed him before he noticed it...

oh... and I spent the other half of the round shooting at things flying with my RPG this time

Smitty4212 · Post by **Smitty4212** » 2007-03-01 05:56

Raniak wrote:Did I forgot to say that I spent the first half of the round shooting at flying things with my shotgun ?
Even if I only did 5% of damage each 5 shots, I had unlimited ammo and I spent a lot of times shooting at it, I tried it on a Local Server and it worked again... The guy noticed I was shooting him with a shotgun and shotguns do very little damage to planes so he didn't repaired his plane, but over time (5%x20=100%) I destroyed him before he noticed it...

oh... and I spent the other half of the round shooting at things flying with my RPG this time

I was in the server too, on the ground in a squad on USMC. I didn't see the plane explode, just saw you ranting about how you brought down an A10 with a shotgun.

While I don't doubt that you were shooting at aircraft the whole round, I do doubt that the A10 not ONCE repaired, and got all the way down to 1% damage before you blew him up with one shot. Because that is essentially what you are saying.

I'm sorry but there IS no way you destroyed him unless he was about to blow up anyways, and from the sound of it, he wasn't. He'd be seriously on flames, and and his alarms would be going crazy. Even if you were shooting him the whole round and he never repaired, it would get to the point where he would be on fire, and eventually blow up, and it would be well before a shotgun could do anything.

Just think about it. 1% damage per shot (it doesn't even DO 1% damage a shot, if usually does about POINT 5 percent damage. That's 0.5%, not 1%). If you hit him 100 times with a shotgun, which would take a damn long time, he would eventually have run out of ammo and go for more, in which case by even flying over the runway for 2 seconds, he'd be repaired enough from any damage a shotgun would do anyways.

Sorry but you didn't shoot him down

You may've done the last damage to him, even if it was a fraction of a percentage point of damage, in which case it WOULD'VE given you the credit for a kill I believe, but unless you shoot magic bullets that do 1000% more damage than mine do, you didn't.

My guess is that either a tank shell hit him (in which case I don't believe you would see it), which happens often especially with A10s that fly low and slow, or AA hit him and you just didn't see it.

EagleEyeLG · Post by **EagleEyeLG** » 2007-03-01 06:32

Smitty... you seem to be to only one out of this whole bunch disagreeing...

Post by **RikiRude** » 2007-03-01 06:36

Wow 90% of these posts are dumb. Why is it so impossible? It's rare, but it's not impossible. This is all that has to happen for that, A-10 takes off does bombing runs, he shoots at it with a shotgun, A-10 takes damage from AA gun, bringing it to 80% health, then it takes a stinger to the rear, bringing it to 30% he shoots some more shotty rounds into it. Finally an RPG hits it, in the back, bringing it to .5 or 1% health and as its smoking on its way to crash and burn he puts 3 or 4 more rounds into the A-10 getting the kill since he put the finishing rounds into it.

[PR]AC3421 · Post by **[PR]AC3421** » 2007-03-01 08:38

'[R-DEV wrote:Riki_Rude_BTYC']Wow 90% of these posts are dumb. Why is it so impossible? It's rare, but it's not impossible. This is all that has to happen for that, A-10 takes off does bombing runs, he shoots at it with a shotgun, A-10 takes damage from AA gun, bringing it to 80% health, then it takes a stinger to the rear, bringing it to 30% he shoots some more shotty rounds into it. Finally an RPG hits it, in the back, bringing it to .5 or 1% health and as its smoking on its way to crash and burn he puts 3 or 4 more rounds into the A-10 getting the kill since he put the finishing rounds into it.

My last post said that exact thing about how I killed the cobra and A-10 with my PKM and I said that thats probably what the original poster did.

Lothrian · Post by **Lothrian** » 2007-03-01 12:01

^
PKMs dont need help ... they tear through metal like an AA gun on heat. PKM vs BH or ungunned Cobra = PKM winning everytime. They wont retreat normally because they think they are immune to HMG fire.
Its like the USMC support, spawn cars and jihad cars wont run from you, then boom, they explode from just HMG fire.

Shotgun vs A10, possile ... since its unlikely, its awesome!!
Insurgents: 1
'Mine' Squad: 0

WNxKenwayy · Post by **WNxKenwayy** » 2007-03-01 13:32

BF2 kill system works simply by who got the last shot on the vehicle/person. So if I shoot a tank with a pistol and it happens to blow up then, poof I get the kill. If you shoot a blackhawk with 1 ak round and the blackhawk crashes into the ground, you get the kill.

You didn't 'kill' the a10 with a shotgun. he was 'bleeding' out from damage taken by something else and you just happened to be the last person to hit it with anything before it self-destructed.

Major._Spork · Post by **Major._Spork** » 2007-03-01 13:37

In real life... shottys [of any kind] are GREAT!!! i mean.. i go out and shoot clay birds all the time... i hit one at probbly 100m away... and it was bursted into a ton of pieces... not saying that it will be the same for BF2 [because bf2's is only good in close quarters..] but PR may have made it more realistic [its stupid to say that as i know its more realistic] but i mean... come on, give him a break i have shot down a little bird with a shotgun [and trust me.. i was the only one in the area, SOUTH VCP when the rest of our men were at North VCP & Village] it took like 30 shots.. but it went down...

MrD · Post by **MrD** » 2007-03-01 14:53

I remember when you could waste any vehicle coming at you with the autoloading, fast firing shotgun. It was a beast! So I could actually half believe this buy not willing to say anything being the obedient engineer most appropriately armed with a shottie!

Shotgun pwn A-10

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